Quote Of The Day: Hyundai Disses GM Without Even Mentioning GM

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt
quote of the day hyundai disses gm without even mentioning gm

“Hyundai Motor Co. and its affiliate Kia Motors Corp. sold a combined 1.1 million vehicles in China last year, becoming the second largest auto seller in Asia’s biggest car market, the companies said yesterday.

This today in the Korea JoongAng Daily, and in case you’ve never heard of them, they are an associate of the Herald Tribune. Now why should this be a slap in the face of GM?

Well, after relating that Hyundai’s Beijing unit, Beijing Hyundai Motor, sold 700,000 locally manufactured units in China, and that Dongfeng Yueda Kia sold 330,000 units, and that including sales of imported Hyundai and Kia cars, Hyundai Motor Group sold 1.1 million units, Hyundai told the JoongAn that Hyundai is “trailing only Volkswagen Group” in China.

This must certainly be a misunderstanding, no? No, it’s intentional:

“Achieving 9 percent market share and the status of the No. 2 car seller in just the nine years since our 2002 entrance into China is just a miracle,” an official for the two affiliated carmakers told the paper.

Hyundai number 2 and Volkswagen number 1? What about GM? Well, let’s look at the numbers:

  • Let’s take Hyundai’s numbers at face value, it’s their cars.
  • There are no year-end numbers from Volkswagen or GM yet, so let’s go back to November.
  • By November, “VW’s 11-month deliveries in the world’s largest car market advanced 38 percent to 1.82 million vehicles,” Bloomberg had reported. But what about GM?
  • GM had announced last month, that “for the first 11 months as a whole, sales by GM and its joint ventures in China were up 32.7 percent on an annual basis to 2,172,395 units.”

And why isn’t that making GM the number one in China? Apparently, Hyundai doesn’t buy into the number and discounts the more than a million Wuling delivery vans that fatten GM China’s numbers.

Or maybe Hyundai got sidetracked by this story: “Shanghai GM has become the first passenger car manufacturer in China to sell 1 million vehicles in a single year.” Released by GM China on December 12. We’ve told you it would confuse everybody.

Be it as it may: Scrappy Hyundai is eating GM’s lunch in the world’s (and GM’s) largest and most dynamic car market, at least in passenger car sales. Who would have thunk that?

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  • DR1665 DR1665 on Jan 03, 2011

    Wait. GM moved 1,000,000 delivery vans as part of that number? Sounds like more fleet sales blather. Go Hyundai.

  • Wsn Wsn on Jan 03, 2011

    I will have to side with Hyundai here. Kia is a commonly recognized brand of the Hyundai group. However, WuLing is not a core (or for that matter, non-core) brand of GM. I would treat those sales as non-GM, as long as the vans don't use a Chevrolet or Buick or GMC badge.

    • Steven02 Steven02 on Jan 03, 2011

      So what is commonly recognized is more important than actual ownership? I guess we shouldn't let the facts get in the way of judgement. Commonly recognized varies from person to person too. Say that I am not familiar with Skoda being owned by VW because Skoda isn't available in the US. Does it mean that VW shouldn't count them? I mean it is 100% owned by VW. GM has been counting Wuling for awhile now and just got the contractual go ahead to count them as their own sales. Why shouldn't GM be allowed to count them? Hyundai's ownership of Kia is right there with GM's of Wuling when you look at the percentages.

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