New or Used: Advising the Advisor for Financial Success
As a long time reader and a new financial advisor, I am seeking advice from you and your readers concerning choices for a second-hand automobile. Here are the constraints:
1) $10,000 or less
2) Would prefer avoiding GM & Chrysler
3) 4-doors required (for clients and/or two under-five children)
4) Reasonable annual maintenance
5) Sporty OK but not flashy — message is ”prudently successful” not ”mid-life crisis on the client’s dime”
6) I’m a 47 year-old, married, 2 children, in southwestern Connecticut.
As a starting point, I see this as two basic options — Audi/BMW/Acura on the sporty side or Mercedes sedan on the prudent side. Which cars(year/make/model) do you or your readers suggest I consider? Thanks!
I suggest you take as much equity in the prior owner as you do the car. ‘Sporty’ cars like the ones you mentioned are very sensitive to wear and maintenance. German luxury cars that typically hit the 10k echelon are about 7 to 9 years old and have about 80k to 140k on them. Depending on the model.
I know there are a lot of fans of the 3-Series, A4 and C-Class. Well at least the first two. However the 5-Series, A6 and E-Class may be better options. But I won’t recommend them either because I find most European cars from the 2001 to 2003 era to be absolute buggy pieces of crap. Cheap to maintain they are not.
My choice of imaginary frugality and fun would be a 2005 Nissan Altima with the 3.5 Liter V6. You would likely have one with around 70k to 80k. I would opt straight for one from a prior owner (not the dealer) and have it examined at an independent shop. Other folks may recommend the Mazda 6 or even an earlier gen Ford Fusion. Both are fine cars. I don’t care. At least I’m not recommending a Grand Marquis with Flowmasters. In the end you should test all three along with a few others and see which one fits your version of ‘prudently successful’.
Damn son, now I gotta recommend a Grand Marquis with flowbastards? Maybe not, even if it’s more reasonable than believing a $10,000 budget gets you a “prudent” Mercedes Benz product.
So go for the unknown, forgotten luxury tools of the trade. The older Acura TL/RL bodystyles are a great fit, even with some vintages suffering from automatic transmission concerns from their high(er) horsepower V6 engines. The Jaguar S-type and Lincoln LS certainly fit the price point and performance/style quotient, but that’s a slippery slope when considering upkeep. Perhaps a Lincoln Zephyr (not MKZ, too spendy) or a Hyundai Azera/XG after a little de-badging? Probably not.
My pick? The Lexus ES, 2001 or older. This body style gets better with age, and doesn’t bring about the obligatory Camry references. Yet, under the financial advisor approved skin, this is still a cheap and cheerful Camry from the good old days of Toyota. Find one with service receipts for plenty of oil changes for a sludge-proof reputation and you will be set for years to come.
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