GM Out Of Control In China, India

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt

China and the world are waiting for a press conference to be held at 5pm local time (0900 zulu,) for which GM is promising “some important GM news,” relating to SAIC, says Reuters. Nick Reilly will take time off from restructuring Opel, and will personally host the conference.

It is widely expected that GM will cede control of the 50:50 China joint venture by selling 1 percent to SAIC. They will also most likely announce that GM will transfer half of GM’s India operations to the Chinese company.

According to Gasgoo’s sources, SAIC will have “a controlling stake in GM’s flagship venture in its fastest-growing market. However, GM would retain equal voting rights in company decisions. SAIC could pay up to 20 percent of the joint venture value to take control, while GM would have the option of buying back the stake later at a premium.”

GM is now mortgaging its second-most important market, China. By the looks of it, China will soon buy more GM vehicles than the USA.

India is (rightly or wrongly) seen as the “next China” as far as growth markets go, and auto manufacturers are falling over themselves carving out a share of the pie. GM doesn’t have much of a share. India is owned by Suzuki. In August of this year, GM had abandoned plans to get 10 percent market share in India by 2010, because “the economic downturn has forced us to go for a change of plans. We are now re-scheduling the target till 2011.” In 2008, the Indian automobile industry ranked as the ninth largest in the world with an annual production of over 2.3 million units. With more than 1.15b people, India is the second most populous nation on the planet, behind China. By handing a large chunk of its (future) Indian business to China’s SAIC, GM is admitting defeat, or is minimizing its potential in one of the world’s few growth markets, or is admitting that they don’t have the money to develop that market, or all of the above.

What’s more, SAIC is flexing its muscles. It’s telling its weakened partner who’s really boss on this side of the globe.

Bertel Schmitt
Bertel Schmitt

Bertel Schmitt comes back to journalism after taking a 35 year break in advertising and marketing. He ran and owned advertising agencies in Duesseldorf, Germany, and New York City. Volkswagen A.G. was Bertel's most important corporate account. Schmitt's advertising and marketing career touched many corners of the industry with a special focus on automotive products and services. Since 2004, he lives in Japan and China with his wife <a href="http://www.tomokoandbertel.com"> Tomoko </a>. Bertel Schmitt is a founding board member of the <a href="http://www.offshoresuperseries.com"> Offshore Super Series </a>, an American offshore powerboat racing organization. He is co-owner of the racing team Typhoon.

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  • Bunter1 Bunter1 on Dec 04, 2009

    And if (when?) things continue to slide in Yurp and NA does the strong partner continue to gobble up little (big?) pieces of the former empire? One wonders how the "patiotic" fans of GM might react if the corporation was Chinese controlled. Bunter

  • Rnc Rnc on Dec 04, 2009

    My question is - The JV's are not allowed to export from China (domestic only), does SAIC owning 51% change the way the entity is recognized and allow for exports? And yes SAIC is paying quite a lot for thier 1%, the money is for Opel and Daewoo (would you rather finance yourself or have multiple government hands holding the wheel along with you, think they have already learned that lesson from the German government)

    • Bertel Schmitt Bertel Schmitt on Dec 04, 2009

      rnc: Where did you read that JV's are only allowed to export if the Chinese hold more than 51%? AFAIK, this has nothing to do with it. The "no export" clause (without the other side agreeing to it) is usually part of the contract between the two JV partners. It protects the foreign JV partner from a flood of their own cars made abroad. The Chinese government would be overjoyed if there would be more exports, even if the JV partner would hold only 1%. I know from my buddies at VW that there are small scale trial exports (to Australia, Northern Africa) happening, and they sure don't have a problem with that alleged clause.

  • MrIcky Having worked several catastrophes for insurance, the following "The bottom line is that if the insurance agency can find ways not to cover the car, they probably won’t." just isn't the way it works. The insurance company will have some drop off areas where cars will be brought. The adjuster will check for water height and draw a line at the high water point with a posca marker. If that line is generally over the electronics- bam, it's totaled, if you have comprehensive they look up your car on KBB and/or NADA by mileage and write a check. Most comprehensive vehicle policies look almost exactly the same-at least for "standard" carriers. If the water line isn't over the electronics, then it generally goes to a shop to get tested. You aren't going to get gamed for a car in a cat loss scenario because there just isn't time to f'with it. After a Houston flooding event I worked 16 hour days for 2 weeks under a big tent like you'd set up for a wedding and went over nearly 100 cars/day taking pictures and sorting them into total or check with mechanic "piles". Most people who had totaled vehicles had a check within 20 minutes of me looking at their car. Buildings on the other hand have all sorts of different terms (commercial or consumer) with regard to how the wind or water entered your building and whether coverage applies.
  • Theflyersfan Well, Milton just went from a tropical storm to 175mph in less than a day so this guy means business. Even if it weakens a little bit, it'll expand and pretty much all of Florida south of Jacksonville is going to feel something. Everyone who saw that disaster in the NC/VA/TN mountains before Helene's landfall is either from the future or a liar (and that includes the insurance companies) because heavy rain started well before the storm arrived and then the crazy thing just sat in that general area. My part of Kentucky - it didn't stop raining for almost five days. And now this nuclear bomb of a hurricane. I understand Florida has a high percentage of homeowners without insurance because they can no longer afford it. My parents have a home near Naples and they carry extra flood and wind coverage and that costs well over five digits per year. Home renovations about 8-9 years ago gave them the chance to make hurricane-proof changes like lashing the roof and hurricane windows. It survived the direct hit from Irma and the heavy punch from Ian so they worked. After this storm, I don't know how Florida will totally recover. Much like California and the earthquakes and firestorms, there might have to be a "Come to Jesus" talk with the perils of living in Florida. I'm already making plans to head down there post-storm if the roads or airport is open in the days following landfall to help cleanup and rebuild any part of the home that might need it. In the short term, if it hasn't happened already, gas prices are probably going to rocket upwards as the oil rigs in the Gulf shut down and prepare. And if this storm directly hits Tampa/St Pete, it's going to be game over in those cities for a while. And imagine if the storm at this power was aiming towards New Orleans or Miami.
  • Jalop1991 "...leaving Doherty and his passenger to be pulled from the wreck by passersby." Or not. I would get a HUGE laugh out of seeing a video of passersby with their phones whipped out, recording it and doing nothing else.
  • Jalop1991 Hey, as soon as the water drains Stellantis will have lots of empty dealer lots to stash their cars on.
  • Mike Beranek Usually, those of us from Salt country will travel down south to find a used car that hasn't been exposed and "won't" rust. At least not right away, like a used car from up here.Now maybe the tables have turned. Will we be seeing lots of rusty cars from states that begin with a vowel running around down south?
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