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New Cars a Bad Value, Buy This Used One Instead

by Justin Berkowitz
(IC: employee)
November 4th, 2008 10:18 AM
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Featured listing on Hemmings. European version (no side lights, no pop up headlights), and only about 31,000 miles. And of course, a 352 horsepower V12 and 5-speed stick. Yours for a paltry $359,000.









Published November 4th, 2008 10:18 AM
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I have a personal policy of not buying my cars in school-bus yellow, sorry.
So would I be safe in saying that you wouldn't be going for Fire Engine RED or Cement Mixer ORANGE either ?