NYT: NJ Officers Asking Car Passengers For Immigration Status

nyt nj officers asking car passengers for immigration status

"After the arrest of an illegal immigrant in connection with the murder of three students in Newark last summer, New Jersey’s attorney general, Anne Milgram, ordered state and local police to question the people arrested for serious crimes about their immigration status." The New York Times editorial board is down with that, as long as the police "ask about the immigration status of anyone arrested for an indictable crime or drunken driving, but not for minor offenses. They are prohibited from asking about the status of crime victims, witnesses and people requesting assistance." But OH NO. The Old Gray Lady reports that "Lawyers and advocates for immigrants say that they have received reports that some police departments, especially in rural areas, are routinely questioning immigrants who are not covered by the directive, including some who were simply passengers in cars pulled over for minor traffic offenses. These actions come dangerously close to racial and ethnic profiling." Shouldn't that be alleged actions? Anyway, it's enough for the NYT to call for New Jersey to "scale back police involvement in immigration enforcement." And yes, this is a car story.

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  • TexasAg03 TexasAg03 on Apr 16, 2008
    I’m certainly not for people breaking the law, as illegal immigrants clearly are, but why do they deserve the hate of average Americans when they provide us with so many services? It seems like they are one of the only groups that it is socially acceptable to be blatantly racist about. Who said anything about racism or hate? They are criminals. Period. I am so sick of being called a racist for saying that illegal aliens are criminals. I don't give a sh%t what country they come from, I just know they are breaking the law. I would (and do) feel the same way if they were coming from England or Canada. They aren’t murderers or crooks (*cough*halliburton*cough*), just people trying to make ends meet. They ARE crooks (*cough*Al Gore*cough*). Someone who sells crack may be just "trying to make ends meet". That does not excuse the crime.

  • Coupdetat Coupdetat on Apr 16, 2008

    Your logic is a bit twisted there. Let me clear things up for you. First off, I'm not saying you are being racist, but that many Mexicans DO suffer from racial slanders and to many people it seems socially acceptable to do so. Second, Al Gore is not at the White House taking our tax dollars. You totally missed the point of my Halliburton remark. Third, selling crack clearly has a victim--the users. Does a group of illegals entering the labor market have a victim? See how much products and services increase in price if Mexicans did not work for pennies in this country. I just don't understand why people have so much animosity against illegal immigrants, yet hardly any against the more serious socioeconomic problems we face.

  • Landcrusher Landcrusher on Apr 17, 2008

    "First off, I’m not saying you are being racist, but that many Mexicans DO suffer from racial slanders and to many people it seems socially acceptable to do so." So, we should set our standards and laws based on the lowest, ignorant idiots among us? Really? If this is the standard then we should govern all cars to the highest speed limit should we not? Or better yet, because many people would still speed, we should just govern them all to 35? A lot of the animosity about illegals is poorly placed, but not all of it. They are after all, in the country only because they are breaking the laws. If your house guest refuses to leave after his stay, do you think it's okay so long as he does chores? No. Rules are rules. The punishment for most illegals is deportation. We are a nice people. We could put them in gulags. What we really need to do is greatly increase legal immigration. We have a wonderful country and we should invest in allowing in only the most desirable immigrants. People with skills, ambition, and a desire to become one of us. To be part of the great experiment. I can't figure out what we are doing now, but apparently it's not working well.

  • TexasAg03 TexasAg03 on Apr 17, 2008
    See how much products and services increase in price if Mexicans did not work for pennies in this country. It wouldn't be all that much and the health care and education systems would have greatly reduced burdens which would lower costs in those areas. My wife is an RN at a hospital in north Texas and we have a big problem with illegals and medical costs. Border town hospitals are really hurting. I just don’t understand why people have so much animosity against illegal immigrants, yet hardly any against the more serious socioeconomic problems we face. The same reason people have animosity toward other criminals.

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