Silicon Valley Won't Save Detroit, Detroit's Dragging Down Silicon Valley. Or Not.

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Recently, firms like Tesla have launched themselves into the public eye by trumpeting the meme that Silicone Valley’s innovation-driven culture will show the way for Detroit which remains mired in old-economy faults. And it’s a storyline that has yielded millions in venture capital and free media attention. The New York Times’ Thomas Friedman unintentionally brought this line of thinking to its point of absurdum by calling on Steve Jobs to “do national service and run a car company for a year.” But as our ongoing Tesla Death Watch consistently demonstrates, Silicon Valley automakers could still stand to learn a thing or two about, you know, actually producing cars from even Detroit’s most dismal. And then there’s this story from The San Jose Mercury detailling the extent to which Silicon Valley is dependent on business from Detroit. “As soon as the automotive industry coughs, a lot of other companies get a cold,” Gartner analyst Thilo Koslowski tells the Merc. “That includes companies in the semiconductor industry and that includes a lot in the Bay Area… It’s a relatively big market for them in Silicon Valley.”

Needless to say, Detroit’s metaphorical cough is getting all kinds of loose and bloody, but high-tech firms aren’t dropping the way traditional auto suppliers have been. In fact sales of auto-related semiconductors are supposed to increase steadily by about $1b per year, hitting $22b in 2009. So what gives? Cars are getting smarter, stupid. Meanwhile, if Silicon Valley can show that it has the attention span for production and customer service-oriented business, it could help America’s auto industry surf the tech-happy industry trends. Declaring game-changer status with a lot of hat and no cattle (as Tesla has) isn’t going to cut it though.


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  • Landcrusher Landcrusher on Dec 02, 2008

    Bubba, We also have domestic truck plants in Texas; however, being mostly people of principle, we are mostly against the bail out no matter what it might do to our pocketbooks. The type of argument you offer sells a lot better east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line. Okay, maybe those Dallas banker types might be influenced by your pitch. They often have incorrect leanings. You didn't hear anyone around hear asking the feds to bail out Enron did you?

  • Cleek Cleek on Dec 02, 2008

    It is always 2010 in Silicon Valley

  • Probert They already have hybrids, but these won't ever be them as they are built on the modular E-GMP skateboard.
  • Justin You guys still looking for that sportbak? I just saw one on the Facebook marketplace in Arizona
  • 28-Cars-Later I cannot remember what happens now, but there are whiteblocks in this period which develop a "tick" like sound which indicates they are toast (maybe head gasket?). Ten or so years ago I looked at an '03 or '04 S60 (I forget why) and I brought my Volvo indy along to tell me if it was worth my time - it ticked and that's when I learned this. This XC90 is probably worth about $300 as it sits, not kidding, and it will cost you conservatively $2500 for an engine swap (all the ones I see on car-part.com have north of 130K miles starting at $1,100 and that's not including freight to a shop, shop labor, other internals to do such as timing belt while engine out etc).
  • 28-Cars-Later Ford reported it lost $132,000 for each of its 10,000 electric vehicles sold in the first quarter of 2024, according to CNN. The sales were down 20 percent from the first quarter of 2023 and would “drag down earnings for the company overall.”The losses include “hundreds of millions being spent on research and development of the next generation of EVs for Ford. Those investments are years away from paying off.” [if they ever are recouped] Ford is the only major carmaker breaking out EV numbers by themselves. But other marques likely suffer similar losses. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fords-120000-loss-vehicle-shows-california-ev-goals-are-impossible Given these facts, how did Tesla ever produce anything in volume let alone profit?
  • AZFelix Let's forego all of this dilly-dallying with autonomous cars and cut right to the chase and the only real solution.
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