By on September 25, 2015

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Used car dealerships have filed a proposed class action lawsuit against Volkswagen over cars they say they can’t sell and are seeking the same compensation the German automaker is offering its new car dealers, Reuters reported (via Automotive News).

According to the attorney representing the dealers, selling the cars could put the businesses at risk of lawsuits from their customers. If the used dealers can’t sell their in-stock Volkswagen diesels, the businesses would shoulder the losses, the lawsuit alleges.

The lawsuit brought forward by the dealerships adds to the mountain of lawsuits Volkswagen is facing after the company admitted that its cars illegally polluted up to 40 times the allowable limit of nitrogen oxides.

Last week, Volkswagen issued a stop-sale notice for its cars equipped with their 2-liter diesel engine in Jetta, Golf, Passat, Beetle and Audi A3 models.

The German automaker announced this week that it would offer more incentives to its dealers to help offset the costs of unsaleable cars on their lots.

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33 Comments on “Used Car Dealers Line Up Against Volkswagen...”


  • avatar
    PeriSoft

    Volkswagen has once again done the impossible – no, not making a TDI system work without injection… they made used car dealers into a sympathetic party! Amazing!

  • avatar
    sirwired

    I don’t see why used car dealers should be treated differently vs. any other TDI owner.

  • avatar

    The class action lawsuits (over $100,000,000 worth) claim that VW made buyers co-conspirators in defrauding the government and destroyed the value of their cars since they are effectively “illegal” to sell.

    I might be able to snag a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport on firesale.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    The simple solution is for EPA, Federal DOT, or some such acronym to issue an edict stating everything is exempt until a solution is found.

    • 0 avatar
      carguy

      By your logic, if an company or individual commits fraud, we should suspend all fraud laws until “a solution can be found”?

      How about enforcing the law and punishing the perps for breaking it?

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Please, the true rule of law went out the window years ago. Now you’ve got private owners, dealers, leasing companies, and auctions who have product that’s in limbo with no available fix as of this time. How would you like to be in that position, would you be so hard on yourself over something that you didn’t personally cause and does not matter?

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          Wrongdoing by one party hurts other parties all the time. It doesn’t mean we can suspend enforcing the law for the benefit of the third parties. (For the record, that’s exactly the behavior conservatives have been complaining about, with some justification, with respect to ACA implementation.)

          The party that’s responsible for making new car dealers, used car dealers, and owners whole isn’t the EPA. It’s Volkswagen, who committed the fraud. They can pay, or be sued (as is happening).

  • avatar
    WhiskeyRiver

    If there ever was a time to buy a used car I don’t like – This is it.

  • avatar

    Again, just going to leave here the fact that I have a gorgeous ’13 Beetle TDI with Sun/Sound/Nav and 20,600 easy miles..

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      Automatic or Manual trans?

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        DSG.

        “Dynamic, luxurious, and with a remarkably efficient Diesel, this outstanding low-mileage Beetle TDI is still under full warranty! A push of the ignition button brings to life a 2.0l 4-cylinder turbodiesel that packs 140hp and a walloping 236lb-ft of torque for commanding acceleration off the line and out on the open road. Paired with a slick-shifting 6-speed DSG”

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Shut up and take my money.

      Btw Flybrian last I checked diesels are emissions exempt in PA registration, it actually says “emissions testing requires/diesel vehicles exempt” on the registration card.

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        I want his 2012 Fusion. The price is reasonable and it has the good appearance package.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          CD3 Zephyr > CD3 Fusion

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            I dunno. 3.5L V6 > 3.0L V6. There is basically no difference in fuel economy and the 3.5L is smoother and faster. The right answer is CD3 Fusion Sport, but they are hard to find.

            It depends what you want in a car. in many cases, the MkZephyr is the right answer.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Fusion sport had the 3.5? Otherwise this sounds like heresy.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Yes, the Fusion Sport has the 3.5. Ford should have carried it over to the current car.

            The price vs mileage on Flybrian’s Fusion is awesome. Expect to pay about $3-$4K more for a similar mileage MKZ.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Zephyrs go for slightly less than Fusions on average despite being more car, laugh at the shyster that sells you otherwise (ha, a pun!).

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            I actually think the sweet spot for the CD3 Fusion is the I4 2.5L. It’s a good commuter to purchase on the used market.

            Most of the time when you want a V6, MKZ. Unless you want the Fusion Sport. My parents have an MKZ with the Sport Package that is similar.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            You know what, I read your first post wrong. I thought you were saying CD3 Fusion > CD3 Zephyr. I don’t know why. Too much work this week….

            We agree. Zephyr is the answer.

            I should just go home and work from the back porch with a beer.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            The Lincoln dealership by me just got a glut of 2013 MKSs. They have 25 of them!

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            A beer would be nice about now, go home and have one.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            I agree with you that the MKZ is the more rational choice, but that monochrome Fusion looks so much prettier than any first-gen MKZ I think I’d have to choose it anyway.

            Then rip out the first-gen Sync and put in a modern double-DIN nav HU.

          • 0 avatar
            blppt

            My father had a Fusion Sport AWD with the 3.5, and honestly, it did not feel very quick, plus it downshifted to 5th or 4th on even slight grades at highway speeds (~65mph).

            And it got pretty bad gas mileage, 20mpg combined or so. Now, the EB’s theoretical EPA advantage is overrated, but I’m pretty confident the AWD fusion 2.0 EB would do better than 20mpg combined.

            My last dislike about the car was the lifeless steering—the car probably handled pretty well, but the steering felt like an old 80s cadillac—overboosted to the extreme, and no feel at all.

            In short, I would put this particular model very low on my list of cars to own. And I had an earlier FWD version of this platform, an ’08 Mercury Milan with the 4cylinder. The engine was gutless, but I liked the interior, and it handled great for a base 4dr family sedan. Makes me wonder how Ford managed to screw up this particular Fusion’s steering so bad—maybe it was their first attempt at electric assist?

        • 0 avatar

          Nice choice, Bball40dtw. I bought it because of the Sport Appearance Group. Alas, the 3.0l V6 since its not the full-on ‘SPORT.’

      • 0 avatar

        Interestingly, this thing has had quite some attention over the past week. A local young lady wanted to trade in her ’02 Beetle 2.0 on it, but I got her budget-friendly payments on a pearl white ’11 Edge SEL instead. I also got a guy in off the internet, but his wife wants him to get a convertible, so now he’s looking at my ’10 Cooper S 6-speed. I also had someone in Alaska call me about it, but I haven’t heard tell from him in days now, so I assume that deal is dead.

        Its also on eBay and bringing what I need from it, so any more is gravy as far as I’m concerned. Bid to win, baby!

        I genuinely believe my luck to have two high-profile diesels the week this diesel scandal breaks. If the market is kind on the wholesale side next week, heck, I’ll buy some more TDIs for the right price because apparently people DO NOT CARE.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      Why does the 2012 E350 diesel on your lot have Winrun tires? Hahahaha. I expect Triangle, Golden Happiness, Linglong, or Superior Assurance tires on my E350.

  • avatar
    PandaBear

    Can they force VW HQ to buy those cars off their hands at cost?

  • avatar
    April S

    Why do I have a feeling these lawyers will be cold-calling BHPH used car dealers. Trying to convince them they can get mucho money (minus 25% for their fees) for all those worn out Jettas sitting on the back row.

    P.S. Be sure to air up the tires and charge up the battery. After all they have been sitting for over a year.

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