By on March 2, 2022

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It’s that time of year again, when many of you will file your taxes and get back a bunch of money. Some more than others, of course, and probably not enough to buy the sort of car you probably want, but could it be enough for a down payment? That sounds about right – and, if you’re anything like me, you’re about to make a very bad decision.

Why are you making a bad decision? Because you’ve said the words, “Why would I buy a new Accord when I could get a used [insert German sports sedan] for the same money?” out loud, and sort of believed it. If only a little.

Or, I dunno. Maybe you’re smart. If you are, sit back, get set for some Schadenfreude, check out some of the ridiculous cars we dumb people will be spending our tax money on/ruining our lives with once the H&R Block check hits.

IMPRESS THE NEIGHBORS

 

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/88318378-a2af-413b-9395-e3694f7589d8/

There’s something about that three-pointed star that gets respect from the normies, and something about the “E500” badge that makes enthusiasts of a certain age sit up and take notice.

And, sure – this is wrong 500 E, but most people have no idea that Mercedes’ resale values have been chasing the Russian ruble towards zero for the better part of the millennium, and cars that carried hefty price tags can now be had for – well, if not a song, then certainly less than my “winter” Civic.

The relatively clean-looking 2005 above, with just 102,000 miles on the clock, is no exception. The body looks straight enough, the interior clean enough, and the V8 rumbly enough to turn heads, and that mileage is nothing for a properly maintained E class.

That said, what are the odds that this one has been properly maintained? Almost every W211 E we ever took in on trade at my dealership had a leaking rear main seal, leaks at the front of the engine, and a bad crank position sensor.

I didn’t even have to Google that.

What’s more, the E500 had the same troublesome air suspension that the bigger S and SL class cars have, and they’re just as expensive to replace. Expect a four-figure repair bill every time you whack a pothole, or just from the passage of time – rubber dries out, cracks, and leaks, so if this Benz hasn’t had the airbags swapped out in the last 17 years, it’s probably due. If it needs all four? You might owe your mechanic more than you paid that dealer for the car. And that’s too bad. The Merc deserves better.

IMPRESS THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/636b427f-e444-4b7d-85c4-bd5357bf3a23/

Sure, the normies love the Mercedes, but the B&B knows better. The automotive high point here seems to be the 1995-2000 Lexus LS400, and for good reason. More Teutonic than the Teutons, this big sedan put a hurting on Mercedes’ high-end market share like nothing before or since, and continues to impress people who drive it today.

Alas, all is not well with these cars. They’re getting old, the electronics that drive these cars are delaminating from age, and repair parts (when they’re needed) are getting harder and harder to find. Will the part you need to keep your big Lexus running in two, three, or five years be around?

It’s hard to say – that’s why I’d choose this slightly newer LS. It still has that late 90s German vibe, but has a few more years left in it before something breaks irretrievably, and the car breaks your heart.

Don’t let yourself get hurt, guys. Just keep on scrolling.

THE MID-LIFE CRISIS CONVERTIBLE

https://www.infinitiofclarendonhills.com/inventory/used-2007-nissan-350z-touring-rwd-2d-convertible-jn1bz36a57m655325/

I’m a huge fan of the Nissan Z, and have been ever since GI Joe picked up Barbie in one. That said, it feels like every one of these cars has been mercilessly flogged by the type of guy who shifts his automatic like it’s a manual in a Ridge Racer arcade game.

This one looks pretty clean, and these cars are more reliable than most of the mid-life crisis convertibles out there (*cough* Chrysler 200 *cough-cough*), but the back-to-basics sporty car handling that the Z has been famous for in recent years doesn’t lend itself to gentle cruising, and all those years of high-speed antics are sure to catch up with this 2007 Nissan’s next owner, sooner or later.

THE ONE THAT STARTED IT ALL

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/04cf57f1-1c34-484f-97de-4d8ab947bae9/

This isn’t just any Range Rover Sport, it’s the Range Rover Sport that initially inspired this list when one of the guys in the local dad group asked me about it.

With over 140,000 miles on the clock, the list of things that could be wrong with this Range Rover is longer than the list of what’s probably right with it. A quick Google search shows failed air suspension bits, differentials, and a litany of electrical gremlins as “common problems”, but – by some weird coincidence – every single one of these that’s ever crossed my path as a service advisor has had leaking head gaskets and an ABS light.

There is no way this Range Rover Sport doesn’t eat you out of home. A few years back, Doug DeMoro bought a 2006 Range Rover of his own and famously slapped an excellent CarMax warranty on the car. He paid $26,988 for the car, and CarMax ended up paying out a staggering $21,276 in repairs … and this Range Rover Sport? Let’s just say it’s probably not as mechanically sound as the 2006 Doug bought himself in 2012.

That said, the Range Rover Sport has always been a personal favorite of mine, and I don’t drive that much, what with all the pressers and motorcycles. Arlington Heights isn’t that far away …

[Images: Screenshotted by the author, chayanuphol/Shutterstock.com]

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67 Comments on “These Are the Worst Used Cars You Can Buy With Your Tax Refund...”


  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    “leaking rear main seal, leaks at the front of the engine, and a bad crank position sensor.”

    I’m pretty sure that was its own Mercedes options package after the Merger of Equals.

    “That said, it feels like every one of these cars has been mercilessly flogged by the type of guy who shifts his automatic like it’s a manual in a Ridge Racer arcade game.”

    Did you meet the people who bought these things (in auto convertible)? Boy racers they were not, think 40s-50s mid career splurge. The fart can crowd just had enough money to buy base model manuals. Generally speaking Z based Nissan products are probably the only ones which could even be considered for purchase.

  • avatar
    Fred

    My refund is less than $100, so whatever car I could buy is going to be a piece of junk.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    Hoovies garage has had a high miler Range Rover Sport Supercharged that he paid $8k for and has been quite reliable-for now.
    Vehicles like this are take your chances and set aside some cash for repairs or wrench it yourself.

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      And he just picked up a 2008 ML63 (or whatever the small Benz SUV with the full-zoot AMG package was), and it was OK at first, but is about to become a basket case!

      If you gave me any German vehicle, I’d sell it immediately and use the proceeds for something else!

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff Weimer

        That ML63 destroyed the inside front drivers CV joint – less than 24 hours after getting it back for other repairs including a battery drain traced to the power hatch. the part’s not too expensive and it might be worth taking a chance on Rockauto aftermarket parts. They might even be better.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    You could always opt for my old A3, which I dumped back in June. Is it available? Rumor has it that some kid named Zack picked it up, and he had every intention of making the 23% APR monthly payment until the child support folks in Denver, Adams and Jefferson County caught up with him.

    • 0 avatar
      theflyersfan

      @FreedMike….have I got a deal for you! While it might start a bidding war (downward) between you and the local VW/Mazda dealer, I have a mint condition, low mileage VW GLI, DSG, Pure Gray with your name on it! Think of it – a second one for when the first one decides to be cranky for a few days.
      (Just kidding! I just want a webcam setup so I can check in on them as they tear the car apart as I drive something that doesn’t give me a cold chill every time it rains.)

      As for Jo, and I might be a bit biased, but if you are using a refund as some found cash, buy something fun and you know what’s next – find the nicest MX-5 Miata that your budget will allow. Case in point – outside right now, it’s the nicest day of the year so far. 71 degrees. No clouds. No humidity. The perfect day for the top to come down and to burn the gunk out of the engine. Mine is somewhere on a boat heading towards Seattle (or maybe it’s there – the dealer told me the delays can be long), but if you buy used, you’ll have it right away for stunning 71 degree, sunny almost spring days.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        I’ll pass on your old GLI, thanks – cars possessed by Pazuzu aren’t my cup of tea. Mine just hit 10,000 miles – no problems at all.

        (Fingers crossed, of course).

        • 0 avatar
          theflyersfan

          All you’ll need is an old priest and a young priest, a gallon of holy water, and a strong stomach. And when you unbuckle the seat belt and open the door, a demonic voice reminds you to “GET OUT!” Thank you kind sir, I will exit the vehicle right now.

          Until proven otherwise, I will go to my grave thinking that “Christine” was the first car on the line when the shift changed sometime on May 6, 2020. Everyone’s nursing a major hangover and quality control called out sick that day.

      • 0 avatar
        sgeffe

        At least it’s not a Porsche or something else like that, as it could be turning into a coral reef as we type these comments! Blub!

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Zack has been a busy boy hasn’t he?

      • 0 avatar
        Lorenzo

        All a guy needs is an ex who moves around a lot, and knows how to play public assistance. A friend in Cali had that happen to him, with three counties dunning him for the child support they paid her that he’d already paid directly.

        His state agency employer and the state attorney general’s office stepped in, the ex was arrested, and he got custody of his two kids. That only worked because the state agency he worked for investigated why three counties wanted to garnish his wages.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      Makes me wonder what happened to my immaculate LS 460. I traded it with 49k miles on it to a Lexus dealer, who listed it for an honestly jaw-dropping amount and then sold it within two days. Somehow I have a feeling it’s not immaculate anymore.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Trading at Lexus dealer and them selling it so quickly it was either sold to a discernable CPO buyer who shop in the price point yours or was wholesaled to someone in the business who wanted it for themselves. Now at this point, its a 50/50 whether its still in the same hands or has moved on to the third or fourth owner becoming a ghetto fab exhibit.

  • avatar
    ajla

    “Expect a four-figure repair bill”

    I make enough that this does not scare me. I’m also at least not useless when it comes to fixing the W210.
    That said, if you’re fine with the repair cost it seems like you might as well spring for a fancier Mercedes model (or an AMG or diesel). I doubt an E500 is many people’s “labor of love” car.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      When you buy a used German luxury car, eye-watering repairs go right along with the eye-watering deal you get when you buy one. I basically budgeted in X dollars for repairs on my old Audi when I bought it. But then again, like you, I could afford the repairs. It was the inconvenience that finally soured me on the car – it’s a pain in the a** having stuff go wrong.

      Someone who can afford the repairs is probably going to get tired of that real quick, and might avoid the car in the first place.

      That leaves dumb kids who think they’re getting a screamin’ deal by picking up a V-8 Benzo for the same price as a used Accord. And when the four-figure repairs hit, they’re completely screwed.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        “It was the inconvenience that finally soured me on the car – it’s a pain in the a** having stuff go wrong.”

        You can’t primarily DD German cars out of warranty or even in warranty in some cases, you need a reliable backup.

        EDIT: Heard the same one the 17+ SPA platform Volvos. You ***need*** that extended warranty.

        • 0 avatar
          BobinPgh

          But even if you can afford the repairs – why? I just do not feel spending money on an air spring in an expensive car is going to make my life any better. Isn’t that what enough money is all about? Why not take a vacation for that kind of money?

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I agree.

          • 0 avatar
            ajla

            What am I going to do on vacation? Eat a fancy sandwich? See what salt water looks like when it hits the coast of another country? Get some agoraphobia flare ups?
            YMMV, but my life would be happier owning a Trofeo vs doing that stuff.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “my life would be happier owning a Trofeo”

            Ajla has kept the faith!

        • 0 avatar
          krhodes1

          Meh – I still have my 2011 BMW 328! wagon of Vellum Venom fame. In the now seven years out of warranty the single needed repair has been a battery, at age nine. I also added a 128i convertible to the fleet and it has been just as reliable.

          A lot to be said about buying the last years of a platform, and avoiding the first years. And the her-dur go-faster models.

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff Weimer

        Not just luxury German, VW has Audi level problems and costs.

  • avatar
    JMII

    What is a refund? I owe Uncle Sam a few Gs ever year but this is due to a strategic decision that my financial advisor fully supports.

    Agree with 28-Cars-Later’s take on the Z – the automatic convertible is a safe buy compared to beat down coupes with gold Brembos (factory track package). Like any car you can find unmolested samples. Unlike the Benz choice the platform is reliable, its the 2nd and 3rd owners that doomed these cars. Mine 350Z was showroom new, completely untouched with 18k when I bought. I almost felt bad since I did some mods: sway bars, different exhaust (not loud) and upgraded brakes. Mine saw track duty so it was USED, but not abused at 75k when I traded it. In fact I replaced the manual transmission with a later designed that avoid the crappy original 3rd gear syncros so the next owner got a better car then I had (technically speaking).

  • avatar
    Jeff S

    To quote Scotty Kilmer on the Mercedes and Range Rover “Endless money pits” in which he shows a funnel with dollar bills going down with no bottom. A well maintained Lexus LS 400 would be my choice for true luxury and reliability. As for Hoovie he has the Car Wizard to fix the Range Rover. Hoovie has paid for a couple of the Car Wizard’s boats and he has to be his best customer.

  • avatar
    tane94

    Lexus gets dinged? Kudos are not limiting the list to the usual European suspects. Now about a list of the best offerings out there for those so inclined to spend their refunds on used auto excellence?

  • avatar
    285exp

    Two and a half years ago I bought a 2006 LS430 with 83k on it for the same price they’re asking for that 2002. Runs and rides perfectly, only maintenance has been a couple of oil changes. it’s the only car I’ve ever bought that worth more a couple of years after I bought it than I paid for it.

  • avatar
    pmirp1

    When I was young and struggled for success in life, one can company turned my life around.

    That company was Toyota (feel comfortable if your choice is Honda).

    A Corolla is the best vehicle a young person can have (or a Civic). or a RAV04.

    If you want a little premium, get certified Lexus.

    Stay away from Germans at all costs. Brits owned by Germans or Indians don’t matter, they are junk.

    • 0 avatar
      Tele Vision

      @pmirp1

      My friend’s Mom has a RAV4. The original serpentine belt recently let go at 300,000 Kms. That’s been the only mechanical failure on the car since she bought it new. She’s going for 500,000 Kms. I think that she’ll make it.

    • 0 avatar
      ThomasSchiffer

      Ah yes, German cars are ‘junk’…

      I must be extremely lucky with all the German cars I have ever owned. Like my ex-2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDI which I owned from new until 600,000+ km (those were the days when I was driving 40,000+ km a year). Dead reliable car, only needed a new clutch at roughly 300,000 km and that was fine with me considering that I was driving this vehicle at its limits on the Autobahn throughout its time with me.

      Or my current 2007 Mercedes GL320 CDI 4Matic, which is approaching 420,000 km; everything works great. Bought the car used (I am the second owner) and made sure that it was purchased from an owner who took maintenance seriously and didn’t allow cheaper hobby mechanics to tinker with it. The original records show that there were no major repairs performed on the car aside from routine maintenance and the replacement of a defective A/C part.

      My brother owns a taxi business and his vehicles are predominantly Mercedes’; if these vehicles were so bad he wouldn’t use them. Once these cars hit a low 250,000 km they’re usually exported to Eastern Europe or Africa where they are in high demand. I guess the people there love ‘junk’….

      Toyota cars are overrated and have their share of issues. They are also dull to drive and have terrible ergonomics – designed with no pleasure in mind. I speak from experience. They are cars for people who want something cheap and for whom driving is a chore. And here their dealership service costs are just as expensive as local brands.

      If someone wants this E500 (or any car for that matter) then the simple thing to do is research the vehicle and be aware of what can go wrong. There’s a vibrant internet community out there of enthusiasts who like these cars and know what their weak spots are and how to permanently fix them. The second step after purchasing it is to get the hot spots fixed. And this should not be a problem if it is done properly using the correct [improved] parts and trained mechanics. Companies update parts and ensure that they will work reliably. If something continually fails after it has been ‘fixed’ then either it was not done properly or the used part is defective. I only let the manufacturer dealerships service my vehicles and avoid cheap ‘hobby mechanics’ which will actually do more harm. No matter how ‘good’ your local mechanic next door might be, these are complex cars which require specialist maintenance, which costs money.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        German cars have quite different records in Europe and North America.

        I’m inclined to blame the difference in environment. North America is a harsher environment for cars in numerous ways. We drive far more on unpaved roads than Western Europeans, and our paved roads are built to a lower standard and in worse condition. We have much wider temperature swings and more extremes of temperature in most of the continent than occur anywhere in Europe. We tend as a general rule to be less careful about maintenance. Our domestic cars are designed and primarily tested in this environment, while it is a bit of an alien environment for almost all overseas makers.

        With that said I have now owned three straight Toyota products and they have not been perfect, but very good to excellent. The Highlander Hybrid is boring to drive, but the LS 460 was assuredly not—every drive in that car carried a sense of occasion.

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff Weimer

        The diesels are pretty highly regarded, even in NA. It’s the high content gas models here that seem to have the most problems, and repairs are either expensive or involved and require specialized tools for what would be a simpler job on other cars. Also, vacuum operated door locks always seemed to me to be too much extra complexity for little to no reason.

      • 0 avatar
        pmirp1

        ThomasSchiffer, Germans used to make good cars. In 1960s, 1970s, and last in 1980s. Dad had VW bug then a 190 (was a 1960s four door) that was bulletproof. Then they went full luxury and electric and too complex and gimmicks and lost their way. Add to that outsourcing to other countries. Even in Germany low quality labor.

        I bought a brand new BMW 530i in 2004. It was time I was trying to be cool. sports trim. Straight six very smooth engine. One of the first generations idrive. A disaster. Active Steering went bad as car refused to steer easily, steering rack replaced (under warranty). Cost would have been $6000. Run flat tires that cost me $2,000-$3,000 to replace. Happened 3 times. Idiotic warning lights that came on for no reason and that damn bang noise. I did not feel confident taking that car out of town on long drives, I did take it to Disney one time and never again. Junk is an understatement for German cars, but that BMW was the best handling sedan I ever owned. Never again. It was always serviced by dealer I bought it from. So glad to be rid of it.

        Germans are no different than Americans. They have outsourced so much. Two Christmases ago I bought a set of Wusthoff steak knives for Mrs. When we opened box (box was very nice) I was sickened to see made in China on them. Sad.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        I’ll also point out your positive experiences are drawn on a pre-EPA ruined TDI and CDI and those are more or less unobtanium in Freedumbland.

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        There seems to be something involved in crossing the Atlantic that negatively impacts vehicle or their designs. After all Peugeots and Renaults were also considered ‘reliable’ in most other parts of the world. But never in North America.

        VW started experiencing quality issues in the early 1970s. The Type IV while well designed (in theory) and with some features that were either optional or then unavailable on domestic vehicles was also prone to ‘electronic glitches’ which have seemed to plague VW’s ever since. Also the ‘squeaky brake’ syndrome which VWs routinely suffered from for decades. The self destructing exhaust systems came later.

        And then there are the service issues. The requirement to use the “correct [improved] parts and trained mechanics”. Yes pay through the nose for parts and service from dealers who never admit the fault lies with the ‘engineering’.

        Anecdotally I too have found that a car driven lots of miles for a relatively short period of time (2 to years) holds up much better than a vehicle driven short distances for a longer period of time. Possibly due to increased maintenance cycles?

        As for what to purchase with a tax refund if a) I got a refund and b) I was impulsive enough to spend it on a vehicle, then my answer would probably be an older Corvette.

        Toyotas are not for someone who wants a ‘cheap’

  • avatar
    dal20402

    I don’t buy the stated mileage on that Lexus. The interior is far too far gone.

  • avatar
    Tele Vision

    I’m obviously biased but has anyone considered a Gen I CTS-V? I did six months of research before I bought my 2007 and apart from a few driveway repairs it’s dead reliable. I’ve seen plenty going for USD$12,000 – and the odd USD$9000 fixer-upper. 400HP/395TQ; six-speed manual; and loaded with just four original options: Exterior colour; interior colour; sunroof delete; and uprated shocks.

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    Don’t forget to budget a few thousand for the rear differential upgrade. (Well, okay, maybe you don’t need to if you’re going to drive it like a DTS, but in that case you should have bought a DTS.)

    • 0 avatar
      Tele Vision

      @bumpy ii

      The 2004-2005 CTS-Vs had what is commonly referred to as ‘The Glass Diff’. This opinion was formed by the probable third owners who popped the clutch on the daily, thinking that they’d bought an Race Car.

      GM did address the differential issues on the 2006-2007 models but these cars are not race cars. They’re sports sedans – complete with rear seats and trunks. Parts for them are dead cheap and, as it’s essentially a CTS with a small-block Chevy engine, dead easy to install with just a socket set and a floor jack. This is both good and bad.

      To wit: I despise seeing turbo-charged or ‘Maggied’ CTS-Vs on Mickeys and skinnies leaving the line with said skinnies in the air – and then reading about the blown clutch/diff/driveshaft. Would anyone mod a period RS6 or M5 or C63 in the same manner? Hellz no.

      I keep the weak link in my drivetrain at the tires. I can pop the clutch and waste rubber whenever I want on the Continentals with no fear of wreaking the differential or halfshafts. Still, I don’t do so.

      I highly recommend these cars if you can both find an unmolested one ( good luck ); and then drive it the way it was meant to be driven: well; hard; and sensibly…

  • avatar
    Mike Beranek

    At the other end of the spectrum-
    Ford Panthers (civilian models, not PIs) if you don’t mind the fuel bill
    Any GM with a 3800, assuming it hasn’t rusted to oblivion
    Any Toyota Camry 4-cyl, just watch out for those bad head bolt years
    Any of these cars will run forever because they’re dirt-cheap to repair.

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    “IMPRESS THE NEIGHBORS”
    Most of my neighbors are at least as dumb (and irritating) as me. Why would I want to impress them?

    “THE MID-LIFE CRISIS CONVERTIBLE”
    If my testicles ever fall off, I might consider purchasing a convertible automobile. Until then, no.

    “THE ONE THAT STARTED IT ALL”
    Land Rover?? This is why automotive journalists (and former dealership employees) [and automotive journalists who are former dealership employees] have no credibility.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Precisely, I only care about impressing myself.

      “If my testicles ever fall off, I might consider purchasing a convertible automobile”

      I assure you mine are still attached and my drop top is fun in roughly 70 plus degree weather. Why the hate?

      • 0 avatar
        ToolGuy

        Since I’ve never thought about it much:
        a) Higher cost
        b) More weight (more slowness)
        c) Less stiffness (cowl shake, handling, cornering, et al.)
        d) Added complexity
        e) Low-volume parts means reduced service part availability (and higher parts pricing)
        f) Noise with the top up (and Noise/Vibration/Harshness in general)
        g) Security with the top up
        h) Water leaks with the top up
        i) Safety [Crashworthiness]: Rollover/ejection (Bonus: Molotov cocktails)
        j) Safety [Crash avoidance]: Poor visibility with top up
        k) Significantly reduced storage/cargo capacity
        l) Stupid looks and stupid comments from strangers with the top down
        m) Relatively ugly with the top up
        n) Top is weathered – time to replace the top again
        o) Generally poor business case (for the OEM, the upfitter and the customer)
        p) Can trigger a string of bad decisions
        q) Sunburn
        r) Can’t hear you – what?
        s) Bad hair
        t) Very limited slate of vehicles to choose from
        u) Some of the world’s best automakers don’t make them (wonder why)
        v) Stereotypes (you can list them – none of them incredibly flattering)
        w) Do they drive convertibles in NASCAR? No, they don’t.
        x) If I wanted a motorcycle I would get one. (I don’t.)
        y) This section intentionally left blank.
        z) Without getting into too much specificity about my medical condition(s), the hot soccer mom in the massive weighty high-riding Suburban one lane over needs to focus on the road, not be distracted by staring down at me with no roof to shield things from view. [As stated above, if things ever self-correct, I may re-evaluate.]

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          a) Fair enough, but modified models usually do.
          b) How, its missing a steel roof?
          c) True, but it depends on execution. I assure the the C7 ‘vert does not suffer these issues.
          d) True
          e) True, ask me how I know.
          f) Haven’t experienced this, but I don’t DD mine and have only rented others.
          g) Wrangler owners used to experience the same back in the 90s, not sure its the issue it once was.
          h) True, but sunroofs can/do also leak.
          i) No issue, but I have a Volvo with ROPS.
          j) True, but not in all cases.
          k) Going to go with N/A, since every one but a Wrangler is in coupe form to begin with.
          l) Idiots are everywhere, ignore or mock them.
          m) Subjective.
          n) True, though hard tops do not suffer from this issue.
          o) So is the fake SUV, yet here we are.
          p) ?
          q) True.
          r) Better examples come with wind screens to lessen wind noise.
          s) Wear a hat.
          t) True.
          u) Most have at one time or another, the only major automaker I can think of which has *never * fielded an example is Hyundai.
          v) Vette owner’s have a hair old man with gold chains stereotype, is that accurate in The_Current_Year?
          w) N/A
          x) Not really the same.
          y) Ok.
          z) Apparently you being attractive to her is the problem, remedy it.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            (b) The structural reinforcement necessary to chop off the roof without the thing turning into spaghetti usually weighs more than the roof. Look around at convertible curb weights – they’re pretty much always higher.

            (g) This is why I’ve kind of given up on the convertible idea. It’s unlikely I’ll be able to park a car other than the Legend in the garage in the near future and it’s just a matter of (not very much) time before a soft-top convertible parked on the street gets the top slashed.

            (l) (p) (v) are all the same point, and what I said to Jack Baruth for years (to no effect) applies equally to all of you: true masculinity is in not giving a [email protected] what the peanut gallery thinks.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            B. I did not realize this, thank you.

            G. I’m not sure if the rear of C70 MKII is large enough for your children, but its a hard top ‘vert that isn’t of zee Germans (though the roof design probably is since my I recently found my MKI’s def is). The soft top MKI comfortably seats four adults but has several sticky points.

            I.,P.,V. Winning!

  • avatar
    cimarron typeR

    I’d pick the Z of those listed. It’s the HR model w/ the updated higher reving VQ and it seems I see lezz vert Zs driven by the Drifto crowd, so it’s probably in decent shape. Regardless parts are dirt cheap for this platform having owned a couple of G’s

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    Art Vandelay

    I finally got my witholding correct this year so I got a pair of nice noise canceling Sony Earbuds for traveling.

    If you can buy a car with your return you may want to go see HR and look at your witholding

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