By on February 11, 2015

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29 Comments on “While You Were Sleeping: February 11th, 2015...”


  • avatar
    Lie2me

    LeBron James? For a second there I thought it was the latest BTSR review ;-)

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    mjz

    Hey Derek, whatever happened to the article by you and Baruth comparing the two different versions of the Chrysler 200 rentals you each had? That was “previewed” in December, and still nothing. What’s up?

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      Shutting of Oshawa and the growth of Mexico as a North American Hub, are very much linked. I expect more US production to also head Mexico’s way

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        Please tell me about the products Oshawa is or will be losing to Mexican plants. Camaro? Equinox? Impala? Regal? Oh wait, they will all go to US, Canadian, or German plants.

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          Oh no, you didn’t?…

          *sigh*

          … now you’ve done it

        • 0 avatar
          RobertRyan

          Who knows, it appears more and more Canadian and U.S. Automotive production is moving to Mexico. What products is up the Companies

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            “What products is up the Companies”

            See, gibberish, told you

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            Oh we have the UAW getting its panties in a knot, when the word production is mentioned

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            Not only am I UAW, but I’m also a conservative communist hipster fascist Episcopalian, who eats Aussies for breakfast

            Deal with it

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            No your just a UAW troll, no problem there

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            You have the IQ of a doorknob, what’s your point?

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan


            That article doesn’t have anything to do with the production shift away from Oshawa.”

            More the general shift of production to Mexico. Oshawa is one plant already affected

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            @lie2me
            Oh the UAW in you comes out now, doesn’t it? No industry knowledge at all, just a Troll

          • 0 avatar
            tresmonos

            RR: Take your Metamucil and go back to your sh1t for brains macroeconomics rants.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan


            RR: Take your Metamucil and go back to your sh1t for brains macroeconomics rants.”

            Not very observant, wrong Australian. Well I have managed to upset the shop floor today

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            bball40dtw

            I’ll try one more time.

            Oshawa is being affected more by GM consolidating it’s platforms and large sedans becoming less popular than the continued movement of manufacturing to Mexico.

            Since 2002, or so, for the W-body and 2009 for the Zeta, those platforms have only been built in Oshawa for the NA market (besides the small amount of Ausralian imports for the Zeta sedans). Now those products that only Oshawa built, have moved to other platforms that are built in other factories.

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            What you’re missing is that Aussie Bob here is under the impression that his beloved Holden has failed because of mismanagement from the US, a strong Aussie dollar and lower cost markets abroad.

            What he doesn’t realize is that the Aussie car production industry has tanked because it could not survive without being propped up by tariffs and subsidies. He would like to believe that the US and Canada auto plants are headed down the same path, even though the US and Canada continue to have a combined market of 350 million people while Australia will remain a low-population backwater. Not much in common with each other at all.

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            RobertRyan

            ” Oshawa is being affected more by GM consolidating it’s platforms and large sedans becoming less popular than the continued movement of manufacturing to Mexico.”
            I think the overall change in tastes and the movement to Mexico will affect NA production. Not a good look , but it appears at this stage to be gaining in momentum.. A poster said NA consumers do not care where a vehicle is made, well at least cars anyway

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            Yes I agree your Union claptrap is totally senseless. GM is basically doomed as it stands and nothing you say is going to save it in Australia

    • 0 avatar

      They’re still coming. Frankly, I’ve had more reviews than I know what to do with, and scheduling them has been a headache. Just wait till you see what we’re reviewing next week…

      Hint, it’s the only Raptor that came without leather seats.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Kia should call it the “King James” edition and then film all the sad faced holy rollers who find out its not THAT King James. ;-)

  • avatar
    TMA1

    LeBron’s got the best seat in the K9. There’s actually a control on the rear console to move the front passenger seat around, so there’s more legroom in the rear. He’ll need it.

  • avatar
    mikey

    Oshawa GM….full disclosure. I’m retired hourly UAW/CAW. Take this to the bank. The decision to keep, or close Oshawa, has been made.

    In the latest press release, GM has made reference to “over all costs” and making decisions based on the info they have at hand…bla bla bla.

    Right in plain language, that’s telling the three levels of government “heres a ball do you guys want to play” The press release goes onto say “we won’t make any decision until late 2016 after we make a deal with UNIFOR” By late 2016 the Flex has only the Caddy ATX and the overflow Impala from Michigan. Not enough to keep one shift going. In plain language, GM has thrown another ball to UNIFOR ” if you guys want a product, you had better make a deal, and make it now”

    We have a federal election coming, Canadian elections are won, or lost in Ontario. You can bet Stephen Harper has his check book out already. The province is broke and in deep debt, Kathy Wynne has no qualms about maxing out the provincial credit card, to stop another manufacturing operation, from leaving.

    So lets suppose that UNFOR agrees to bite the bullet. The Feds, and the Province, cough up some dough. GM will then magically produce a product. Or GM can say f— you Canada were going home? They might, but I doubt. If they did, I sure wouldn’t want to be one of those dealers with a 4 million dollar renovation loan, that GM forced them into.

    We Canadians, can be a little nasty, we don’t like being f—ed around. Consumer backlash does happen. Ask Target stores, or Outback restaurants , Dunkin donuts. They all come up here , and took us for fools, We chased their sorry a$$ back down to the USA.If GM pulls the plug on GM Canada. It would be a great time to be a Honda or Toyota dealer. The Ford and Dodge dealers will be ordering every truck they can get, maybe they can use the closed GM dealer lots to park their inventory

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