Bailout Watch 234: Obama Slides Back Towards "Aye"

bailout watch 234 obama slides back towards aye

After recently appearing to edge away from his electorally necessary pro-bailout stance, it seems Obama is headed back towards his original position. “It appears based on reports that we’ve seen that this time out the executives from these automakers are putting forward a more serious set of plans,” the president elect tells Automotive News [sub]. “I’m glad that they recognize the expectations of Congress, certainly, my expectations that we should maintain a viable auto industry,” Obama said. “We should also make sure that any government assistance that’s provided… is based on realistic assessments of what the auto market is going to be and a realistic plan for how we’re going to make these companies viable over the long term.” When pressed for details, such as whether “bridge loans” should come from TARP or the already-approved $25b retooling loan package, Obama stays resolutely nonspecific. “At this point, I’m more interested in seeing whether or not there is a sound plan there,” he said. “Then I’ll be in discussions and listening about where the best sources of money are. But I think it’s premature to get into that issue.” So does President Bush according to Dow Jones (via CNN Money), although we know that he favors using the $25b fund. Of course, with the Detroit bill now coming in at $34b, that $25b will only go so far. Either way, Bush won’t make any kind of decision on the issue until after congressional testimony tomorrow and Friday… and Obama still has the better part of two months to test the waters.

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  • CarnotCycle CarnotCycle on Dec 03, 2008
    I’ll throw out this opinion. The Det 3 and the UAW did more economically for black people than any other private entity in the US. I believe Obama understands this. I don't know if I would call Detroit an economic success story for anyone, black people included. I doubt black people in Detroit are doing better than black people in say, Seattle or the Bay Area - no matter the era. Plus, all the transplants are in the South and that means a significant plurality of the workers at those transplants are most definitely black folks and they are making a good, justifiable living. Those black folks in the transplants - like their white counterparts - are less worried about losing everything right about now, and aren't depending on their neighbor (whatever color that person may be) for a handout to keep the lights on.

  • Reclusive_in_nature Reclusive_in_nature on Dec 04, 2008

    CarnotCycle your post on "Nader-frenching Grape-nuts" versus "New Dealer-ish Socialism Now" lefties was a breath of fresh air. I've wanted to post the same thought, but didn't want to deal with the backlash/whining/lecturing. Kudos to you!

  • DenverMike When was it ever a mystery? The Fairmont maybe, but only the 4-door "Futura" trim, that was distinctively upscale. The Citation and Volare didn't have competing trims, nor was there a base stripper Maxima at the time, if ever, crank windows, vinyl seats, 2-doors, etc. So it wasn't a "massacre", not even in spirit, just different market segments. It could be that the Maxima was intended to compete with those, but everything coming from Japan at the time had to take it up a notch, if not two.Thanks to the Japanese "voluntary" trade restriction, everything had extra options, if not hard loaded. The restriction limited how many vehicles were shipped, not what they retailed at. So Japanese automakers naturally raised the "price" (or stakes) without raising MSRP. What the dealers charged (gouged) was a different story.Realistically, the Maxima was going up against entry luxury sedans (except Cimarron lol), especially Euro/German, same as the Cressida. It definitely worked in Japanese automaker's favor, not to mention inspiring Lexus, Acura and Infiniti.
  • Ronnie Schreiber Hydrocarbon based fuels have become unreliable? More expensive at the moment but I haven't seen any lines gathering around gas stations lately, have you? I'm old enough to remember actual gasoline shortages in 1973 and 1979 (of course, since then there have been many recoverable oil deposits discovered around the world plus the introduction of fracking). Consumers Power is still supplying me with natural gas. I recently went camping and had no problem buying propane.Texas had grid problems last winter because they replaced fossil fueled power plants with wind and solar, which didn't work in the cold weather. That's the definition of unreliable.I'm an "all of the above" guy when it comes to energy: fossil fuels, hydro, wind (where it makes sense), nuclear (including funding for fusion research), and possibly solar.Environmental activists, it seems to me, have no interest in energy diversity. Based on what's happened in Sri Lanka and the push against agriculture in Europe and Canada, I think it's safe to say that some folks want most of us to live like medieval peasants to save the planet for their own private jets.
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  • MaintenanceCosts There's no mystery anymore about how the Japanese took over the prestige spot in the US mass market (especially on the west coast) when you realize that this thing was up against the likes of the Fairmont, Citation, and Volaré. A massacre.