You Coulda Had A V6 — Unless You Bought A CR-V, Of Course

Jack Baruth
by Jack Baruth
you coulda had a v6 unless you bought a cr v of course

Did you make the sensible, sane choice of the four-cylinder engine in your 2015 Accord? What about refusing to perform an LS7 swap in your CR-V immediately after taking delivery? Well, now you are going to (have a one in three thousand chance that you will have to) pay for that mistake.

Quoth Honda:

Honda will voluntarily recall 137 model-year 2014-2015 Accord 4-cylinder and 2015 CR-V vehicles in the United States to replace the engine short block, free of charge. During engine assembly, an automated system that verifies engine connecting rod bolt torque may not have identified improperly torqued bolts in a specific group of engines. An improperly torqued connecting rod bolt could come loose, leading to potential engine damage and stalling, which could contribute to a crash. No crashes or injuries have been reported related to this issue, which was discovered through a warranty claim review process.

Honda is announcing this recall to encourage all owners of affected vehicles to take them to an authorized dealer as soon as they receive notification of this recall from Honda. Mailed notification to customers will begin in late-March. In addition, owners of these vehicles can determine if their vehicles require repair by going to or by calling (800) 999-1009, and selecting option 4.

So, how did this happen, and how do they know about it? It was likely the result of auditing logs from a FANUC machine or something similar and comparing them to a torn-down engine. The Anna Engine Plant turns out a few thousand engines every day so the actual range of time where the machine was not adjusted properly could be very small. It’s also possible, of course, that every four-cylinder Honda built last year will explode. You never know. I think we can all agree that the important lesson to learn from this is: always get the bigger engine.

Full disclosure: At one point in the past, your humble author might have been directly responsible for this error or at least in the chain of responsibility identified by Honda’s 5P Process. Thankfully, this happened long after I bid goodbye to the Marysville Assembly Plant and I had nothing to do with it. This is the sort of thing for which American Honda will immediately terminate even a long-standing employee.

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  • Big Al from Oz Big Al from Oz on Mar 11, 2015

    If the torqueing issue was a blatant procedural or process violation then the employee should be fired. We have the same in the aviation industry. You will find most violations are committed by a more senior person who considers his/her skillsets and knowledge better than others. With time constraints on employees' for productivity they may have been pressured to perform at too high a level. If the supervisor and manager/engineer erred they should be removed. You can also trace violation and errors to the top of the management structure. High level managers are responsible for dollars, ie, profit and saving resources. At time managers are similar to a person on the floor who commits a violation of processes and procedures. So, to accommodate the managers wishes "work arounds" are created by the lower skilled line workers and supervisors, etc to meet productivity requirements. There are maintenance or production errors which aren't a violations, just unforeseen problems could of arose. I'd bet some form of Occurrence/Incident inquiry will be initiated. The problem with these types of inquiries is the managers can orchestrate and re-direct responsibility in a disproportionate way, especially if they are the ones who have f#cked up. It's a big call to say some had inadequate training. Training this day and age in any modern economy is quite adequate. An independent person should conduct any inquiry.

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    • Big Al from Oz Big Al from Oz on Mar 12, 2015

      @ihatetrees, I didn't state ALL situations end up that way. But there is a culture among higher level managers. Look at it this way. Look at all of the recall cover-ups. Did the truth really come out of the investigations. How much do managers at the top know? Is blame meted out fairly, or are there scape goats? Any large institution works similarly as each other. 1. The institution is protected first, ie, the name. In this case Honda has no choice but to act. 2. The chain of command is next protected. I'm not stating the degree of protection as it can vary from each institutions culture. 3. The instigator of a breach, incident, occurrence, etc is the last to be protected along with the victims. This is a sad fact. Individually or even within sections or departments within an institution cultures varies and differing views are found. Institutionalised organisations are political, very political. If you are batting for the correct team you can be moved up the chain quicker. This is a fact of life.

  • Bullnuke Bullnuke on Mar 11, 2015

    Seems that Honda found itself in a position where they couldn't write off a failure with "customer abuse" as the cause or the arrogant attitude of "Honda's are perfect - not our problem" line. My experience with them is they don't admit things like this about their products unless there is absolutely no way to wiggle around an issue. Please pardon my schadenfreude.

    • Geeber Geeber on Mar 11, 2015

      My experience has been the exact opposite. They are more likely to admit that there is a problem, and correct it, than other manufacturers. Particularly the European manufacturers.

  • Arthur Dailey Any vehicle with a continental hump, even if vestigial, gets a thumbs up from me.
  • KOKing Actually a place called Sector111 in Temecula, CA was importing them for sale in the US starting around 2012. A friend had a shop right next door, and I recall seeing the very first one the owner imported for himself, and would bring it out to promote at various local events. Also shows this thing's been around for a while.
  • KevinB A $300 fine for me would be an "ouch". For someone else it may mean the electric bill doesn't get paid and there won't be enough gas to get to work.
  • SCE to AUX Historically, the Land Cruiser sold ~3000 units annually in the US for its last 15 years, so the answer is no.
  • Theflyersfan Oh boy - the sequential manual transmission. Otherwise known as "Your 16 year old driving stick the first time is smoother" transmission. I know automakers were trying new things out around this time and seeing what would stick (hint: the dual clutches won out), but even in testing, the Toyota engineers should have said いいえ、ジャンクです。(No. It's a piece of junk.) Is this seller going to get $8500? Doubt it. Way too much interior work is needed and it just looks worn out in there. St. Petersburg - salt air year round can do some wonders under the cover as well. But the exterior still looks good which makes me thing it was garage kept. So, for $8,500 - no chance. But for maybe $5,500 to $6,000 and the buyer doesn't mind some extra work to clean up the interior, maybe a decent top down sun down fun car. Just hope the transmission holds up.