Piston Slap: Parked in the Polar Vortex?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta
V writes:Here are two questions from a regular, and grateful, Piston Slap reader:
  1. How long is best to idle a gasoline engine after starting & before driving off: [A] a few minutes? one minute? [C] until the revs settle down? no need, just drive right off? Assume ambient temperature well above freezing; a shifting style on the sedate side; and a car made in the past 15 years so engine has EFI and EGR and all that. Current ride’s engine is naturally-aspirated and direct-injected, but I sure would appreciate knowing the proper protocol for other combinations too, if different. Several sources over the past years have all agreed on for modern engines, but then just a few months back a Car & Driver column said [A], so now I’m unsure again.
  2. Leaving a car (stick shift *of course*) parked: best in gear, best in neutral, or doesn’t matter? Assume the parking space is either not sloped at all, or is sloped and I know enough to turn a front wheel into the curb toward the down slope.
Sajeev Answers:Thank you for contributing and reading! To your first question: not much changed since our last discussion. But were the words “ Polar Vortex” as commonplace in our lexicon back then? Probably, but work with me here! Let’s include engine warm up in the polar vortex: peep this Oil Viscosity Chart to ensure your oil didn’t turn into molasses overnight. If so, let the motor warm up for many, many minutes to let the oil thin out (provided you aren’t using an engine block heater!). More to the point, while restoring my 1989 Lincoln Continental (the aforementioned Pilot Fish), I thumbed through the shop manual’s chapter on Ford’s Insta-clear windshield: while not a popular success, it personifies the engineering effort working to reduce stress in awful weather for both car and driver.Because there’s more to the story than the engine: your glass is iced up, you need to clear snow from the roof/perimeter, your wiper blades/tires are petrified, etc. Long story short: Option D is still the best for the (not carbureted!) engine, but if you’re in the depth of a polar vortex, consider warming up time for the rest of the vehicle. And perhaps your sanity, too. Second question?Park in first gear, add the parking brake and turn aforementioned the wheels if it’s really hilly. Since Houston is flat and totally geographically boring, I just park in 1st. On seriously steep ramps (i.e. flood protection down here), engaging the parking brake before going into 1st isn’t a bad idea. That makes the drivetrain a secondary brake, which isn’t a big concern with a clutch (easily released before starting) but it’s a great idea on an automatic transmission’s inflexible on-off lock mechanism. Have you ever heard a terrible noise when dropping an automatic out of park on a steep hill?
Back to manuals, do only park it in first gear: numerically higher gears require more wheel rotations to move the rest of the drivetrain. What’s great for jackrabbit starts is also great for holding the vehicle on not-perfectly flat ground…Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.[Image: © Timothy Cain/TTAC]
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  • LD LD on Feb 10, 2019

    I wish more cars had an oil temperature gauge. My Chrysler 300 has a digital oil temperature gauge, besides a digital engine coolant and digital transmission temperature gauge. Here in Canada in winters that is a very useful indicator as to whether the engine has reached it's normal operating temperature. I normally wait for engine rpms to drop below 1000 on a cold start up before driving off slowly. Keep the rpms and engine load low. And even if my trip is short, I try and get the engine oil to get up to it's normal operating temperature which is at least 75 Celsius to 80 Celsius.

    • Scoutdude Scoutdude on Feb 10, 2019

      Yeah EOT is a nice thing to know. Unfortunately not many cars give you access to that information even if they have a sensor for it. Many cars with variable valve timing have an oil temp sensor and with the right scan tool you can read its value. It can take a fair amount of driving after the coolant is up to temp to get the oil up to temp.

  • George B George B on Feb 11, 2019

    I start the car, wait a few seconds before putting the engine into gear, and then let it warm up by driving slowly/low RPM with very little load on the engine while driving on the residential streets in my neighborhood. No fuel wasted sitting idling as the engine warms up and 10 mph reduces trip time as compared to 0 mph. By the time I get to the main side streets, the coolant temperature is warm enough to heat the car and I drive with moderate acceleration.

  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh A prelude is a bad idea. There is already Acura with all the weird sport trims. This will not make back it's R&D money.
  • Analoggrotto I don't see a red car here, how blazing stupid are you people?
  • Redapple2 Love the wheels
  • Redapple2 Good luck to them. They used to make great cars. 510. 240Z, Sentra SE-R. Maxima. Frontier.
  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
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