Turn Down Your Volume And Watch This Porsche Off-Roading Video

by Jack Baruth

August 30th, 2012 3:58 PM

Lost in all the hysteria which surrounds the VW Type 1 and its descendants is the fact that Dr. Porsche chose a rear-engined car at least partly for reasons of traction and mobility. The roads of post-Great War Europe weren’t all butter-smooth Autobahnen, you see.

Porsche’s marketing machine would have you believe that you need to buy a Cayenne to drive over a speedbump, but as you can see in this video, a 1983 911SC with some chunky tires can do the business. Check it out… but turn down the volume on your computer, the soundtrack is by “DISTURBD” or “STAIND” or some other group of no-talent djent-whackers.

#Porsche #Porsche911 #Porsche911sc #PorscheOff-road #WhoTheF***WouldBuyACayenneIfYouCanDoThisStuff

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01 ZX3 on Aug 30, 2012

Did Disturbed or Staind offend you in some way in the past Baruth?

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Ciddyguy on Aug 30, 2012

This video was pretty cool and I had no issue with the music, loud, yes, compressed to within an inch of its life, definitely yes, but it's dynamic compression for the sake of loudness and nothing more, much like techno, though this isn't quite that. As for less than good driving conditions, the very early automobiles had no paved roads to drive on, and the very earliest coast to coast car road trip took place in 1903 in a red Windsor Touring, I think it was, and took 63 days to complete, and it was a 2WD car with tall, uber skinny tires and lots of mud, ruts and block and tackles to get to their destination. Car travel with largely paved roads didn't become common until the late teens and into the 20's.

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NMGOM on Aug 31, 2012

The video was astonishing, as was the accomplishment of that Porsche. And the Porsche can be an on-road champ as well. I began to feel sorry for all the Jeep Wrangler fans (having been one)..... But this has shown me two things: 1) 4WD/AWD may be overrated. A decent rear-biased weight-balance with good suspension and fat /aggressive rear tires can do 90% of what 4WD can do. For example, in winter conditions, Mike Miller, writing for Roundel Magazine, has always maintained that a 2WD BMW with Blizzak winter tires on all 4 wheels can perform equally as well as (or better than) the "x" version of the same car that uses all-season tires. 2) Experienced, skillful driving in ANY vehicle can go a long way toward not getting stuck. In fact some results are surprising. In 1972, my cousin and I took an off-road trip up a boulder-filled creek bed with a Ford Bronco in Colorado to reach a special little waterfall. What did we find at our destination hours later? A bloody Cadillac! Don't even ask. But the occupants were certainly smiling at our incredulity! (No, there was no other way to get in there, except by helicopter...) -------------

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- Th009 on Aug 31, 2012
  
  But why would you compare a 2WD version of the car on snow tires with the AWD version on all-seasons? Is there something that's incompatible between AWD and snow tires? Do people really see snow tires and AWD as mutually exclusive alternatives? At least up here in the (soon to be) frozen north, the use of snow tires is steadily increasing, including use on AWD models.
  
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- Vyk on Aug 31, 2012
  
  th009, strangely enough, a lot of people I meet do seem to see it that way. "I don't need snow tires, I have AWD!" The only reasoning I can understand for this is if people draw a parallel between the cost of buying snow tires and the cost of buying AWD and figure if they've done the latter they shouldn't have to spend the money on the former. Also, NMGOM, fat may not be the way to go for snow tires. Conventional wisdom that I've heard over the years is that a narrower tire is better in snow. If you compare WRC tarmac, gravel, and snow tires, you'll see that they seem to follow that pattern. (My own experience agrees as well, but I'd say WRC is better evidence!)
  
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- NMGOM on Aug 31, 2012
  
  th009 and vyk.... Please note that I said "winter" tires, and not "snow" tires. Modern tires for us Northern inhabitants who must deal with driving December through March have evolved greatly over the years. Those tires are no longer just deep-cut, land-and-groove designs with summer rubber: the current extensive use of sipes coupled with silica gel and "sticky" compounds make for much greater traction, especially on ice and thin films of snow or even slushy water. Hence, the old rule of "thinner tires = better traction", really applies to thick, deep snow much more than ice or snow films. For that driving situation, larger tires give more contact area for friction; and yes, thinner tires would work better in deep snow. So, what do you get? Check the area you are in and estimate the type of winter conditions you most anticipate that you'll drive in.** No, 4WD/AWD are not incompatible with using winter tires. But they don't get used! Reason: it's psychological. Many people think that just because they have all-season tires and 4WD/AWD, they have done all they need to do; are invulnerable; and have escaped this nasty (and expensive) chore of changing wheels and tires every spring and fall. I had commuted though amazing winter stuff for 22 years. The first cars that were off the road were small FWD cars; the 2nd most prevalent were large SUV'S! Go figure. I attribute the first to the lack of feeling with FWD: you don't easily know how close you are to the limit. I attribute the 2nd group to over-confidence, excess speed for conditions, and the use of all-season tires. Here's the funny part: the cars that were NEVER off the road were old-fashioned, big, RWD American sedans and station wagons..why is that? (Maybe the fact that they start fish-tailing a bit when things get slippery is an automatic "canary-in-the-gold-mine" that tells the driver to slow down...) ** If you check the Tire Rack website, you'll see that, for Winter performance, tires are rated in categories of "Light Snow", "Deep Snow", and "Ice Traction". They are all different, and a good tire for "Deep Snow" may NOT be ideal for "Ice Traction", for example. -----------------
  
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Alwaysinthecar on Aug 31, 2012

I didn't know that rednecks were into German cars.....

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