Ram Recalled Hundreds of Thousands of Diesel Trucks for Fire Risk

The Cummins diesel itself is one of the best diesels on the market and they are known for their longevity and reliability. It is nothing for them to go a million miles or more. I knew farmers that had Cummins engines in Dodge trucks and when the trucks were rusted and worn out they would pull the Cummins engine and use it on their irrigation pumps many have been using the same Cummins that the pulled out of their trucks 30 years ago that are still going strong with no rebuilds on their irrigation pumps. The earlier Dodge trucks were not the best but the Cummins engines in them were among the best and that is one reason many bought Dodges was because of the Cummins.

True, but their low point is when they had to use Mercedes parts. Really the only way to make them worse

Art Vandelay--The full size Ram trucks never used Mercedes parts. Ram did rebadge a Mercedes van but they also have rebadged Fiat vans. The Chrysler 300s, Chargers, and Magnums did use Mercedes components. Ram still has some of the past Chrysler issues and it didn't help them when they were owned by Fiat. Remains to be seen under Stellantis. The Cummins engine itself is one of the best diesels on the market. Ram has been gaining market share in the last few years and among full size pickups they have one of the nicest interiors and they are a good looking truck.

"The full size Ram trucks never used Mercedes parts."

Completely false.

Since DaimlerBenz did own Dodge/Ram, technically it would be all Mercedes parts ;)

EBFlex--In 2010 Ram became its own separate brand. Under Mercedes ownership there was a plan to replace the Cummins diesel in Dodge pickups with a diesel from Mercedes in 2000 but that didn't happen. The current Ram vans and the half ton Ram pickup offer a diesel made by Italian-made VM Motori. Under Mercedes ownership there was a Mercedes made van rebadged as a Ram. Current Ram vans are Fiat based but the pickups are not. The hemi engines offered in Chryslers, Dodges, and Rams did use a dual-plug ignition system based on the Mercedes' modular V-6 and V-8 engines but it was not made by Mercedes. The dual-plug ignition system increases power, lowers emissions levels, and allows an extremely smooth and stable idle speed of just 500 rpm. Mercedes engineers shared technology with Chrysler but Mercedes supplied few parts. The Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, Dodge Magnum, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Dodge Challenger all shared Mercedes platforms but those platforms were not made by Mercedes. Few parts were sourced directly from Mercedes but much of the technology and platforms were based on Mercedes.

Lou_BC--I use to think that as well but I researched this and few if any Chrysler and Dodges used Mercedes parts but Mercedes engineers shared a lot of technology with Chrysler and many Chrysler products were based on Mercedes platforms.

The diesel engine in my ZR2 is a VM Motori built under licence by GM. I was surprised to find that out. I assumed it was an Isuzu.

" EBFlex--In 2010 Ram became its own separate brand. Under Mercedes ownership"

And? What was the point of your drivel?

You said "The full size Ram trucks never used Mercedes parts."...that is false. The ignition switch was used in Mercedes. The "peg" is exactly the same. And that's just one example.

No that would be stupid

Why would it be the OEMs responsibility to return the emmission system to OEM EPA original approved state when the vehical owner illegally removed it in in the first place because they didn't have the knowledge,training, or money to maintain it or use a qualified service dealer to do the same? Before you yap a return, me a cat, cummins, detroit, mbe and navistar certified technician 37 years.

JAM: Respect for your knowledge/experience. Let me ask you. Class 8 pre 2007. Which is best? Cummins, Cat ( my fav by far ) or DDA (2nd place) ?. what s best for full size diesel pickup ? Ram, Ford, GM?

“Before you yap a return, me a cat, cummins, detroit, mbe and navistar certified technician 37 years.”

Thoughts on the DT466

Jam, you're taking a snarky comment way too seriously.

My serious opinion on this topic is that deleted pickups should be impounded on sight and taken immediately to a qualified repair shop of the owner's choice, with a legal requirement for the shop not to return the truck to the owner until a system meeting all requirements applicable to the OEM truck is installed and tested. I don't have a single lick of sympathy for owners who subject everyone else on the roads to clouds of carcinogenic smoke to save a buck.

In most states it probably would not get impounded unless the truck was rolling coal on a continuing basis and it was reported. Agree no one wants to have a cloud of smoke rolled on them.

@MaintenanceCosts - Is it really done to save a buck? Makes little sense. An emissions delete for my little diesel would cost almost as much as a new engine.

They are chit

Art Vandelay--Many of them are.