By on October 7, 2009

The cheese stands alone...

Fritz Henderson just confirmed in a conference call that GM’s VP for US Sales Mark LaNeve will be leaving the company by October 15. An email by Henderson obtained by the Detroit News, makes it clear just how long LaNeve outstayed his welcome. There’s damning with faint praise and then there’s this:

Mark has contributed significantly to GM in several key positions, including transforming the Cadillac brand and leading the vehicle sales, service and marketing organization during one of the most challenging periods in GM’s history. Please join me in thanking Mark for his dedication and wishing him and his family well. A replacement for Mark will be named at a later date

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68 Comments on “Mark LaNeve To Leave General Motors...”


  • avatar
    mattstairs

    Wow. Maybe GM’s going to finally start clearing out the dead wood.

  • avatar
    JSF22

    OK, maybe they’re not so stupid after all.

  • avatar
    MontanaVista

    So a group of idiots got rid of one idiot.. It still sounds like a group of idiots to me.

  • avatar
    bomberpete

    There is a God! Or at least Whiteacre has a set and so does his BOD.

    And chill out, MontanaVista. There’s no pleasing some people. This is a key move by GM. I doubt there’s a ton of top talent beating down GM’s door for THAT job!

  • avatar
    TomH

    The challenge will be finding someone competent to actually do that job.

    Would you want to work for Ron Bloom?

  • avatar
    htrodblder

    Right now about 1400 “wind down” dealers are clapping. I have never seen a more anti dealer employee in GM’s history.

  • avatar
    rnc

    Theres a rumor (a story in forbes or business week) that at the first BOD meeting with the new board, that one of them told Henderson that he’s basically on a real short leash and a really short time frame, to which henderson replied “I’m not going to lose any sleep over that”, to which whitaker replied “you better”. This is a man who has never lost in business, who transformed the second smallest of the baby bells into the largest telecom company in the world, do you think he’s just going to let GM management mess up his reputation (and ego is a big part of this)? There will be a new CEO after the beginning of the year (and it won’t be lutz)

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    FINAllY!!!!!!

    Ring the Church bells!

    Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope his utterly undeserved golden parachute, if any, is the SMALL-EST size.

  • avatar
    rpol35

    He clearly got the heave-ho! Refreshing move in my estimation as all of his endless happy horse$hit about how “good things really are” was contrived at best. It’s a typical chiesling, corporate, sad-sack crapfest the way mega-organizations don’t admit what’s wrong and then detail a believeable, effective plan to fix the myriad of problems. This guy was clearly not on the solution side of the equation.

    Now if only Fritz could take the hint……

  • avatar
    superbadd75

    aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! HOORAY!! This is an awesome day, and maybe this is truly an indication that GM’s getting their heads right. AWESOME!!

  • avatar
    MontanaVista

    I actually was pleased to hear this.. and I generally like GM products. Its about time they made a step like this. But I do believe there is still a lot of heads to cut. Is the creator of the Pontiac G5 still employed? That’s a good place to start too.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    TomH :
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:08 am

    The challenge will be finding someone competent to actually do that job.”

    If you close your eyes and pick the first human being you touch, it is 100% guaranteed that this random person will do a better job than that monkey!

  • avatar
    rmwill

    The real test will be if they broom Susan “Hummer” Docherty and her hangers on. They are the real cancer in the GM Marketing organization. Everyone needs to go back and watch the Autoline Detroit episode where Susan and her skirt club pat themselves on the back for the “successes” at Hummer. It’s pretty eye opening.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    They won’t have LaNeve to kick around anymore…

  • avatar
    jkross22

    While long overdue, good move. How many more need to be expeditiously shown the door? NONE of the current ‘management’ should be there since they went through an alleged bankruptcy.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “The real test will be if they broom Susan “Hummer” Docherty and her hangers on. They are the real cancer in the GM Marketing organization. Everyone needs to go back and watch the Autoline Detroit episode where Susan and her skirt club pat themselves on the back for the “successes” at Hummer. It’s pretty eye opening.”

    So true! ISn’s she at Buick now? Maybe better to keep here there a few months so it can run that pathetic brand into the ground and then fire her. Two birds with one stone.

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    Hummer was initially a success, then the world changed. But Susan Docherty wasn’t there for the formative period, and did little if anything to shape Hummer. She arrived in 2005.

  • avatar
    panzerfaust

    “They won’t have LaNeve to kick around anymore…”

    They’ve still got the shareholders to kick around.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    You mean the US TAXPAYER! WE own GM now…

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    Michael Karesh :
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Hummer was initially a success,

    Hummer was an idiotic FAD. It came and went. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    If GAS was PROPERLY priced and NOT dirt-cheap in the USA, we would NOT have such automotive atrocities driven around by morons that only needed a minivan or a coupe or a sedan.

  • avatar
    Rod Panhard

    October 15 is pretty soon. That still gives Mr. LaNeve time to get hired on as temporary holiday help at any of a jillion retailers. That should help with bills until something else comes along.

  • avatar
    Mark MacInnis

    Kind of like one person jumping (or being pushed) off the Titanic….it didn’t change the outcome for that ship, and won’t change GM’s fate one jot or tittle…..C7 in 2011, unless the weak-kneed wimpy Democrats throw good money after bad to keep GM afloat…..

  • avatar
    nevets248

    He’ll probably join that other ultimate douchebag, Bob Kraut, at Pizza Hut.
    Christmas DID come early this year!

  • avatar
    windswords

    I haven’t felt this good since Trevor Creed was “retired” from Chrysler.

  • avatar

    Autosavant,

    If we restricted buying to those items that people actually need…

  • avatar
    jkumpire

    Autosavant,

    Sorry to interrupt the celebration, but:

    Can I have some of what you are smoking these days?

    Where did you learn about basic economics? $5/gal gas will just destroy more of the US Economy, and there is no reason why gas is now as expensive as it is.

    Well, there is a reason, but I am not sure you would want to own up to supporting those who cause the problem.

  • avatar
    highrpm

    Yes, he’s gone. But the guy is certainly getting a fabulous and underserved golden parachute.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “jkumpire :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Can I have some of what you are smoking these days?”

    I never smoked anything in my entire life, except for unwanted second hand smoke 40 years ago. How about YOU?

    “Where did you learn about basic economics?”

    Since you asked, From THREE,NOT just ONE, NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS at MIT, “the” MIT.

    How about YOU? And do not lie, we will see thru it immediately.

    ” $5/gal gas will just destroy more of the US Economy, and there is no reason why gas is now as expensive as it is.”

    1. The US $ is worthless, $5 is worth less than $1 in the 70s, when you could buy a Mustang for $2-3k!!! I would like to see MUCH MORE than $5, but it will not happen, as the peak oil mORONS do not know what they are talkign about, never did, and there is plenty of the stuff, and will last three lifetimes, not just decades, from now.

    2. I always propose a HUGE tax on gas, ONLY if it is OFFSET by an equal tax CUT elsewhere. I am fully aware of the implications for the economy.

    3. Today’s prices are indeed DIRT CHEAP, and by that very fact, they will, by their cheapness, produce extra demand, or not sufficient reduction of US demand, which, in concert with the inevitable Chinese Demand continued rise, go back to $5 and $10 in worthless US dollars before you know it. AND the worst part it, if we TAXED IT NOW, we would keep most of the $ in the US economy, WHILE, if you wait it to get to $10 because of the chinese demand rise, all of the $10 will go to the sheicks that fund the terrorists that want to Kill YOU and all the rest of US.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “# Michael Karesh :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Autosavant,

    If we restricted buying to those items that people actually need…”

    I would NEVER advocate any restrictions. $10 gas should do it.

    And it is VERY different when somebody wants a 911 or a Ferrari and some idiot that wants a POS Hummer Automotive Atrocity to pretend he is macho or something.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “And it is VERY different when somebody wants a 911 or a Ferrari and some idiot that wants a POS Hummer Automotive Atrocity to pretend he is macho or something.”

    and the difference is, Automotive Literacy.

  • avatar
    rnc

    Where did you learn about basic economics? $5/gal gas will just destroy more of the US Economy, and there is no reason why gas is now as expensive as it is.

    Its called taxes to pay for the infrastructure that what gas goes in is intended to use rather than just using debt (gas is actually dirt cheap here). All $5 gas will do is move people to smaller cars (which all of the automakers are now planning on) and a tax will stabalize the economy, not wreck it, imagine knowing what it coming and planning for it vs. trying to guess when there is a million factors outside your control.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Autosavant :
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    You mean the US TAXPAYER! WE own GM now…

    Which is why all the GM-bashing makes so much sense, right?

    I’m not naive enough to think we’ll get all our money back out of GM, but this much I can guarantee you: a complete failure will ensure we get NONE of it out.

    So, do we cut our nose off to spite our face, or do we get over it and decide to do what we can to help them? Common sense dictates the latter course of action here.

  • avatar
    menno

    Well, autosavant, considering that it is a widely recognized fact (albeit after-the-fact) that the United States did in fact have peak-oil occur in about 1970, and that this is one reason we are in the fix we are in – importing oil from/sending money to those who hate us – I can’t completely dismiss global peak oil. We just “suspect” that it was hit in 2008. We’ll know for sure within a decade – just as the real US peak was surmised after-the-fact. And nobody believed the oil scientists in the 1960’s when he predicted it for the US either.

    But you have an interesting point about increasing fuel taxes.

    Let me give you these rebuttals, however.

    a. I’ve lived in the UK and despite watching prices of fuel skyrocket over the decades there, car use increased as the people became more affluent. As my ex-Brit wife would say, entirely dismissing your argument, people don’t stop having the freedom of a car when they’ve had it, if at all possible. They just pay and complain.

    b. Governments have a nasty habit of lying – in fact, generally speaking if a politician is moving his or her lips, he/she is lying.

    Michigan politicians wanted 6% sales tax instead of 4% – promising to reduce property taxes “in exchange”. It required a vote of the people to do it, because of the state Constitution. Well, that worked out for about a year, then property taxes went up more than they’d gone down.

    $4.25 a gallon gas in 2008 is one of many reasons why the US economy is collapsed. Not the only reason. But it surely didn’t help. You might say it was a fulcrum point on which the lever of destruction was used.

    The Big O’s plan to tax CO2 is going to add over 50% to a gallon of gas for Americans, hopefully that’ll make you happy.

    So if the US economy un-tanks and gas demand goes up, and fuel returns to $5 a gallon, instead it’ll be $7.50 a gallon and we’ll have the same depression cycle start over again.

    That’ll do wonders for the world economy, eh?

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Autosavant :
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    If GAS was PROPERLY priced and NOT dirt-cheap in the USA, we would NOT have such automotive atrocities driven around by morons that only needed a minivan or a coupe or a sedan.

    OK, but who made you the arbiter of peoples’ automotive needs?

  • avatar

    LaNeves job was thankless and hopeless after $4+ gas and GMNA and Detroit had very little product that anybody could have sold. Still dont by and large. Gas at $2.50 is just a temporary recessionary illusion and as soon as the world recovers itll be headed up again.

    Can, will Detroit make the smaller engines that will be required?? That means minimal V8s and even V6s. Im not holding MY breath.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Autosavant :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    “And it is VERY different when somebody wants a 911 or a Ferrari and some idiot that wants a POS Hummer Automotive Atrocity to pretend he is macho or something.”

    and the difference is, Automotive Literacy.

    No, it’s called “it’s my money and I’ll spend it on whatever car I please.”

  • avatar
    pmd1966

    Can TTAC start a letter writing campaign to have Obama install Autosavant as the “What you NEED czar”? Just think, no more shopping for a car. Just fill out a form stating your annual mileage,
    number of people in your family, and a few other things and a new car would be delivered to your home complete with payment booklet. To Hell with what you want, we will send you what you need.

  • avatar
    geeber

    autosavant: If GAS was PROPERLY priced and NOT dirt-cheap in the USA, we would NOT have such automotive atrocities driven around by morons that only needed a minivan or a coupe or a sedan.

    Considering that gasoline is taxed at a lower rate in the U.S. than in Europe, it’s obvious that gasoline prices more truly reflect the market price over here.

    autosavant: and the difference is, Automotive Literacy.

    Does “automotive literacy” lead one to recommend the unreliable, expensive-to-repair BMW 7-Series and Mercedes S Class over a Panther-platform Ford or old Buick to someone looking for cheap, reasonably reliable and comfortable transportation?

    That is certainly not the way most of us would see it…

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “menno :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Well, autosavant, considering that it is a widely recognized fact (albeit after-the-fact) that the United States did in fact have peak-oil occur in about 1970,”

    HOW THE HELL DOES ANYBODY KNOW, including you and me????????

    We are STILL drillign sand discovering oil, you and nobody ELSE can PROVE to me that we indeed reached the PEAK in 1970 andf that ther ewill not be ANOTHER peak that is EVEN HIGHER than the 1970 peak, which is only a LOCAL peak, if you know anything about optimization of a function in math.

    On the conrtary, I can PROVE to you that these peak oil CHARLATANS have been predicting WORLD (not Just US!!!) Peak oil production for DECADES now, and every single one of the predictions was UTTERLY WRONG, and th ecorrupt media, the gloom andf doom FOOLS that invite them, NEVER hold their failed predictions to account.

    The ARROGANCE of these peak oil CHARLATANS is mond-boggling, and their illiteracy too. But if you want to believe them, fine with me, because if you really believe them, you will cut down your oil consumption, of course, and make gas cheaper for all of us, and more plentiful!

    ” and that this is one reason we are in the fix we are in – importing oil from/sending money to those who hate us – I can’t completely dismiss global peak oil. ”

    Our UNCONVENTIONAL oil alone, the proved reserves, is greater than Saudi Arabia’S conventional oil FOUR TIMES OVER!!! (TRillions of barrels!) but unlike Canada, which will produce 4 million barrels a day from its oil sands, we do NOT exploit these resources (most are in the ROckies and in Natl parks or other protected Govt areas)

  • avatar

    @Autosavant: Only Communists trust politicians to spend their money well. (ask psharninja)

    I’m not a real fan of Hummers either, but I would never presume to tell/legislate to other people what they can and cannot buy, either directly or indirectly (through crazy fuel taxes).

    As for the US $ being ‘worthless’ viz the 70s, there’s this thing called ‘Inflation’ that usually accompanies all economic growth.

    (and yes, it affects all world economies)

    -But continue complaining you can’t get a Coke for a Nickle anymore, if you like.


    Otherwise: Yay for Mark!
    -I hear they’re phasing out the Sales Department entirely and he’s the first to go!

    SALES?!!! WE DON’T NEED NO STEENKING SALES!!!

  • avatar
    Robert Schwartz

    “I’m not naive enough to think we’ll get all our money back out of GM, but this much I can guarantee you: a complete failure will ensure we get NONE of it out.”

    GM was a complete failure when the Feds bailed it out. The management that had failed should have been removed then. Doing it one guy at a time now is too little, too late. GM will be liquidated when ever the Feds stop throwing money at it. The taxpayers will get nothing for it.

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “geeber :
    October 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    autosavant: If GAS was PROPERLY priced and NOT dirt-cheap in the USA, we would NOT have such automotive atrocities driven around by morons that only needed a minivan or a coupe or a sedan.

    Considering that gasoline is taxed at a lower rate in the U.S. than in Europe, it’s obvious that gasoline prices more truly reflect the market price over here.”

    WHat the hell are you talking about???? You obviously never heard of EXTERNALITIES in Economics? What is the TRUE cost of a gfallon of gas if you include the TRILLIONS we spend on our military safeguarding the oil transport sources and lanes, and the damage to the ENVIRONMENT? WHY should somebody ELSE pay for these so some retard cvan afford an auto illiterate Hummer Breadvan on stilts one never needed????

    “autosavant: and the difference is, Automotive Literacy.

    Does “automotive literacy” lead one to recommend the unreliable, expensive-to-repair BMW 7-Series and Mercedes S Class over a Panther-platform Ford or old Buick”

    FIRST OF, you really think your POS panther is equivalent to the DECATHLETE 7 series? You obviously never owned one, nor do you DESERVE to own one, you are better off in that god-awful Buick-Avalon-0Lexus LS460, the old lady special.

    And the 7 L version, with its huge WHEELBASE, which is what COUNTS, much longer than the domestic barges, and its heavier weight AND outstandign suspension, is FAR better on the highway than your … police cruiser. And it is FAR FAR FAR better in the city of course, and FAR better handling, no comparison!!!!

    Give me an effing break! This is like the Bizzaro world!!!

    This is getting LUDICROUS. Are you living on the same planet? Did you own dom,stic POS all your life?

    I cannot even begin to tell you how wrong you are in everything you say above.

    “to someone looking for cheap, reasonably reliable and comfortable transportation?”

    How much is your life worth? and reliable?? and comfort?????? NOT with these POS seats, I HAVE driven these cars you mention.

    PS Old 7s last for EVER, they are even better than the Japanese cars in LONGEVITY, because over in Europe people buy a car FOR LIFE and do few miles with it every year, it has to LAST. Esp. the $100k top of the line 7, and I have FOUR YEARS of happy ownership to prove it, and you only have RUMORS. And I paid $10k fo ran EXCELLENT 7 yr old 7 in 05. Now its successor is $100k new!

  • avatar
    Caraholica

    Maybe he could get some career advice from Jim Press….

  • avatar
    Autosavant

    “FreedMike :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Autosavant :
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    If GAS was PROPERLY priced and NOT dirt-cheap in the USA, we would NOT have such automotive atrocities driven around by morons that only needed a minivan or a coupe or a sedan.

    OK, but who made you the arbiter of peoples’ automotive needs?”

    1. I already have a permanent, well-paying job, with NO retirement age limit!!

    2. These are not automotive needs, SUVs and Hummers are MISUSED off-road vehicles by their clueless buyers, who never ever NEEDED them but only were nrainwashed into WANTING them by the stupid ads, AND the dirt cheap gas prices ENABLED every minimum wage mcdonalds employee to afford one-or at least a used regular SUV, not much better…!!!

    The Arbiter is the GAS PRICE. And I can lie back and wait. Either way, whether we do it the RIGHT way, and we tax the living daylights off gas , with an EQUAL tax cut to not harm the economy (will not happen, Pols are COrrupt COWARDS!),

    OR if you wait for Chinese demand to make the gas price go up to the same high level, which is WORSE, because every cent of the increase will go to the murderers of OPEC terrorist funders!!!

  • avatar
    lahru

    paging Don Ready, paging Don Ready!

    “I got hair on my balls and I sell cars, what else do you need to know”

  • avatar
    Dick

    Bout time they launched that total dirtbag.
    I wonder if there’s room on the catapult for Susan Docherty’s fat ass?

  • avatar
    John Horner

    Better late than never, I think.

    The $99B question: Who is Mark’s replacement?

    Extra Credit: When does Susan Docherty get replaced?

  • avatar
    mikey

    OK…So Mark is gone. 45% drop year to year WTF did he expect? Maybe,just maybe,the new GM has a thing called accountability.

    @autosavant …For what its worth, I don’t like your style,or your delivery. But I don’t 100% disagree with you.

  • avatar
    love2drive

    The Hummer actually was one of the few times where GM read the marketplace correctly in terms of producing what a certain market segment wanted. Their mistake was assuming that it would last, and trying to make the truck anything but a niche vehicle. Who knows if they actually recouped their costs for that, the fad ended before they were selling them for very long. It should have always been a low volume/high margin initiative, exploiting cheap gas (sure) to serve a small market segment, no different than high power muscle cars do the same. There was nothing wrong at all with the SUV craze, and I’d argue that if they could make a 50 mpg full-size SUV now, they’d sell everyone they made. Americans prefer large vehicles to travel over large spaces, that’s all.

  • avatar
    basho

    Time will tell if Mark’s removal will mean anything for GM. Chrysler bringing in Toyota’s Jim Press did little to fix it’s sales problems.

  • avatar
    mfgreen40

    What is with the posts that are all bitterness and frustration?

  • avatar
    rmwill

    I would not be surprised if Docherty gets LaNeve’s job. After all one of the surviving BOD members is this clown:

    http://www.detnews.com/article/20081206/AUTO01/812060397/Board+member+defends+Wagoner#

    Lets play GE Alum / MBA buzzword bingo… Kathryn Marinello will take on all challenges. She loved Wagoner, I bet she hearts GM’s top skirt as well.

  • avatar
    jkumpire

    Can I have some of what you are smoking these days?”

    “I never smoked anything in my entire life, except for unwanted second hand smoke 40 years ago. How about YOU?”

    Same here, I neither smoke or drink. So why in heaven’s name do you advocate such destructive policies?.

    “Where did you learn about basic economics?”

    “Since you asked, From THREE,NOT just ONE, NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS at MIT, “the” MIT.”

    Great, my undergrad and grad studies were not at MIT. Nice on the resume for you. Still disagree with you.

    ” $5/gal gas will just destroy more of the US Economy, and there is no reason why gas is now as expensive as it is.”

    1. The US $ is worthless, $5 is worth less than $1 in the 70s, when you could buy a Mustang for $2-3k!!! I would like to see MUCH MORE than $5, but it will not happen, as the peak oil mORONS do not know what they are talkign about, never did, and there is plenty of the stuff, and will last three lifetimes, not just decades, from now.

    I assume you are now done emoting. The USA is not worthless, its central government policy is, which is a large part of the problem with our economy. Agree? You are right about $5+ gasoline, it won’t happen unless the price is artificially forced up there, as it is now mostly by government policy. I agree with you about peak oil, and those who believe it.

    2. I always propose a HUGE tax on gas, ONLY if it is OFFSET by an equal tax CUT elsewhere. I am fully aware of the implications for the economy.

    If we could live in a perfect world, maybe. But, please show me a single federal tax that has been levied, then offset with a real tax reduction anywhere else. But why tax gas? Unless your sole purpose is to limit its use, which will only hurt those most dependent on cheap transportation for their livelihood?

    3. Today’s prices are indeed DIRT CHEAP, and by that very fact, they will, by their cheapness, produce extra demand, or not sufficient reduction of US demand, which, in concert with the inevitable Chinese Demand continued rise, go back to $5 and $10 in worthless US dollars before you know it. AND the worst part it, if we TAXED IT NOW, we would keep most of the $ in the US economy, WHILE, if you wait it to get to $10 because of the chinese demand rise, all of the $10 will go to the sheicks that fund the terrorists that want to Kill YOU and all the rest of US.

    With respect, gas has been at this level for months now, with little demand increase. Oil prices are a reflection of the economy, not the major price driver in the economy. I would also point out that the Chinese are busy making deals with some of its brother totalitarian states for sweetheart deals for oil for domestic consumption. There is no reason why the US can’t increase domestic production for many years, and keep the supply large and prices low except for those in Washington who care only about their personal political power, and not about the long-term economic and social health of the country.

    I enjoy the discussion.

  • avatar
    SkiD666

    To be fair, Toyota sold just as many Sequoia’s and FJ cruisers as GM sold H2’s and H3’s (and the H1 wasn’t very high volume).

    I will also assume that the reason why all the Mark LaNeve’s @ GM were not let go immediately was to give the ‘new’ GM time to find people to fill their shoes (without making the same mistakes as before). I suspect most of the management team will change before next years stock offering.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    The $99B question: Who is Mark’s replacement?

    Susan Docherty.

    No, seriously. GM is a meritocracy, in a particularly perverse way: your success depends upon what does or does not stick to you. In the case of Mark La Neve, he got as far as he did by virtue of his success at Cadillac. Whether or not he deserved that success is questionable, but part of how GM works is that promising talent is rotated through the organization, from choice appointment to appointment. If success happens while you’re at a particular position, then your karma gets a little polish and you move on to the next level; if not, well, then you sink.

    Get high enough, though, and the teflon skin becomes impervious because you have no real accountability. La Neve ought to have been the one ultimately responsible for GM’s lack of appealing product or sufficiently deep product base in North America, but instead he could cheerfully slough that off on to the lower echelons or be explained away while he road the sucess at Cadillac

    He’d likely still be there, too, if it wasn’t a choice between him or Bob Lutz.** Both of them are in the spotlight, and both of them are complicit in GM’s broken product portfolio. One of them was going to go, and Mark’s PR copy was consistently worse than Lutz’s.

    And now we have any number of people like La Neve waiting in the wings: GM’s young rockstars, fresh from the crapshoot. Docherty, if she’s lucky, will bet out of Buick and into Mark’s seat before the leather cools, let alone her failures becoming apparent. She’d get the additional benefit of being able to blame her failures on La Neve’s tenure for about two or three years.

    Of couse, GM could always go outside. I’d be impressed if they get anyone because anyone stepping into this role is going to have a world of trouble and isn’t going to be able to play the game nearly as well. GM has very little product in the pipeline and is faced with several competitors who weathered the recession in much better shape. Would you want to be VP of sales for a company with no product, no plans for future product and negative brand equity?

    ** When La Neve lost the marketing arm to Lutz it should have been obvious that his days were numbered. How Lutz kept his job I’m not sure, but I’m guessing he made fewer enemies.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    Only Communists trust politicians to spend their money well. (ask psharninja)

    You’re baiting me, aren’t you?

  • avatar
    texlovera

    This is like the Three Stooges getting rid of Curly. Let’s hope they don’t replace him with Shemp.

  • avatar
    panzerfaust

    Communists have money?

  • avatar
    wsn

    # FreedMike :
    October 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    I’m not naive enough to think we’ll get all our money back out of GM, but this much I can guarantee you: a complete failure will ensure we get NONE of it out.

    So, do we cut our nose off to spite our face, or do we get over it and decide to do what we can to help them? Common sense dictates the latter course of action here.

    —-

    Getting none of it is more preferable than having to pay for more bailouts.

    So, common sense tells me to bash it AMAP and hopefully GM will be forced to file C7 before 2012.

  • avatar
    mtymsi

    Hopefully Henderson and Lutz will be following LaNeve on the oblivion express. Problem is the replacements especially if they are current GM lifers.

    Eventually chapter 7 will end it all but by that time GM will be a much smaller company so the effect on the economy won’t be as great plus the economy will be stronger. They are hard at work on the much smaller company right now.

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    Under_the_Bus

    Kettle (Fritz): Hey pot (Mark), you’re black.

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    Matt51

    MIT is a damn good school. I agree Peak Oil is bullshit.
    I like Lutz. Hope he stays.

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    John Horner

    panzerfaust :

    Communists have money?

    China.

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    bomberpete

    I haven’t seen the Buickman weigh in on this development.

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    bomberpete

    Wait, Rick Wagoner was Curly (“I was a victim of coi-cum-stance”). LaNeve would be more like Moe.

    God, we’re such boys!

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    bomberpete

    Wait, was Rick WagonerCurly? (“I was a victim of coi-cum-stance”).

    LaNeve would be more like Moe.

    God, we’re such boys!

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    Harleyflhxi

    I don’t own a Hummer, but I find the smug douchebags who call them atrocities, who key them in parking lots and vandalize them on dealer lots to be perfect examples of narrow-minded, I-know-better-than-you, smarmy weenies who have nothing better to do than infringe upon other people’s freedom of choice in the name of the supposed “greater good.”

    YOU are the ones leading the way to a nation where personal freedoms are curtailed, where a person better subscribe to politically correct viewpoints or be persecuted, and where environmentalism becomes the state religion and a means to implement more government regulation and control.

    Sanctimonious retorts to follow, I’m sure.

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    fincar1

    “Sanctimonious retorts to follow, I’m sure.”

    No doubt, but also attaboys like this one. I believe that an economy that can support Hummers (and Ferraris and Bugattis) is better off than one that can’t.

    And, on the topic of this thread, “What…already??!” Seriously, I thought Fritz & Lutz would be out the door before LaNeve. And as far as getting an outsider to do his job, yeah, fat effin’ chance. Not only is there not enough to sell, but all the insiders gunning for him/her. Plus a layer of government on top.

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