Toyota Logs 75k Prius Pre-Orders; Camaro Fans Left in the Lurch

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Toyota’s third-generation Prius hybrid launches in Japan on Monday, with a European rollout scheduled for July, and already they firm has amassed 75k pre-orders worldwide. Of course, Toyota won’t confirm the number, which originated in a Nikkei report printed in Automotive News [sub]. Honda’s Insight has already become Japan’s top-selling car, the first hybrid to hold such a title. And all this despite oil and gas prices that are significantly weaker than a year ago. But, as GM is currently proving, pre-orders can sometimes be more trouble than they’re worth.

GM had about 15,000 pre-orders for its new Camaro, which was not a huge surprise considering the rabid fanbase, long absence of a comparable model, and two years of relentless GM hype. The only problem is that pre-ordering turned out to be little more than a GM exploitation of the fanboys for a little free marketing (and cashflow). Angry pre-order customers have flooded the “ Tour Of The New Camaro” thread at GM Fastlane, complaining that despite having made hefty deposits, their pony cars have yet to arrive.

Faced with a comment-thread revolt, Camaro Marketing Manager John Fitzpatrick tried to respond. “As much as we would like to accomplish the challenges provided in these posts, we must honor the dealer agreements and state laws that are in place that govern allocating products to dealers,” he wrote. “To build just orders with ‘R6P’ [pre-order] for the next two months (or for however long it would take) would put us in violation of these agreements and laws. Please be assured that does not mean we are ignoring these orders or not trying to build as many as we can.”

But hell hath no fury like a Camaro fan scorned, and several questioned what the point of a pre-order program was, if not to deliver the first cars to enthusiasts who put down over $1K for a car based on a prototype or magazine picture. “We wanted to determine demand,” admits Fitzpatrick. “We wanted to provide a realistic expectation of when vehicles would be produced.” But the Camaro kids weren’t mollified. “Look at these comments and think about what you have done to your most ‘Die Hard Camaro Fans’…. You treated us like lab rats. We as die hard fans lined up to support GM and give you our money for nothing to show for it,” wrote one. “’Priority 1’ has become the new version of ‘check is in the mail,’” fumed another.

Where does GM turn for friends when even the Camaro fanatics have had enough?

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  • KixStart KixStart on May 17, 2009

    gmbuoy, "Matt" wrote this on FastLane: "You can add me to the list of frustrated R6P buyers. My car has been sitting in some lot 4B00 since April 2nd. Ordered in October. I sit back and watch as more and more of these fine cars show up on the streets and at the dealership while I have to field the daily question multiple times “Wheres your car?”" Other cars at the dealership?? This isn't some "allocation" BS, this is sending unsold cars out for big dealer markups and putting the deposit cars on hold. rudiger, Newsflash for you... It's not 1994 any more. Honda can build their entire product line on a single assembly line, if need be. If GM can't build the same basic car to arbitrary option specs pretty quickly, it's time to fold up the tents and go home.

  • KixStart KixStart on May 18, 2009

    gmbuoy, "Duane" added this to FastLane: "I ordered my new Camaro on 11/28, which was the day after I found out that they were taking orders. Saturday I drove by my dealer and they have 4 new Camaro’s on the lot 4 sale. After ordering a car that I had not seen the finished product of and waiting for 5 months. I get to see others walk into the dealer and drive off with a car that they can test drive. Something about this just doesn’t sit well with me. What a great way to say thanks to the loyalists that could not wait to get their order in. Let those who could not make up their minds get them first…. Maybe I will have mine just in time to store for a Minnesota winter………………" This problem has nothing to do with "allocations."

  • Lorenzo Yes, they can recover from the Ghosn-led corporate types who cheapened vehicles in the worst ways, including quality control. In the early to mid-1990s Nissan had efficient engines, and reliable drivetrains in well-assembled, fairly durable vehicles. They can do it again, but the Japanese government will have to help Nissan extricate itself from the "Alliance". It's too bad Japan didn't have a George Washington to warn about entangling alliances!
  • Slavuta Nissan + profitability = cheap crap
  • ToolGuy Why would they change the grille?
  • Oberkanone Nissan proved it can skillfully put new frosting on an old cake with Frontier and Z. Yet, Nissan dealers are so broken they are not good at selling the Frontier. Z production is so minimal I've yet to see one. Could Nissan boost sales? Sure. I've heard Nissan plans to regain share at the low end of the market. Kicks, Versa and lower priced trims of their mainstream SUV's. I just don't see dealerships being motivated to support this effort. Nissan is just about as exciting and compelling as a CVT.
  • ToolGuy Anyone who knows, is this the (preliminary) work of the Ford Skunk Works?
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