Piston Slap: My Mistress' Eyes Are Nothing Like the Sun Edition

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Michael writes:

Hello Sajeev, I’d like to ping your automotive wisdom with the following question. Soon I’ll be looking for a new car to replace my leased Corolla. I love power moonroofs (which my Corolla also has). My next car will be a long-term keeper, and even though I’d love to equip it with a roof orifice, I’m not sure about the longer-term reliability of power moonroofs. Are they known to start leaking, to require expensive repairs? Or is it better to buy a car without a moonroof and then have a manual sunroof installed; and would it void the car’s warranty?

I’d like to keep my next car until it falls apart — 10 years or longer. Thanks muchly for your time.

Sajeev answers:

Take it from the guy who has two 10+ year old cars with glass tops: do it. After thirteen years, one car’s factory moonroof needed nothing but a new rubber gasket to eliminate wind noise, a $50 part from a company called the Sunroof Doctor. If you’re paranoid or OCD, ehow.com has some helpful hints on sunroof maintenance.

The other option is a Webasto unit installed at the dealer, and it only needs a new felt pad to silence an occasional rattle from the pop-up wind deflector. No motor failures. No leaks. No brainer.

I prefer factory installed moonroofs because they have a better-integrated look inside the car, especially the switch and bezel. Most importantly, their unique roof stamping lets the glass sit flush with the roof: aftermarket parts normally sit a millimeter on top as they are a cut the roof and drop-in affair.

Bonus! A Piston Slap Nugget of Wisdom:

If you find a great deal on a roof-less car, go aftermarket and haggle on the price. Dealers usually have an off-site outfitter who sells their services at a discount: either you fight for dealer’s cost, or go to the horse’s mouth instead. From what I’ve seen, there’s a 10% markup on this service, so negotiate a better deal.

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  • MBella MBella on Jun 17, 2009

    Factory hands down. The only serious problem you have to worry about is the drain hoses. They shouldn't be a problem if you keep debris from clogging them. Then things like seal will keap the noise down.

  • JohnHowardOxley JohnHowardOxley on Jun 17, 2009

    My dislike of sun/moon/star roofs [added mechanical complexity, more weight high up in the car] is sufficiently great that when I was considering purchase of an S5 [which is a great car in my book, otherwise], the fact that a s/m/s roof was a mandatory option was the deal-breaker. When I look upwards while seated in my car, I want to see solid tin!

  • 6-speed Pomodoro I had summer and winter tires for a car years ago. What a pain in the butt. You've permanently got a stack of tires hogging space in the garage and you've got to swap them yourself twice a year, because you can't fit a spare set of tires in a sportscar to pay someone else to swap 'em.I'd rather just put DWS06's on everything. But I haven't had a sportscar in 8 years, so maybe that's a terrible idea.
  • ShitHead It kicked on one time for me when a car abruptly turned into my lane. Worked as advertised. I was already about to lean into the brake as I was into the horn.
  • Theflyersfan I look at that front and I have to believe that BMW and Genesis designers look at that and go "wow...that's a little much." Rest of the car looks really good - they nailed the evolution of the previous design quite well. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel - when people want a Mustang, I don't think they are going to cross-shop because they know what they want.
  • Theflyersfan Winters go on around Halloween and Summers go on in late March or early April. However, there were some very cold mornings right after the summers went on that had me skidding a bit due to no grip! I do enough (ahem) spirited driving on empty hilly/mountain roads to justify a set of sticky rubber, and winters are a must as while there isn't much snow where I am (three dustings of snow this entire winter), I head to areas that get a bit more snow and winter tires turns that light, RWD car into a snow beast!
  • SCE to AUX My B5.5 was terrible, but maybe the bugs have been worked out of this one.
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