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Our friends over at Motor1 have been busy today.
First it’s the rumor about the next-gen Honda Civic Type R getting a big power boost and all-wheel drive, and now they’re reporting that a version of the Toyota Supra might get a big power bump, bigger than what the car got in 2021.
Well, actually, it’s Japanese Web site BestCarWeb.jp, the same site that surfaced the Civic rumors, doing the reporting – Motor1 is just aggregating the info, same as I am right now, after translating it.
Boring stuff out of the way, let’s take a peek at the report. The rumor is that the Supra will use the twin-turbo inline-six-cylinder that’s planned for the next BMW M3/M4, which should displace 3.0-liters. The Supra is already basically a BMW in Toyota clothing, so this makes sense.
The report claims the Supra would get the same horsepower number as the BWM Competition models – 510. A seven-speed DCT automatic gearbox would get that power to the rear wheels.
This engine would be in a specific model of the Supra, dubbed GRMN. Apparently, according to reports, BMW was reluctant to share this engine. Perhaps because the same report suggests that the GRMN car, targeted for the 2023 model year and rumored to sell in extremely limited production – only 200 units – would mark the beginning of the end for the Supra in general, with the 2025 model year marking the end for all Supra models.
Oh, and one more thing – the reporting suggests a GRMN of this ilk would cost $112,000, which is around double the sticker price of current Supras.
Again, though, like the Civic Type R report from this morning – these kinds of things need to be taken with heaps of salt. The Japanese report claims some of the info comes from Toyota’s lead on the Supra, Tetsuya Tada, but even if that’s true, it doesn’t mean a heck of a lot just yet. All the translated report seems to suggest is that Tada said Toyota overcame BMW resistance to using the engine.
We reached out to Toyota for comment and we were reminded that the company does not talk about future product or rumored future product.
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The BMW Z4, er Toyota Supra, now with even less reliability!
“the reporting suggests a GRMN of this ilk would cost $112,000”
So more than an LC500 and likely more than an M3/M4?
This car seems to have a goiter problem on it’s roof. Get some iodine bro!
Seems like it has tumors all over it.
So in addition to being ugly it will now be crazy expensive all while still not actually being a Toyota.
I would take anything coming out of Best Car with a grain of salt.
It’s an automotive version of a supermarket tabloid full of unsubstantiated rumors, and usually not even that.
Looking at the original link, there’s so much qualifiers and assumptions that make the whole content meaningless.
What I got was: there *should* be a high performance version of Supra eventually, just *because*. And *if* there is to be one, it *should* be a boosted version of M3/M4 engine because Supra is BMW. Since Supra is closed body, it *should* be able to handle the engine where Z4 cannot. We’ve *heard* that Supra’s EOL will be 2025, so this *should* come around 2023 or so, and we’d *guess* a price will be around $112,000.
Zero source mentioned for any of this.
Still have yet to see one where I live, have seen numerous C8 Corvettes though.
Beaten with an ugly stick.
I have 2 87’s and the new ones are ugly as hell.
“This engine would be in a specific model of the Supra, dubbed GRMN”
One hopes this is the designation for the car, as a BMW engine nicknamed “Gremlin” would be entirely on-brand.
GRMN, Are you German? (5th Element Quote)
V8 swaps for Jeeps are a dime-a-dozen in the aftermarket world. A buddy of mine after going through nightmare problems with the engine in his Jeep found out a 5.7 swap would have been cheaper for him.