Toyota Quiet About Potential Engine Problems With GR86

toyota quiet about potential engine problems with gr86


According to a new report, at least some Toyota GR86s are suffering from lubrication issues.

One driver even claims Toyota refused to pay for a new engine, accusing him of abusing it on track.


Blake Alvarado is the owner of a 2022 GR86 and according to The Drive, he found a sealant called RTV in his engine's oil pickup after it failed, which occurred on July 10. This sealant is used as a gasket for the Subaru FA24D engine that Toyota uses in the GR86, which shares its platform and powertrain with the Subaru BRZ. The report alleges it's applied a bit liberally at the factory.

When this sealant gets into the oil, it can clog the oil pickup. That can lead to engine-oil starvation, and perhaps a failed bearing. That's what happened to Alvarado. He posted on social media about his dealer's refusal to replace the engine under warranty, and others chimed in with their own complaints about finding RTV in the oil. The Drive points out that it's not clear how many vehicles have been affected, and neither Toyota nor Subaru has issued either a recall or technical service bulletin.

Alvarado claims the dealer cited abuse at an autocross event as its reasoning for refusing to do the work under warranty. Alvardo admits he took the car to a test and tune event and some other local performance-driving events, but he claims that he mostly drove at highway speeds during the event and that his engine hasn't been modified. He also says he's never abused his engine and the car had less than 14,000 miles on it at the time. He further notes that performance driving is part of the GR86's marketing and Toyota even offers a free track day to buyers.

Further reporting from The Drive turns up complaints of RTV buildup from owners of previous-gen and current-gen cars, as well as complaints from customers that Toyota dealers wanted to charge them $2,000 to take a look at the oil pan to check for the presence of RTV. Apparently, Subaru is more willing to perform the work under warranty on the BRZ.

For those curious, here's what Toyota says about it  on its U.K. website: "Using your GR Yaris for Track Days or similar events does not invalidate your vehicle's Warranty. Any potential failure to your GR Yaris during a Track Day or similar event are not specifically excluded and manufacturing defects within the Warranty period will be supported."

Meanwhile, Toyota North America's warranty documentation says "racing" and "abuse" will void an owner's warranty.

As for Alvardo, he couldn't afford the more than $11,000 estimate for a new engine, so he had a used one shipped from California to his home in Arkansas. He's also upset that Toyota didn't even bother to send a Field Technical Specialist out to see the vehicle in person -- according to him, the determination to refuse the warranty work was done over the phone.

We'll be keeping an eye on this one.

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  • Bobbysirhan Bobbysirhan on Aug 05, 2022

    Buying a Toyota with a Subaru engine is like buying a steak made out of ground up cockroaches.

  • Dukeisduke Dukeisduke on Aug 05, 2022

    If I were Alvarado, I would sue. The stuff that Toyota has used for applications like this is called "FIPG", or Form In Place Gasket. Are the engines used in these all built in a Subaru plant, a Toyota plant, or both?

  • DenverMike When was it ever a mystery? The Fairmont maybe, but only the 4-door "Futura" trim, that was distinctively upscale. The Citation and Volare didn't have competing trims, nor was there a base stripper Maxima at the time, if ever, crank windows, vinyl seats, 2-doors, etc. So it wasn't a "massacre", not even in spirit, just different market segments. It could be that the Maxima was intended to compete with those, but everything coming from Japan at the time had to take it up a notch, if not two.Thanks to the Japanese "voluntary" trade restriction, everything had extra options, if not hard loaded. The restriction limited how many vehicles were shipped, not what they retailed at. So Japanese automakers naturally raised the "price" (or stakes) without raising MSRP. What the dealers charged (gouged) was a different story.Realistically, the Maxima was going up against entry luxury sedans (except Cimarron lol), especially Euro/German, same as the Cressida. It definitely worked in Japanese automaker's favor, not to mention inspiring Lexus, Acura and Infiniti.
  • Ronnie Schreiber Hydrocarbon based fuels have become unreliable? More expensive at the moment but I haven't seen any lines gathering around gas stations lately, have you? I'm old enough to remember actual gasoline shortages in 1973 and 1979 (of course, since then there have been many recoverable oil deposits discovered around the world plus the introduction of fracking). Consumers Power is still supplying me with natural gas. I recently went camping and had no problem buying propane.Texas had grid problems last winter because they replaced fossil fueled power plants with wind and solar, which didn't work in the cold weather. That's the definition of unreliable.I'm an "all of the above" guy when it comes to energy: fossil fuels, hydro, wind (where it makes sense), nuclear (including funding for fusion research), and possibly solar.Environmental activists, it seems to me, have no interest in energy diversity. Based on what's happened in Sri Lanka and the push against agriculture in Europe and Canada, I think it's safe to say that some folks want most of us to live like medieval peasants to save the planet for their own private jets.
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  • MaintenanceCosts There's no mystery anymore about how the Japanese took over the prestige spot in the US mass market (especially on the west coast) when you realize that this thing was up against the likes of the Fairmont, Citation, and Volaré. A massacre.
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