Hammer Time: Look Out! Here Comes a Spider Pig…

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

This year is going to be a devastatingly bad one for car valuations. If you’re a keeper, this is great news. New and near-new cars are going to continue with their proverbial freefall. You will more than likely be able to get a good vehicle with 80 percent of its useful life for 40 percent of the price (two to four year old vehicle). The frugalists amongst the keeper crowd will likely do even better than that. A well-engineered seven- to nine-year-old vehicle may truly be the best sweet spot in the market right now. With some diligence, you can find a conservatively driven car with 50 percent of its life (90k to 120k miles) for a mere 20 percent of its new car price. But what will be the absolute best deals? Read on . . .

The unloved leftover rules! I always encourage folks to buy a car during its last year of the model run or get the unpopular but well-made car that’s going to be discontinued. Either one will be a strong overall value. Some like to say that brands that are on the ropes and periphery (e.g., Saturn, Suzuki, Hummer, Mitsubishi) deserve special consideration. I disagree. At least for the enthusiast, the quality of the design and culture of the company that made the car will be there long after the brand is defunct. “Cheap” is expensive and sometimes discounts are there for a good reason . . . but sometimes you can have them for the taking.

So what’s on my “best” list for new cars? Glad you didn’t ask. But, OK. Here are a few:

  • Entry Level: Nissan Versa; Mitsubishi Lancer
  • Compact Funster: Suzuki SX4
  • Midsize Family Car: Kia Optima (4-cylinder); Saturn Aura; Ford Fusion; Chevy Malibu
  • Full-Size Novocaine: Ford Taurus / Mercury Sable; leftover Azeras.
  • Sub-$30K Convertibles: Chrysler Sebring Convertible (sorry, that’s $13K); Mazda MX-5
  • Conventional Sports Sedan and/or Coupe: Nissan Altima
  • Schizoid Sports Sedan: Lexus IS-F
  • Minivan Mommies: Hyundai Entourage
  • Breadbox Design Inc.: Honda Element; Ford Flex
  • Truck: Perhaps a Dodge Ram 30 days from now. Otherwise a Toyota Tacoma.

Which car would I be willing to keep for the next 15 years?

2007 Volvo V70R

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  • Davey49 Davey49 on Apr 18, 2009

    I love how people actually believe that "Certified" actually means something. "Certified" by who? It's not like there's some kind of agency going around to dealers saying, "This one's good, sell it!" The 2007 Element has an average mark in CR for brakes, usually reliable cars will have better or much better than average. The Element has had problems with the windshields cracking. Rastus- most have gone to chains. There was a time when belts were preferred for less noise, more compact packaging and simpler oiling (no oil bath required for the chain) The development of quieter single row chains has helped with the noise and packaging issues. The Taurus/Sable has a ton more room than the Crown Vic/G.Marquis.

  • Tedward Tedward on Apr 20, 2009

    davey49 The Element that I have to deal with has gone through 3 sets of pads and rotors in the past 6 months...and about half that cost has been eaten by the Honda dealer. They've admitted that they have other customers with the same problem, which was confirmed by a local mail-woman who had to get rid of hers for the same reason. Apparently any exposure to dust or dirt pretty much guarantees shot rotors (this is Honda's explanation) and they recommend that a) the car never be driven on dirt roads, and b) the car be brought in no less than every 10k miles to have the brakes checked. Obviously both of these solutions are unnacceptable. The Element is never hooned or driven aggresively and otherwise it's been problem free (with about 56k miles on it right now). Honda has not made any changes to the car, and as far as the owner has heard, has no plans to do so, even though the dealer service dept. admits there's a design problem.

  • Alan My view is there are good vehicles from most manufacturers that are worth looking at second hand.I can tell you I don't recommend anything from the Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat/etc gene pool. Toyotas are overly expensive second hand for what they offer, but they seem to be reliable enough.I have a friend who swears by secondhand Subarus and so far he seems to not have had too many issue.As Lou stated many utes, pickups and real SUVs (4x4) seem quite good.
  • 28-Cars-Later So is there some kind of undiagnosed disease where every rando thinks their POS is actually valuable?83K miles Ok.new valve cover gasket.Eh, it happens with age. spark plugsOkay, we probably had to be kewl and put in aftermarket iridium plugs, because EVO.new catalytic converterUh, yeah that's bad at 80Kish. Auto tranny failing. From the ad: the SST fails in one of the following ways:Clutch slip has turned into; multiple codes being thrown, shifting a gear or 2 in manual mode (2-3 or 2-4), and limp mode.Codes include: P2733 P2809 P183D P1871Ok that's really bad. So between this and the cat it suggests to me someone jacked up the car real good hooning it, because EVO, and since its not a Toyota it doesn't respond well to hard abuse over time.$20,000, what? Pesos? Zimbabwe Dollars?Try $2,000 USD pal. You're fracked dude, park it in da hood and leave the keys in it.BONUS: Comment in the ad: GLWS but I highly doubt you get any action on this car what so ever at that price with the SST on its way out. That trans can be $10k + to repair.
  • 28-Cars-Later Actually Honda seems to have a brilliant mid to long term strategy which I can sum up in one word: tariffs.-BEV sales wane in the US, however they will sell in Europe (and sales will probably increase in Canada depending on how their government proceeds). -The EU Politburo and Canada concluded a trade treaty in 2017, and as of 2024 99% of all tariffs have been eliminated.-Trump in 2018 threatened a 25% tariff on European imported cars in the US and such rhetoric would likely come again should there be an actual election. -By building in Canada, product can still be sold in the US tariff free though USMCA/NAFTA II but it should allow Honda tariff free access to European markets.-However if the product were built in Marysville it could end up subject to tit-for-tat tariff depending on which junta is running the US in 2025. -Profitability on BEV has already been a variable to put it mildly, but to take on a 25% tariff to all of your product effectively shuts you out of that market.
  • Lou_BC Actuality a very reasonable question.
  • Lou_BC Peak rocket esthetic in those taillights (last photo)
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