By on July 14, 2016

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A study of self-reported aggressive driving behavior finds that your neighbor, brother, wife and child are angry and violent behind the wheel. But not you.

The statistics found in the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety’s report are alarming, and, without stating it explicitly, advocate for more yoga. According to the study, almost 80 percent of U.S. drivers displayed at least one incident of “significant” aggression, anger or road rage during the past year.

The study was conducted in 2014, and surveyed 2,705 drivers aged 16 or older who had driven in the past month. Results are broken down into both percentages and actual numbers, just to give us a good sense of how many angry drivers are actually out there.

Tailgating another vehicle on purpose (that’ll show ’em!) was the most popular way to express roadway disagreement, with 51 percent of drivers (104 million people) admitting to at least one instance. 47 percent of us yelled at another driver, while 45 percent of drivers let their horn do the talking. Angry gestures, including the time-honored flipping of the bird, came in at 33 percent of drivers, or 67 million drivers people.

“Inconsiderate driving, bad traffic and the daily stresses of life can transform minor frustrations into dangerous road rage,” said Jurek Grabowski, the foundation’s director of research, in a statement. “Far too many drivers are losing themselves in the heat of the moment and lashing out in ways that could turn deadly.”

Yelling and extending the middle digit on your free hand is a commonplace thing and doesn’t often strike fear into other drivers’ hearts, but dangerous vehicle maneuvers boost the aggression — and danger.

The study found that 24 percent of respondents tried to block a vehicle from changing lanes, 12 percent cut off a vehicle on purpose, four percent got out of a vehicle to confront another driver (which always ends well), and three percent actually bumped or rammed another vehicle on purpose. If the sample is representative of the entire country’s habits, that means 5.7 million drivers use their vehicle as a ram each year.

Men and people under 40 get a bad rap in the study, with statistics showing increased levels of aggressive driving behavior, but so do the enlightened denizens of America’s Northeast. Drivers in that section of the country were “significantly more likely” to make other drivers aware of their feelings.

Maybe this autonomous vehicle stuff isn’t as nerdy and pointless as some people think.

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150 Comments on “America is the Land of the Free (and the Aggressive, Road-Raging Driver): Study...”


  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    And thanks to a relatively recent misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment by the Supreme Court how many of them have a firearm in the vehicle?

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      Presumably only those part of a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        almost 80 percent of U.S. drivers displayed at least one incident of “significant” aggression, anger or road rage during the past year.

        ““significant” aggression”

        Before or after a Trump rally?

        I need my gun to protect myself from all of those significantly aggressive people out there.

        “A study of self-reported aggressive driving behavior finds that your neighbor, brother, wife and child are angry and violent behind the wheel. But not you.”

        The “But not you” posts will come rather quickly.

        Time to fire up the popcorn maker.

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          I read today that water guns are banned from the Republican convention, but firearms are welcomed.

          • 0 avatar
            SCE to AUX

            So inconsistent, since both could contain lead.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            SCE to AUX – it is now illegal to use lead shot since it is hard on the environment.

            Go figure.

          • 0 avatar
            GeneralMalaise

            And Cleveland has had to ban concealed carry of plastic bags of urine and feces due to the expected invasion of Democrat miscreants and ne’er-do-wells.

      • 0 avatar
        DukeGanote

        A usual-and-customary annual event in southern California, according to the well-known documentary maker, Steve Martin.

      • 0 avatar
        2manycars

        Look up the definitions of “militia” and of “well-regulated” as those terms were used at the time of the Constitution’s adoption. (For that matter, look up the definition of the “militia” in current U.S. code.) As part of your assignment, also read what the authors of the 2nd Amendment had to say about firearm ownership and the reasons for it in the other writings they left behind.

        • 0 avatar
          golden2husky

          While I have no problem with law abiding, non terrorist, ok to fly folks from buying whatever firearms they want I have to ask this question:

          Do you think the framers of the Constitution could have possibly imagined the power and sophistication of today’s weapons? Put another way – do you think a computer engineer in 1955 could have ever thought that the computer we use to comment here could possibly be so small, powerful, and cheap? Had the founding fathers had access to a Delorean that could go 88 miles and hour and see today’s society, the second amendment would certainly be written differently…

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            They’d have banned the government from owning guns.

          • 0 avatar
            nickoo

            Rifles of today are no more advanced than what was available 100 yard ago. The culture is what has changed.

          • 0 avatar
            Frylock350

            @golden2husky,

            I think the framers of the Constitution wouldn’t have cared about the sophistication of modern weapons. The most effective way to control a people is to disarm them. That’s what they were trying to prevent. They wanted to make it illegal to disarm the population. I don’t think modern weapons changes that motivation.

        • 0 avatar
          ToddAtlasF1

          http://www.lectlaw.com/files/gun01.htm:

          As Noah Webster put it in a pamphlet urging ratification of the Constitution, “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.” George Mason remarked to his Virginia delegates regarding the colonies’ recent experience with Britain, in which the Monarch’s goal had been “to disarm the people; that [that] . . . was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” A widely reprinted article by Tench Coxe, an ally and correspondent of James Madison, described the Second Amendment’s overriding goal as a check upon the national government’s standing army: As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.

          • 0 avatar
            golden2husky

            ….Rifles of today are no more advanced than what was available 100 yard ago. The culture is what has changed…

            Seriously? Last time was shooting I guess I misplaced the ramrod.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Unlike the Christian God, the gun lobby was made, not begotten. The National Rifle Association (NRA), which today is generally considered the most powerful lobby in the United States, began as the government’s lapdog, an organization created to train men for the army.

            Shooting was good and wholesome sport, and attaining some skill at arms the duty of the middle-class male. But as violent crime rose, so did the movement for gun control, which transformed the NRA into the gun lobby we know today.

            The Newtonian relationship between gun control and the gun lobby is particularly evident in Canada, where our original equivalent to the NRA — the Dominion of Canada Rifle Association — had stuck to its original mandate and faded into obscurity after the Great War.”

            Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun

            by A.J. Somerset

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “Seriously? Last time was shooting I guess I misplaced the ramrod.”

            So you think the soldiers of WWI were firing muskets and using “ramrods” Do you have any knowledge, whatsoever of war, history, the history of technology or any basic firearms knowledge?

    • 0 avatar

      The 2nd Amendment is the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

      I have a right to defend myself.

      As sure as a scorpion has a stinger.

      Supernova 12 Gauge
      Two AR-15 rifles with pistol grips
      Kimber .45
      Springfield XD

      I deserve protection as much as any politician does.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        Wow.

        Such a popular amendment misquoted by the paranoid “80%”.

        “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

        “I deserve protection as much as any politician does.”

        Someone needs to send over some nice men in white coats to make sure you are “protected”.

        One never knows when another like minded paranoid needs to go out and shoot a bunch of strangers.

        “One never knows”
        (Incorrect since statistically it happens on a daily basis).

        • 0 avatar

          Somewhere along the line, foreigners and citizens who don’t like the constitution or respect AMERICA got the idea that they had some say in the laws and politics of my country.

          I’m not sure where they got that IDEA – but I just want you to understand something LOU_BC:

          I have no idea what sate, country or political ideology you occupy AND I DON’T CARE.

          “The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.””

          THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

          THE ARMS WE BEAR IS TO DEFEND OURSELVES FROM BOTH EACH OTHER AND THE GOVERNMENT if it becomes TYRANNICAL.

          If you don’t understand that: THAT’S YOUR PROBLEM.

          There’s NO DEBATE.

          There’s NO ARGUMENT.

          There’s NO DISCUSSION.

          In fact, because you said that, I’m not only gonna have my father buy a .38 on his CCW permit, but I’m gonna have him by ANOTHER AR-15 – just cause I CAN.

          In fact… now I want a .50 Cal.

          I want an M82 .50 cal now.

          Because of you – I’m gonna buy one.

          And I’m gonna get points on my Discover card – and then pay the bill off before the revolving balance hits.

          • 0 avatar
            Kenmore

            But no gun can protect you from blowhards popping CAPS at you.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @Big Trump Serial Reveller –

            “Somewhere along the line, foreigners and citizens who don’t like the constitution or respect AMERICA got the idea that they had some say in the laws and politics of my country.”

            Can you speak for yourself or you just parrot what Trump says?

            Too funny.

          • 0 avatar
            ttacgreg

            Judging by your stereotype ideological statements, am I correct in guessing that the USA’s government, built on the foundation of the US Constitution, with the Bill of Rights built right in, is the exact same “big government” you despise?
            Can’t have it both ways. Legalistically speaking only a government of laws can protect your freedom. I get another sneaky suspicion you never had a class on civics.
            Then again maybe you are just a simple anarchist want want the tyranny and chaos of a society governed only by arbitrary armed force?

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            ttacgreg,

            Your strawman is a Bernie supporter. The constitution sought to create a government that would remain accountable to the people. It is all about imposing limits on government while simultaneously protecting rights of individuals. If you have been denied that essential truth, you really should keep it to yourself. It makes you look like a parody of an ignoramus.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            Hey BTSR weren’t the very same framers of the Constitution who gave you the 2nd Amendment also were largely slave owners who protected the Constitutional right to own slaves in the USA.

            So just how infallible were they???????

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Shhhh, Arthur…he’s on a roll. A gut-bustin, gun-lovin’ roll.

            At least he’s not talking about fisting anymore. I suppose that’s progress.

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff Waingrow

        and obviously the answer to bad guys with guns is more good guys with guns. Like in Dallas. What could go wrong?

        • 0 avatar

          Or a robot with a bomb to instantaneously revoke rights to due process for a TERRORIST.

          (Excellent work officer)

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            Terrorist = murderer whose politics I disagree with?

          • 0 avatar
            AJ

            ^^Robot lives matter.

          • 0 avatar
            Kenmore

            Terrorist smoothies, quick & easy!

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Or a robot with a bomb to instantaneously revoke rights to due process for a TERRORIST.”

            Terrorist?

            “”The killer, who was known by his middle name Xavier or sometimes just X, told a friend that he believed white police officers were carrying out “genocide” against black people before he carried out the shooting.

            Israel Cooper, 19, said: “He was upset. He said white cops are just slaying black people, basically genocide. He said, “this is getting out of hand’.””

            WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN MINORITIES ARE KILLED BY POLICE FOR NO REASON?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Terrorist smoothies, quick & easy!”

            In the military it is refered to as “Pink Mist”.

          • 0 avatar
            Maymar

            So, isn’t that someone rising up against (what he thought was) a tyrannical government? I guess when the tyrannical government has robot bombs, the well regulated militia needs robot bombs too.

          • 0 avatar

            Lou_BC

            The media has these idiots terrified.

            Over 50% of police shoots are whites
            Only around 26% black.

            Typically they are non-compliant and threatening,.

            Stop trying to use the race card on me.

            I don’t empathize with criminals and if I had my way the most violent of offenders would be made examples of.

            Swiftly, brutally and permanently.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            I can google stats too. I am aware of the stats you mentioned.

            That wasn’t my question. This was my question –
            “WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN MINORITIES ARE KILLED BY POLICE FOR NO REASON?”

            Here is another –

            What is “non-compliant”?

            “2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.”

            Why is this sort of activity more prevalent among the black community?

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            I call it propaganda that works on those deficient of character and intellect.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            ToddAtlasF1 – “I call it propaganda”

            What specifically IS the propaganda you mention?

            Who is generating that propaganda?

            What end does that propaganda serve?

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            George Soros’ BLM movement serves to further divide the country. That’s the goal. If civil unrest can be fomented, a justification for martial law and suspending elections will be established in the eyes of people with only your intellectual tools. Self determination will be over, and the remaining population of peasants will once again be the serfs that the ruling class think they should be. There are few things as upsetting as having to hear jetskis from the deck of one’s yacht or confronting a woman that doesn’t think you’re entitled to her charms.

          • 0 avatar
            Kenmore

            “a woman that doesn’t think you’re entitled to her charms”

            You think you’re “entitled” to any woman’s charms, regardless of her social status?

            You’re a real piece of work. Thankfully, your parents gave us all a heads-up when they named you.

        • 0 avatar
          ttacgreg

          Or the GOP convention. I mean the delegates need to have their guns just in case a “bad guy” (the dreaded press for example) sneaks in. Shame on the Secret Service banning weapons at the convention.

          • 0 avatar

            The bad guy this year just ran down 75 people in a truck in Paris.

            Lou_BC

            Listen loud and clear:

            I WILL NEVER GIVE UP MY GUNS.

            There are threats out there and I am prepared.

            Those without guns will find themselves at the mercy of those with guns.

            This liberal mentality nonsense makes me shake my head.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Those without guns will find themselves at the mercy of those with guns.”

            That is true for the USA and Somalia and Iraq and…….

            “Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.”

            The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.

            Someone has to stop all of those leftist anti-gun Doctors out there.

        • 0 avatar
          GeneralMalaise

          To help cut thru the bullsh*t: “JOHN HINDERAKER: Are Blacks Disproportionately Involved In Police Shootings?
          What was the racial breakdown of those who were shot by police in 2015? The largest number, 494, almost exactly half, were white. 258 were black, 172 were Hispanic, and the remaining 66 were either “other” or unknown. (Interestingly, Asians are rarely shot by police officers.)

          The 258 blacks represent 26% of the total. That is about double the percentage of blacks in the American population. Is that prima facie evidence of racism on the part of law enforcement? Of course not. It is common knowledge that blacks have an unusually high rate of contact with the police, both as victims and as perpetrators. In 2012-2013, the Department of Justice found that blacks were the perpetrators of 24% of all violent crimes where the race of the perpetrator was known (in 7.8% of violent crimes, it was unknown).

          So the percentage of blacks fatally shot by police officers (26%) is almost exactly equal to the percentage of blacks committing violent crimes (24%). Indeed, given that the black homicide rate is around eight times the white rate, it is surprising that the portion of blacks fatally shot by policemen is not higher.”

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @GeneralMalaise –

            Since Big Trump Serial Reveler hasn’t answered my question than maybe you can:

            Why is this sort of activity more prevalent among the black community?

          • 0 avatar
            GeneralMalaise

            “I estimate about a dozen unarmed black men are killed by police each year, but only a small portion of them were not resisting arrest. How many were completely innocent is difficult to determine, but let’s say half. That means the threat of killer cops ranks up there with spider bites. The number of cops killed is over eight times higher. ”

            — Gavin McInnes

            http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2016/07/09/gavin-mcinnes-ooops-we-started-a-race-war/

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            GeneralMalaise – you still haven’t answered my question.

            I’ll rephrase it.

            Roughly 14% of the USA population is black but 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

            Why the disproportionately high incidence of crime in the black community?

            (I’m not implying that the police are guilty of systemic racism, far from it.)

            You or Big Trump Serial Reveller or ToddAtlas should be able to answer that question?

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            It’s because of LBJ’s Great Society. Final answer. The best indicator of whether or not a person will grow up to be a functioning member of society is whether or not they grow up in a stable two parent home. The Democrats broke that to assure future dependent voters.

      • 0 avatar
        GeneralMalaise

        The Left only wish to disarm law-abiding citizens, so it’s easier for the law-breakers within their ranks to spread their “social justice” mayhem and kill their law-abiding victims.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          “The Left only wish to disarm law-abiding citizens, so it’s easier for the law-breakers within their ranks to spread their “social justice” mayhem and kill their law-abiding victims.”

          Citations required!

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            If the left are disarming law abiding citizens, they are doing a seriously crappy job, given that there are now 300 million guns floating around America.

            My understanding was that ‘the left’ just wanted to disarm known terrorists on the ‘do not fly’ list, but that the gun lobby/NRA had once again blackmailed Republicans in Congress from banning even this commonsense measure supported by >80% of American citizens.

            A sad state of affairs.

        • 0 avatar
          Arthur Dailey

          And where did the law breakers get their guns?
          Nearly every gun used to commit a crime in the USA was originally purchased legally.

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “My understanding was that ‘the left’ just wanted to disarm known terrorists on the ‘do not fly’ list”

            If they are “know terrorists” then they should be arrested and prosecuted.

    • 0 avatar
      markf

      Please provide he list of cases in which legal gun owners who shot people in “Road Rage” I’ll stand by.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @markF –
        “37% of the aggressive driving incidents that occur involve at least one firearm.”

        “In fact, data gathered by SafeMotorist.com indicates that 66% of recent traffic fatalities can be linked to aggressive driving. More disturbingly, 37% of those fatalities were found to be caused by a firearm, rather than a typical accident. This shines a light on the fact that road rage often does not end once a driver is off the road or outside their car.”

        • 0 avatar
          markf

          And how many of those involved were illegally in possession of a firearm? How are they “linking” the incidents?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @markf – well, the moment you shoot someone it becomes illegal use of a firearm.

            You do some research and get back to me.

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “well, the moment you shoot someone it becomes illegal use of a firearm.

            You do some research and get back to me.”

            Not what I asked J/A How many off those alleged incidents involved illegally owned guns?

            And the moment you use a gun it is not illegal if it was a justifiable case of self defense (something I am sure the study does not count.

            Like a true liberal, always wrong but never in doubt…..

    • 0 avatar

      The American states that had slavery did not want to join with the American states that did not have slavery because all of the states wanted to keep their power to themselves instead of having them selves overpowered by the federal government which could possibly become tyrannical .

      The framers of the constitution knew that slavery was wrong because it violated their belief in individual freedom which is what the constitution is all about . Rather then do what Lincoln did and go to war with them, they compromised and in that compromise, slavery was allowed to stay legal .

      I understand why they had to do it and although it wasn’t pretty, the penultimate result is that I as a black male in America am free and I have GUNS AND A HELLCAT.

      #2. Do not continue to play the race card against me because you don’t know anything about my racial background. The vast majority of Africans were never slaves.

      You see black skin but you have no idea whether or not my ancestors were part of slavery nor do you have any understanding of my psychological background.

      For all you know, my ancestors sold blacks to white European slavers .

      In fact one of the biggest lies of slavery told to school children is that white people were totally responsible for slavery .

      What they don’t like to talk about is how Islamic terrorism and Islamic fundamentalist continue to keep slaves to this day which is evident by Michelle Obama’s #BringBackOurGirls .

      I’m not your typical brain-dead MSNBC, CNN watching liberal. I think well outside of the box and I have the ability and the money to leave the box in order to think .

      LOU_BC

      To answer your question about why so many blacks are involved in gun violence it’s very simple .

      Gun control was designed by whites to keep guns out of the hands of freed slaves and now law-abiding black citizens are at the mercy of gun toting black criminals . Law-abiding black citizens find themselves between those black criminals and the white police officer’s .

      Quite frankly in order for me to buy a gun I have to leave New York City and live where white people live (Long Island or Pennsylvania). I have to load up my Jeep and drive to Pennsylvania to play with A.R.15’s and my FN FAL.

      Because of the perpetual loss of jobs in this country the low skilled black labor force has nothing to hope for except the future of drug dealing or crime. Most of them are not smart enough to devote the time to studying or self-improvement like other racial minorities. I spent my life studying and mimicking or imitating what successful groups do rather than attempting to join the unsuccessful groups . That is the reason why I am RICH.

      It’s not just enough to have a bigger and better house than everyone else around me but when I’m on the road I have to have a ridiculously better vehicle than everyone else around me . I Choose to do this legally rather been illegally.

      If I devoted my mind to drug dealing or drug production I could probably be a damn good drug dealer . Highly organized and focused on the profit motive in addition to money laundering .

      The average low skilled unemployed black youth does not have that option because they aren’t learned enough .

      So they go out and buy a gun and use it either to commit crimes or to protect themselves while they commit crimes .

      This country’s entire issue with crime comes back to job loss and until I am able to elect a president that can bring jobs back to the poorest of communities it will only continue and it will only get worse. “Police brutality” is a consequence of police attempting to enforce areas where crime is perpetual at nonstop .

      More white people are shot year over year than blacks are because the problem is that job loss affects all communities in America – not just minority communities.

      I do not look at myself as being black even if everyone else does. I am an American and my first obligation is to ensure that my country succeeds above all others .

      The first step is to break the globalist control on American affairs and to elect a nationalist president who thinks the way I do .

      No – it does not take a village to raise a child. It takes individual parents doing their job. In order for parents to do the job they first have to have jobs because they must be able to provide for themselves .

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff Waingrow

        This is a very interesting post by BT. I now see that, in order to succeed as a black man in this society, he’s apparently had to twist himself into a bit of a pretzel. But at least he’s finally shown himself to be a pretty intelligent guy and not just a blowhard. I find myself even agreeing with a few of the things he says. So if he’d just calm down, stow some of the hyperbole, and join the more intelligent parts of the conversation, we might really have something positive develop. And we could stop picking on him.

        • 0 avatar

          This is a materialist society comprised of super-consumers who produce less than they consume.

          Champagne taste and beer money.

          To get recognition, you have to own more than “they” own.

          A supercar or recognized vehicle is essentially: “driving your wealth” and that’s the reason the car market is on fire right now.

          #1 many Americans can’t afford the home they want and it’s easier to put money in nicer cars.

          The problem is: as more Americans buy CLA, GLA, X-whatevers and XC90’s – now you’ve got to go one step ahead (an arms race) and buy something THEY CAN’T AFFORD.

          Hmmmm: a supercharged HEMI that gets 8mph, can go 200 mph supplemented by a $75,000 Jeep that gets 10 mpg and goes 0 – 60 in 4 seconds?

          And he has a house and a rental property?

          And a pension?

          And retirement investment accounts?

          LOL… only by learning from Chinese, Peter Schiff, and Wall Street could I attain such riches.

          Calm down?

          How could I possibly calm down?

          I wanna scream at Jesus!!!

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        Darn, BTSR some of what you write is so true and thoughtful, that I wonder what your real profession should be. I am short of time at the moment so will address some of what you posted above.

        “In fact one of the biggest lies of slavery told to school children is that white people were totally responsible for slavery.” True, the whites generally did not go inland they bought slaves from those traders who brought them to the coast. And slavery existed in Africa and Asia long before white slavers arrived. Read up on the Barbary Coast pirates who raided Scotland in the 19th century to bring white slaves to Africa.

        “What they don’t like to talk about is how Islamic terrorism and Islamic fundamentalist continue to keep slaves to this day which is evident by Michelle Obama’s.” Again true, it is almost endemic in certain cultures and societies in the mid-east and eastern Africa. Based on religious and racial stereotyping.

        “Because of the perpetual loss of jobs in this country the low skilled black labor force has nothing to hope for except the future of drug dealing or crime.” Again dead on. The ‘ruling class’ in America has long hidden the true problems in society, which are based on the class structure and instead convinced working class Americans that their oppressors/competitors/enemies are those of different races. Dividing and conquering and maintaining their ill gotten wealth and income disparity. See ‘Trumpism’. Until Americans realize that Marx had the wrong answers but asked the right questions they will never have social peace. The use of criminal background checks before hiring individuals for even low wage, low skill jobs has condemned an entire underclass to depending on either welfare or crime for income.

        “It violated their belief in individual freedom which is what the constitution is all about.” No the framers of the Constitution were merchants and capitalists, the revolution and the Constitution were all about entrenching their privilege. The Constitution is designed to prevent ‘mob rule’ or the working class gaining power. It is not about individual rights.

        • 0 avatar

          ” It is not about individual rights.”

          I disagree.

          I – congress shall make no law against freedom of speech
          II – The right to bear arms
          III- The prevention of putting soldiers in ma house
          IV – unreasonable search/seizure

          If you go in order, you recognize that every single Amendment was exactly designed to keep the individual free.

          I can say what I want.

          I got a GUN to keep you from stopping me from saying what I want.

          You can’t put cops in my basement – and they can’t take my guns.

          If I end up in court I’m not ratting on myself OR my friends.

          You can’t lock me up in a cell till I’m willing to talk.

          You can’t put me on trial if everyone on the jury is likely to hate me.

          You can’t charge me A BILLION DOLLARS for bail – knowing I can’t pay it.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            I – ‘congress shall make no law against freedom of speech.’ Freedom of speech is rather unimportant to those who are illiterate. Meaning the majority of Americans pre 1800. But important to the merchant class.

            II – ‘The right to bear arms.’ The poor/working class rural citizen would own one muzzle loader to hunt food and maybe protect their stock. Urban dwellers even in 1780 would not own a firearm. But the rich owned them in order to protect their homes and possessions from the rabble.

            III- ‘The prevention of putting soldiers in ma house.’ OK if you own a house. Not much use if you don’t. And didn’t stop it from happening in 1812-1814 and during the Civil War.

            IV – ‘unreasonable search/seizure.’ Again not much use to an illiterate or those who own no property. But certainly protects those who own property or are ‘lawyered up’.

            So protecting the self-interests of the merchants/capitalists/ruling elite.

            If you comparatively study constitutions, you will find that the one granting the greatest protection to its citizens, was the Soviet Union’s. A Constitution is only as good as the checks & balances and division of powers that are enshrined in it. And the American ‘Founding Fathers’ did a very good job of ensuring that America would remain a ‘representative government’ at least for those who were allowed to vote.

            FDR’s proposed 2nd Bill of Rights provided far more protection and security to the working class than what the Founding Fathers provided.

    • 0 avatar
      Kyree S. Williams

      Let’s all try to be civil; you can make your point without vitriol or name-calling.

  • avatar
    VoGo

    Men under 40 are more likely to exhibit road rage. Who would have guessed that?

    • 0 avatar
      Kenmore

      But there are also so many over 60 with guns and a p1ss-poor attitude these days as boomers experience hard landings for themselves and their families.

      I’m personally more fortunate but don’t really trust my own kind.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @ Kenmore – like Clark-Cutler-McDermott Company employees?

        • 0 avatar
          Kenmore

          Yeah, I’d say that’s a good latter-day, small scale example of the phenomenon that started 40 years ago in rubber-steel-glass country.

    • 0 avatar
      Alfie

      Testosterone, bruh.

    • 0 avatar
      GeneralMalaise

      Oh, that’s an easy one… A 52 year old self-described, safe driving brokedick.

      • 0 avatar
        Kenmore

        “safe driving brokedick”

        In a just world there would be a Darwin Tribunal for such advanced cases of mental disease.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    I received a little road rage last week during the backed-up approach to a lane-restricted construction zone.

    The lady in front of me decided it was her duty to block any vehicle trying to reach the merge point before she did, so she swerved very slowly back and forth across the dotted line as traffic inched along at 5 mph. My half-hearted attempt to pass her when her Cruze was almost fully in the right lane was immediately thwarted when she nearly clipped my right fender so she could reclaim the ‘fast’ lane.

    I think the 18-wheeler behind me was amused when she blocked him from passing on the right.

    • 0 avatar
      Hydromatic

      I would have let her clip me, then let her explain to the cops and her insurance company as to what the hell she was doing.

      • 0 avatar
        BuzzDog

        “I would have let her clip me…”

        I hope you’re joking, because I wouldn’t do that even if I had a bevy of dash cams aimed at the other driver’s bad behavior.

        I haven’t had to deal with an accident in almost 30 years, but I’m thinking it isn’t worth the time, hassle, insurance consequences, and possible bodily injury to purposely allow one to occur, just to make a point.

  • avatar
    yamahog

    Well, what do we expect when traffic law enforcement is focused on speeders and red light runners?

    Heck, ever see a police officer run the plates or check tabs on someone? The officer will drive a few feet off the bumper of the car in front. Remember kids, it’s only illegal if you get caught and if you’re a police officer you’re afforded a lot of leeway.

  • avatar
    mchan1

    It’s difficult to deal with the road rage issue considering that most Americans believe that having a driver’s license is a ‘right’ instead of a ‘privilege’ which it is.

    Unless you live in a crowded urban city where there’s public transportation, you do need a vehicle to go to work or to drive any place. Unfortunately, not everyone has a ‘valid’ license to either drive or even own a vehicle.

    Certain parts of America is worse off when it comes to bad drivers (i.e. MassHole drivers & NE/mid-Atlantic areas)!

    Congested roadways because the road infrastructure stinks due to lack of repair and no room to build out along with a growing urban area population would cause the general driving public to have road rage though lack of manners and lack of attention also are contributors of it.

    Lastly, some law enforcement auto units in many areas of the U.S. have quotas to fill (i.e. tickets to give out). That doesn’t help matters either.

  • avatar
    -Nate

    WHEE ! .
    .
    Let the fun commentary begin .
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    -Nate

  • avatar
    raph

    Oh hell I tailgate brake checkers like no tomorrow and love it when they slow down as well. The best cream of the crop are left lane brake checkers!

    They don’t really piss me off but I dont miss the chance to antagonize the hell out of those guys.

    On the other hand…

    You sorry bastareds that love to ease out into traffic and force people to hit the brakes as you then ease up to speed you deserve your special spot in hell! Yeah that’s my peeve and the one most likely to get me on the angry driver list.

    Otherwise I can,be fairly tolerant as I’m also that guy that takes a back road everywhere even when it’s a 100 miles out of the way.

  • avatar
    FlimFlamMan

    As long as there are cars driven by people, there will be road rage (across the globe), especially when it comes to heavy traffic.

    What really is road rage? Flipping someone the bird, honking, yelling is not what I would consider road rage.

  • avatar
    Whatnext

    How sad to live in such fear of your fellow citizens.

  • avatar
    Pch101

    1st Squad will provide a base of covering fire so that I can complete my lane change. 2nd Squad will go hard and fast up the middle, attacking the enemy from the rear so that we can make it to the offramp. You have your orders.

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff Waingrow

      General Big Truck will bring up the rear, offering constitutional commentary while remaining a safe distance from the fray.

      • 0 avatar
        Pch101

        If he has been promoted to general, then I’m deserting.

        He should be a buck private who is restricted to latrine duty. Or I guess that I should say LATRINE DUTY.

        • 0 avatar
          Nick_515

          Heheheheh. Thank God for VoGo too… otherwise I couldn’t bear the crap to get to the good stuff here.

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            Thanks. But I don’t need your praise, I need you to provide suppressing fire between here and the next traffic light. Use the RPG to take out that bro-dozer over on the left if you have to.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Interesting that General Big Truck would be a strict constructionist…given that he’s BLACK. Now, gee, what was going on with black folks in 1787? Give me a sec and I’ll look that up…

        • 0 avatar
          markf

          You guys really are a bunch of race baiting racists in here. Cause a guy is black he can’t believe in the constitution cause slavery…..

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            Mark, if you received a public education, then I sincerely apologize because my tax dollars obviously failed you.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Not just racists, but race baiting racists. I see.

            I suppose the irony of a black guy waxing poetic about the “original intent” of the constitution is lost on you…

            (News flash for you and BTSR: the constitution was written 229 years ago…a few things have changed since then)

        • 0 avatar
          shaker

          Maybe BTSR’s attitude suggests that today’s RACISM is actually CLASS-ISM, which, I suppose, is PROGRESS.

          I dunno, people with firearms seem to lose 50 IQ points when they talk of their *love* of the Second Amendment.

          BTW, Road Rage has been responsible for more deaths than Autopilot – discuss.

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “I suppose the irony of a black guy waxing poetic about the “original intent” of the constitution is lost on you…”

            There is no irony in an American citizen discussing the founders original intent. The only irony is the left hatred of Blacks diguised as “concern”

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            The founders’ original intent was to allow the Southern states to treat black folks as personal property.

            I can see why you would think that’s an awesome idea. But I would be a little surprised that someone who would have been treated like a cow or a pig back in the good ol’ days would agree with you.

  • avatar
    skor

    Genuine road rage is still uncommon, thank Dog. What I’m seeing more of is just plain ol’ distracted driving. iZombies and obliviots everywhere.

    • 0 avatar
      GeneralMalaise

      Rare? What else could be the cause of the murderous carnage in Nice, France!?!?

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        They still have to ascertain the motives of the driver and there hasn’t been any terrorist groups claiming responsibility.

        Oh and this,

        Trucks don’t kill people, people kill people.

        • 0 avatar
          GeneralMalaise

          You sound like our prez who still hasn’t figured out what the prime motivation was at Fort Hood, Orlando, San Bernardino, Dallas, etc… ad nauseum…

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “They still have to ascertain the motives of the driver ”

            I am sure he was an angry Buddhist….

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            GeneralMalaise – Here is your motivation. You totally missed the fact that USA foreign policy especially from the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld era fostered the rise of ISIS and also fueled Al-Qaeda and anti-USA sentiments among the Muslim community.

            General Stanley McChrystal had this to say about Iraq War version Bush Junior:

            “There were a lot of us who didn’t think Iraq was a good idea.”

            He went on to say, “I think they were made more difficult in one sense from the military standpoint, but I really think they were made more difficult because they changed the Muslim world’s view of America’s effort. When we went after the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001, there was a certain understanding that we had the ability and the right to defend ourselves. And the fact that al-Qaida had been harbored by the Taliban was legitimate. I think when we made the decision to go into Iraq, that was less legitimate with many of the observers. And so while there was certainly a certain resource strain and reduction in the ability of just our attention to be in multiple places, I think that it was more important that much of the Muslim world now questioned what we were doing, and we lost some of the support that I think would have been helpful longer term.”

        • 0 avatar
          markf

          “Trucks don’t kill people, people kill people.”

          So are trying to be sarcastic or just ignorant. You gonna blame the truck the way you blame guns? Do we need more truck control? Background checks for trucks? Limits on fuel capacity? Elimination of assault trucks? “Common sense” truck control laws that 298% of all people support?

    • 0 avatar
      mchan1

      Come up and visit the New England/Mid-Atlantic area if you want to see Road Rage.

      Meet the infamous MassHole drivers!

  • avatar
    golden2husky

    considering the congestion in the northeast, the road rage is no surprise. Day after day, week after week, year after year of a 2.5 hour commute home does wonders for your soul. I’ve had people who get enraged that you had the nerve to change lanes. They see your signal and hammer the gas to block you out. Not to me. If the space is there and I signal my intent, I’m taking the lane no matter how hard you jam on the gas. Such behavior infuriates the aholes, and I’ve had the jerks swerve around me and, even if it takes a few miles, cut in front of me and stomp on the brake,all at 50 miles an hour. Sometimes I wish I was driving a late sixties Cadillac and let my car hit his and then push him until his tires blow out. So, yeah, no surprise RR is so popular in the NE.

    • 0 avatar
      ttacgreg

      I slide into the slot in the new with just a few feet between me and the car ahead and then immediately increase the distance. Unless the car behind wants to really jam the throttle and close the distance they really can’t do anything about it except get pissy.

      That where I will admit to road rage, of a sorts. There is such a thing as passive aggressive driving. This would be my response to tailgaters. Tailgainting is pure emotion, not logic. Okay, so now you are two feet off of my bumper. Exactly what am I supposed to do, especially on two lane roads, and especially at 5-10 over the speed limit?
      As much of a keep right except to pass fanatic that I am, if I am on a freeway and someone is less than three feet off my rear, well, they do get to pass on the right,after which I will then move right.. Note that I use the left lane to pass, and I will not match the right lane vehicle and block dynamic traffic flow, even if it means speeding up considerably to get the job done, as a certain Semi trailer driver found out yesterday when when he sped up a good 10+ mph after I pulled abreast of him.

      • 0 avatar
        ttacgreg

        An amendment to this comment. I would move right if passing on the right was illegal, as it is in Germany.
        Visiting a friend there once, he had a tailgater at 160kph, literally two meters back. I think we just have gone about three or four miles before he moved right. The late middle aged women in the shot gun seat of the passing car pressed her hands together as if in prayer in obvious gratitude for us finally getting out of the way.

        also
        ToddAtlasF1 . . .
        You can throw labels and names my way , but what if any logical fallacies did I commit in the statement you responded to? Honest truth sir, I am a registered Republican.

    • 0 avatar
      Dan

      Half of it is the horrible traffic, the other half is the reduced likelihood of behavior that should get you shot actually getting you shot.

      http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/559451a2ecad0464750b3d6c-1200-970/gun-ownership-study-state-map.png

    • 0 avatar
      TOTitan

      I live in Thousand Oaks CA which is about 6 miles inland from Malibu. Needless to say I am frequently on two of the busiest freeways in the world…the 101 and the 405. Surprisingly I see very little road rage around here. I frequently find myself in bumper to bumper traffic with thousand of others going 65-75, which is actually pretty damn impressive. Ive never been to another area where cars routinely run so fast in such a tight pack, and have so little road rage occur.

    • 0 avatar
      markf

      “GeneralMalaise – Here is your motivation. You totally missed the fact that USA foreign policy especially from the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld era fostered the rise of ISIS and also fueled Al-Qaeda and anti-USA sentiments among the Muslim community.”

      Never mind the 9/11 attacks were planned before Bush came to office, as were the attacks on Khobar Towers, the first WTC Attack, the USS Cole attack, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the terror attacks at CIA HQ etc. etc.

      Yes, those muslims LOVED us until W came into office!

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        markf – Lets look at Iran. It was democratic and was going to nationalize its oil. Big British and USA oil would have been screwed. They encouraged the CIA and British Intelligence to set the wheels in motion to put the Shah in place. He was as big a murderer as Pinochet or Hussein. That lead to some of the earliest anti- USA sentiment in the region. The USA support of Israel and bases in Saudi Arabia don’t go over too well either. Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi Arabian. To many Saudi Arabia is sacred soil.
        Muslims in the USA were encouraged by their leaders to vote for Dubya Bush since they felt his conservative Christian values mirrored most of their own.
        Iraq version Dubya was the birthplace of ISIS.

        Not all Muslims hate the west but USA foreign policy has turned a large number of them against the USA.

        A country has a legitimate right to hunt terrorists but the moment you start painting an entire religion with the same brush it is doomed to failure.

        How did persecution of early Christians work out for Rome or the Pharisees?

        Yes, there are terrorists that are Muslims just like there are white fundamentalists or Christian fundamentalists that use terror.

        I perhaps should of stayed a conservative, life is so much simpler on that side of the fence. One just ignores or hates what one don’t understand instead of trying to understand.

        • 0 avatar
          markf

          “Muslims in the USA were encouraged by their leaders to vote for Dubya Bush since they felt his conservative Christian values mirrored most of their own.

          You can’t just say s**t and expect it to be true.

  • avatar
    JEFFSHADOW

    After a “quiet” 90-minute commute drive home on the freeways of southern California, despite the idiots, speeders, Sentra drivers and more, I just maintain OC – “Obama Cool” – that really infuriates the lowlife third world “drivers” out here.
    You know they’re going to do stupid things. If they have a Kia, Hyundai, Honda or Toyota the odds are even greater of ignorant acts on the road.
    Anyone over age 25 and driving a Kia has already made several mistakes in their life. Instead of speeding, swerving and other dangerous driving maneuvers, please just go hit a wall and hopefully be done with yourself and that POS car! Maybe someday every KIA can get the Tesla autopilot system and be directed into the side of a semi.
    The 85% rules:
    Dodge Avenger – watch out -Drive Time operator, bad credit, even less concern with safety and responsibility. Usually unsafe tires.
    Hyundai Accent – should be Hyundai Accident – simply terrible drivers.
    No concern for others at all. If they cared at all they would not be in a Hyundai!
    Rice Racers buzzing around on their lowered suspensions, etc: Oblivious, stupid scumbags who should not have any license, except perhaps a “target-license” for the well-trained militia!
    Corollas – as mentioned several posts back, road blockers, pure and simple.
    Sentra – don’t get me started again… When you project your choice of vehicle on an unsuspecting public, quite simply not the greatest idea to have the updated Datsun F10.

    From the land of Oldsmobiles, Buicks and Cadillacs . . .
    Oh, to vacation in Minnesota with 85% domestic vehicles everywhere!

  • avatar
    ttacgreg

    Moderators, if you want to block this comment I fully understand,

    @BTSR
    “The bad guy this year just ran down 75 people in a truck in Paris.”

    I would like to see a “good guy with a gun” stop a truck with their gun. Possible, not too likely.
    How about about stopping a bullet proof robot bomb with a gun?

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      May have been useful, pistol rounds at the driver or rifle rounds into the motor or tires could have changed the outcome somewhat. I’m not a gun nut but its starting to look necessary. That or remove the problem, difficult as that may be.

      Btw it was Nice, not Paris.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @28 – That truck was hit with multiple rounds. The front tires were shot out. There were armed police all over the place for that celebration. There were no lack of guns in Nice. The guns were in the hands of those trained to use them.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          I saw that since then on Twitter. It wasn’t clear to me if they aimed at tires but I can only assume they did.

          I almost visited Nice when I was in Geneva last month but after struggling with my limited French there I thought if you can’t cut it in wannabe France (Genève) real France isn’t the place for you.

          Somewhere in France, and elsewhere, people are cheering. This all feels like shades of a 21st Century Op Gladio but assuming it is not, it is those who are decent in the French foreign community who suffer but they clearly either cannot or will not police their own. The State will be forced to take action because it needs to maintain order, and everyone loses. My fear is this sort of things continues to happen while the State merely restricts civil liberties while completely failing to address the problem. I’d almost bet on it, at least until the EU dictatorship falls. Hopefully one day the madness will subside without too much of a body count.

          God help us.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            28-Cars-Later – I agree. It is truly sad. Evil has no bounds.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            I dunno, 28, 72 years ago, instead of some wacko running over 70 people with it a truck, it was some wacko putting 70 people into a gas chamber 20 times a day, seven days a week.

            Progress?

            Unfortunately, cruelty and stupidity are part of the human equation. Always have been. But things could be worse…a lot worse.

      • 0 avatar
        ttacgreg

        Nice, not Paris?
        How embarrassing,
        I deserved that one because it was a direct copy and paste of our friend BTSR’s comment. Next time I will proof read for accuracy and remove the quotation marks.
        :)

    • 0 avatar
      markf

      If you don’t think you can stop people in cars/trucks with guns then you are not very smart and don’t understand how guns actually work.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @markf – I understand how guns work and what they can do to the human body. I also have a very good idea as to how long it takes to bleed out or for a lung to collapse. Adrenalin is an amazing thing.
        The laws of physics dictate how far a 10 ton truck can travel before grinding to a halt.
        Point is, that vehicle isn’t going to come to a Wile E. Coyote immediate stop the moment you open fire upon it.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      Let’s see you stop that truck in France with a handgun, mark.

      Show us dumb gun hating liberals how it’s done!

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        FreedMike – too many Dirty Harry movies.

        ‘You’ve got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?’

      • 0 avatar
        markf

        Funny, that is exactly how the French cops stopped that truck. J/A

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          markf = not handguns alone. But why cloud your version of reality with the truth.

          • 0 avatar
            markf

            “markf = not handguns alone. But why cloud your version of reality with the truth.”

            I see you have somehow obtained the ballistics report from the French Police, nice…..

            Again, you can’ just make stuff up and present it as fact

        • 0 avatar
          FreedMike

          Operative word, “cops,” mark – as in a bunch of cops, all heavily armed, versus one guy with a handgun.

  • avatar
    sco

    I agree, I was not guilty of road rage last year, not even once. Except for that time the jackass in the white Dodge pickup passed me on the right shoulder after which i tailgated him for three miles with my brights on, passed him, cut in front of him, then jammed on the brakes. Who’s the king now?
    Just kidding. Everyone has their moments of small aggression on the highway, you’d have to be a saint to be courteous all the time.

  • avatar
    ttacgreg

    And speaking of guns and road rage, anybody remember about 15 years ago when there was a brief outbreak of road rage incidents with gunfire in LA? vehicles were being shot at. in traffic I remember Jay Leno joking about in a serious manner on his show. That was kinda scary.

  • avatar

    The most common Woad Wage move is the guy who blocks the passing lane. After the cell phone conversation ends, he (always he) snaps to, and carbon blows out of the tailpipe as the CamCord (usually dirty, stuff on the back deck) gets floored for the first time in three months. The 55-70 easy pass becomes a stupid 70-95 screamer..

    Yesterday’s Woad Wage incident was a woman in the left lane, in an older minivan with stuff all over. A car behind her was flashing her 45 in a 55 zone where everyone does 75. She slows down to 30, pulling to the left of this 75 mph road. I saw this and was able to avoid. She made her very own traffic jam !

    I don’t get Woad Wage…oh, I’ve been pissed too, but if someone is driving like a moron, I get as far away as I can ASAP-if you are a moron, the LAST place I want to be is anywhere near you… I’ll even slow down to allow them to get away..never make eye contact.

  • avatar

    Is tailgating a left-lane laggard until she becomes distracted from her phone, aware of how slow she’s driving and moves over to the right lane any worse than unsafely passing on the right?

    I’m not trying to “teach anyone a lesson”. I don’t tailgate anyone actively passing right lane traffic no matter how slowly they are doing it.I don’t if vehicles ahead or behind me are tailgating as well. I never try and use anyone else as a “radar shield”. I immediately pass anyone when they do move over and don’t hang in their blindspot or slow after moving to the right I won’t tailgate in any lane other than the far left. Even those tankers that can’t stop as well as me and offer a tempting drag-minimzing fuel-saving opportunity.

    • 0 avatar
      BuzzDog

      “Is tailgating a left-lane laggard until she becomes distracted from her phone, aware of how slow she’s driving and moves over to the right lane any worse than unsafely passing on the right?”

      I don’t disagree, but lately I’ve been pulling over or falling back and letting another driver (usually one who is also tailgating ME) come along and do the tailgating of the left lane bandit for me.

      Call me passive aggressive, but call me and my vehicle undamaged.

  • avatar
    markf

    Why do the house lefties have to inject Trump and politics into every thread? Are they that insecure in their beliefs?

    • 0 avatar
      GeneralMalaise

      They’re old and in the way, Mark. Given the many bureaucrats among their ranks, they feel threatened.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        Funny to say that those on the left are insecure when those on the right (at least the one’s posting) have a need to be armed to the teeth with handguns, assault riffles and tactical shotguns.

        And like Trump want to ban anyone that might remotely be a threat.

        The irony is so very powerful.

        Oh and I’m still waiting for replies to several of my questions.

        Try Wikipedia.

        It is a weak start but at least it is a start.

        This is as entertaining as watching Trump try to sound credible.

        • 0 avatar
          markf

          You need to spend less time at Media Matters and lifting their press releases……..

          Let me know when those on the right start chopping off heads and flying airliners into skyscrapers……

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @markf – you are just too amusing. Good luck on that Trump vote.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Let me know when those on the right start chopping off heads and flying airliners into skyscrapers……”

            “Extraordinary rendition and enhanced interrogation techniques.”

            Evil is evil and human rights violations are still crimes against humanity regardless of which side of the religions divide you stand upon.

            (Don’t know why it separated this post from that one)

          • 0 avatar
            ttacgreg

            With all due respect, check out The American Conservative site. Fascinating articles and amazing commentaries.

        • 0 avatar
          ttacgreg

          There is some research that points to those who gravitate Rightward are more prone to fear.
          I concluded that watching how conservatives reacted to the USSR back in the day.

          • 0 avatar
            ToddAtlasF1

            That’s a really tone deaf thing to post on a day that the progressive inability to foresee the obvious had such a formidable body count.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      It’s our mission in life to piss you off, mark.

      (Or so you’d think from posts like this…)

      • 0 avatar
        markf

        ““Extraordinary rendition and enhanced interrogation techniques.”

        cause that is exactly the same as chopping off heads, driving trucks into crowds, flying airplanes into buildings and blowing people up…..

  • avatar
    05lgt

    The car being merged in front of is more likely to accelerate to block than not where I drive. I watched a pasdive SUV driver get blocked until she started weaving eratically when driving into the shoulder runoff after the onramp merge lane ran out today. That Mini was pretty bossy until he realized she didn’t have a “cease existing” button in that MDX, then it must have gotten scary. It was a nice comedy routine.

  • avatar
    AoLetsGo

    It is the two-wheelers (pedal and motor) and even the small car drivers that are suffering out there. The ragers and obivlidiots in their big trucks and SUV’s are making them suffer and sometimes paying the ultimate price.

  • avatar
    Jacob

    I will tell without lying that I never road rage. I never honk to make a statement (in many cities in Texas honking is considered a quite rude behavior, so you don’t honk under any circumstance). I never make eye contact with other drivers, unless in order to greet them or communicate their right of way. I make no aggressive moves. When I see any assholes on the road, I simply let them go. You never know what sort of very serious mental issues these people already have. When I see someone merge into traffic at 20mph while the everyone is driving at 50mph, I do nothing because that’s a socially accepted Texas way of merging on the road. I do admit that I often tailgate the people in the left lane, the kind that drive below the posted speed limit and block everyone else. I also get the hell out of the left lane when I see a car approaching me from behind much faster than I go. The rest of my family on the other hand.. everyone breaks nearly every one of these rules. I don’t know why.

  • avatar
    doublechili

    I think we need an article about guns so that we can have a meaningful discussion of road rage.

    Perhaps then we can come to the logical conclusion that road rage is caused by Bush/Cheney and the racism inherent in our Constitution.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    I do everything but ram people and purposely cut people off on what feels like a daily basis. I think I may have a problem.

    My big gripes are trucks and people who will just ride side by side with someone else on a 2 lane. Ramming people and road rage in general is stupid, but a lot of it would be eliminated if Americans exercised more lane discipline/etiquette. When I drove in Italy it was orgasmic. Trucks stayed all the way to the right; slower cars stayed in the middle, left lanes were reserved purely for passing if traffic allowed it. Here in America, gosh dern it Im payin fer all the lanes, and if I wanna go 2 under the limit then you do too buddy. And if yer dewnt loike it, my buddies Smith N Wesson can help yer see my dern point of view.

    As a Northeasterner I get why road rage is so high up there. It’s a miserable place to live and drive. Too many people, not enough road.

    • 0 avatar
      doublechili

      I feel your pain. Ever take Psych 101? I recall a famous study where they put too many rats in a confined maze, and they exhibited irrational and aggressive behavior as a result.

      Many parts of the Northeast = too many rats in the maze. Road rage is one result.

      BTW, you make a good point about what I’ll call “passive road rage”. Excepting the clueless, in many cases the person driving 2 under the limit in the left lane is a passive road-rager.


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