By on December 7, 2018

The self-driving Chrysler Pacifica vans operated by Alphabet-owned Waymo didn’t know they were under surveillance, but indeed they were. Reporters from the Arizona Republic were on their tail, watching as the autonomous vans — safety driver behind the wheel — tooled around the streets of the Phoenix, Arizona metro area for a period in October. In total, the rolling stakeout covered 170 miles of sun-drenched roadway.

Earlier this week, Waymo announced it had become the first company to offer a commercial ride-hailing service (“Waymo One”) using autonomous vehicles, even though there’s still a live human being behind the wheel. That employee’s job is to monitor the vehicle and take over if needed, as self-driving tech is still in its early days. There’s bugs to be worked out.

What the newspaper’s surveillance showed was that vehicles operating “by the book” — ie, with a strict adherence to the rules of the road and an abundance of caution — sometimes don’t mix well with humans. Go figure.

We knew this already. Last summer, a Waymo Pacifica was filmed attempting to merge onto a Phoenix-area freeway, to no avail. The cushion of safety built into the self-driving vehicle’s actions sometimes means a maneuver you or I would accomplish with ease (or maybe with a little bit of forcing, in the case of merging) proves impossible within the parameters dictated by the vehicle’s computer overlords.

One interesting interaction observed by the Arizona Republic crew came as multiple lanes of traffic were slowed approaching the site of a serious car crash. A police officer was routing everyone around the accident site.

“The self-driving Waymo awkwardly, slowly, rolled towards the scene, even as dozens of other vehicles merged into the turn lanes far sooner,” the paper wrote. “A human driver in this situation might try to make eye contact with the drivers already in the crowded turn lane, or even wave, to try to cut in.”

After some hesitation and a failed attempt, the Waymo van finally got in line.

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Lane changes apparently give the vans the most trouble, and merging falls into this category. The Republic noted numerous instances of failed lane changes after the vans chickened out of a maneuver they had already initiated. Sometimes, just the turn signal comes on, then shuts off, with no changing of lanes. This can happen multiple times before the lane change is accomplished. These vans like their buffer zone; the lane change will not occur until the vehicle is damn sure it won’t come into close proximity of another vehicle.

One lane change took a minute and 23 seconds to pull off in moderate, flowing traffic, the publication stated. This repeated, half-hearted attempt to change lanes “appeared to confuse [other] drivers.”

An Early Rider participant, Reid Beer (solid name, by the way), said his van sometimes missed an exit on the highway “because it was being too cautious.”

While missed exits and longer trips are an annoyance for customers, the alternative would be to take on additional risk. Imagine the bad PR resulting from news stories about the brash self-driving van that caused a pile-up on the freeway or bashed another vehicle out of its lane. There’s trade-offs to erring on the side of caution, and Uber aptly demonstrates the other side of the coin.

Waymo officials say they’ve spent months working on making the vehicles more “assertive,” hoping to cut down on the number of instances where a vehicle fails to merge.

Continuing on the topic of safety, the Republic reporters did witness moments when Waymo’s caution spared the vans from disaster. One incident took place at an intersection a Waymo van was about to cross. The Waymo faced a green light, but a Honda Element approaching from the right apparently hadn’t noticed their light turn red. The van stopped short of the intersection while the Element skidded to a stop in the center of the intersection. In another incident, a Waymo van entering a freeway aborted a merge to avoid an aggressive driver attempting to pass.

Does the credit for these interventions go to robots or humans? Waymo won’t say who or what tapped the brakes or grabbed the wheel in those incidents.

The specially selected members of Waymo’s Early Rider program, which offered up free rides earlier this year, won’t be travelling far afield via Waymo One. The vans operate in a specific area that’s been extensively mapped (“geofenced”), comprising areas of Chandler, Mesa, Tempe, and Gilbert, Arizona — though the company says this area will expand over time. Eventually, new paying riders will be able to sign up and the Pacificas will start shedding their safety drivers.

While Waymo succeeded in being the first company to tap a potentially lucrative market, it desperately wants to avoid the kind of black eyes suffered by rival Uber. As such, it’s starting small.

[Image: Waymo]

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12 Comments on “Work in Progress: Waymo Van Stakeout Reveals the Challenges of Self-driving Tech...”


  • avatar
    MBella

    Just I if these things were allowed to drive in New Jersey. Jersey drivers would eliminate these from the roads very quickly. In Jersey you are expected to do your part to keep traffic flowing, and these don’t do that.

  • avatar

    An accident waiting to happen.
    https://medium.com/@sevehicle/three-solid-reasons-why-tncs-uber-waymo-are-on-the-wrong-track-4f6860c1e83a
    I concur.

  • avatar
    R Henry

    Not in my lifetime.

  • avatar
    Guythall

    Voyager, I agree with the points made in the article, but not with the overall title’s assertion. Correct that the minivan will not be the ultimate Autonomous vehicle. Actually I don’t think there will be a single model that will be the ultimate autonomous vehicle. There will be a variety of models to choose from that will fit the needs of any one trip. Furthermore, criticizing Waymo’s can (which by the way ignores the 60,000(?) sedans on order), is like criticizing a baby because it’s crawling than the more efficient walking.

  • avatar
    Guythall

    FYI – the article I was referring to is the one linked in voyager’s comment.

  • avatar
    NoID

    They made a good point about how human interaction from behind the wheel (Making eye contact during a merge attempt) is sometimes crucial for navigating the surprisingly social landscape of our motorways. How do you replicate that without a driver?

    Also, I think we can all agree that overly cautious drivers cause a not insignificant portion of accidents. That’s exactly what we have here, overly cautious autonomous vehicles acting in a manner that is inconsistent with piloted vehicles.

    I can’t imagine how one of these things would handle a city street in a developing nation. It would probably just sit in one place and shudder until traffic cleared at midnight.

    • 0 avatar
      JMII

      The incident with the police at an accident scene is where these system will fail badly. Many times you encounter situations on the road where communication between you (as a driver) requires eye contact with someone who is not in another car, like a jogger, biker, kid on a skateboard, etc. I doubt the cameras and AI understand things like being waved to. There is a big difference between a “hey watch out” wave and “yeah come on thru” wave. As a pedestrian how you would react to oncoming driverless vehicle?

      The image in the article above showing the van splashing thru a puddle is another area of concern. Your typical driver would slow down and attempt to drive around or at least avoid the deepest spot. What is the auto-bot going to do? Plow thru at full speed? Stay in its assigned lane? Immediately stop and sit still? Would it notice a nearby person and slow down to avoid splashing them?

      Too many decisions in urban / city traffic I think. Highway driving seems more predictable. Ironically the faster the speed the more space everyone leaves which works to the advantage of the AI’s safety first approach. On the flip side, for example, take the dreaded airport run. Pulling up to the curb at the terminal is an exercise in aggressive but painfully slowly calculations with an overwhelming number of targets in a very tight space. Yeah, good luck with that auto-car.

  • avatar
    jatz

    “Sometimes, just the turn signal comes on, then shuts off, with no changing of lanes.”

    White-Hair in a Buick gambit.

  • avatar
    sco

    This mirrors my experience with two Waymo test vehicles in San Francisco a few months back. They seem to be very sensitive to the space around them to the extent that if you get slightly ahead of them and slightly crowd them they will immediately slow down and create a large space for you to merge in front of them (even if you weren’t trying to merge). All I could think was that a trip across town surrounded by aggressive city drivers would take FOREVER in one of these cars.

  • avatar
    dukeisduke

    “These vans like their buffer zone; the lane change will not occur until the vehicle is damn sure it won’t come into close proximity of another vehicle.”

    Lol. I’d like to see one of these going up against the SUVs and brodozers in my daily commute.

  • avatar
    Russycle

    “Does the credit for these interventions go to robots or humans? Waymo won’t say who or what tapped the brakes or grabbed the wheel in those incidents.”

    They’re testing these on public roadways, they damn sure should be telling us how well they’re performing.

  • avatar
    Jagboi

    I wonder how it would react to a policeman standing in an intersection directing traffic to go through a red light?

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