Cayenne Kommt 2009 Mit Diesel Von Audi

by Robert Farago

June 16th, 2008 7:22 PM

Stimt? The Porsche Cayenne is a gas pig built by a company that doesn't have an economy car in its lineup, in a world where automotive companies who don't sell an economy car– sorry, a low CO2-emitting vehicle– get the living crap taxed– sorry, "fined" out of them. So it's no wonder that Automobilewoche is reporting that Porsche is looking to fit their SUV with an oil burner for 2009. Porschephiles will know that this is not a new story. But it's a good one– as Porsche has previously denied rumors of a hybrid and/or a diesel Cayenne. Automobilwoche says not only is Porsche getting down and diesel, but they're looking to Audi to provide the Sultans of Stuttgart with 15k 240hp V6 diesel engines (up from 10k). It seems Porsche planned to introduce the diesel version in January 2009– along with the face-lifted Boxster– but postponed the launch so as not to steal the brave new Boxster's thunder.

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JJ on Jun 17, 2008

Porsche didn't deny rumors about a hybrid...They always denied rumors about a diesel saying they were going to come out with a hybrid instead (of a diesel). I don't know what this diesel option will mean for the plans to introduce a hybrid version. Chances are they'll still press on with that. Also 15k 240hp V6 diesel engines (up from 10k). should be 'more then 15k 240HP V6 diesels a year' Personally, I think on the one hand it makes a lot of sense to offer a diesel in any large or at least heavy SUV because it will have better mileage and the low-end torque comes in nicely when towing boats or climbing rocks. On the other hand, it's a Porsche with a VAG diesel. The slippery slope has just become more slippy.

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TaxedAndConfused on Jun 17, 2008

What happened to the V10 TDi ?

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JJ on Jun 17, 2008
What happened to the V10 TDi It got a mild update in the Touareg (now 350HP)and was discontinued in the Phaeton (which is still on sale in Europe btw, albeit not with the V10 TDI). There was a short run of US V10 TDI Touaregs if I'm not mistaken, before emission standards made sure that ended. Basically the V10 was an older engine, made out of two I5 TDIs based on an engine that went back some generations. It was therefore pretty rough and loud and there was an evident diesel noise. The engine was rendered pretty much useless when Audi came out with the 4.2 V8 common rail TDI, which has 326HP, needs less fuel and most importantly is a lot easier on the ears. A nice example of both VW and Audi seperately developing their own (big) diesel engines (another example; the 2.7 V6 TDI designed by VW and 3.0 V6 TDI designed by Audi both offered in the Euro A4/A6), that has (hopefully for them) been adressed in the meantime. The reason why VW keeps offering the V10 TDI (and the I5 TDI for that matter) in the Touareg (and none of their other models) is unclear to me, especially since they also offer the same V6 TDI that Porsche has just bought in the same car... Arguably discontinuing might be loss of face, but anyone buying a diesel Touareg now is going to buy the V6 TDI...The same goes for the Audi Q7 by the way. The 4.2 V8 TDI (audi) and especially the 5.0 V10 TDI (VW) and 6.0 V12 TDI (audi, 500HP) seem to exist only for image purposes that become more and more unfortunate given the rising fuel prices. Wouldn't be surprised if they will be discontinued shortly and I doubt if Audi is actually going to offer the R8 V12 TDI, unless they have already invested so much in modding it that they can't go back. Some say Audi might even go back to petrol/hybrid for the Le Mans Prototypes.

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Ricky Spanish on Jun 18, 2008

why not a hybrid diesel?

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