By on September 28, 2018

2018 Lincoln Navigator, Image: Ford Motor Company

Today’s subjects are ponderous, expensive, and very heavy. No, we’re not talking about state government representatives; we’re talking about full-size SUVs.

Come along, and we’ll select a big truck to burn.

The common thread of today’s SUV trio is an $85,000 price point. We’re being economical and practical here.

Lincoln Navigator

The newest design of our trio, the Navigator was (finally) all-new for the 2018 model year. After a decade-long third generation which, underneath, was essentially a modification of the Navigator from 2003, the big truck stepped up its game. Riding on the same Ford’s T3 truck platform as its Ford F-150 and Expedition corporate siblings, the Navigator is built in Louisville, Kentucky.

As the most expensive offering from Lincoln, prices start — for a base two-wheel drive model — at just over $73,000. Today’s example is the $85,205 Reserve trim. Four-wheel drive comes standard, as does a panoramic glass roof. Standard leather interior is available in four colors, just not the Black Label ones. Ford’s EcoBoost 3.5-liter V6 powers all Navigators, sending 450 horsepower through the 10-speed automatic.

Cadillac Escalade

Cadillac introduced the new K2XX generation Escalade (the model’s fourth iteration) for 2015. Sharper styling and a greater emphasis on tech are the new model’s selling points — along with the valuable Escalade lettering scrawled across the tailgate. As the pinnacle of Cadillac’s offering, Escalade is assembled at the former B-body sedan plant in Arlington, Texas.

The base Escalade starts at just over $75,000, and nobody buys that one. They do buy today’s upper-mid Luxury 4WD trim though, for $83,795. Cadillac’s CUE infotainment system is standard, as well as active noise cancellation. At this price point, no-cost interior options are black or light tan leather. All Escalades feature a 6.2-liter Chevrolet V8 engine producing 420 horsepower, paired to a 10-speed automatic.

Lexus LX 570

The last car of our trio is also the one you’re least likely to see in traffic, and the oldest design of our group. Introduced as a third-generation model on the Land Cruiser J200 platform in 2007, the LX 570 was heavily facelifted in 2015 to keep up with its more modern competition. The selling point of the LX is the legendary Land Cruiser reliability underneath, and the luxury tinsel applied liberally over the top.

Price differentials between the LX and Land Cruiser have dwindled over the years, and are now distinguished only by the number of seats. The two-row LX 570 is nearly exactly the same price as the three-row Land Cruiser, at $85,630. Lexus charges just under $5,000 to add the third row to your LX. We declined. A large center screen and all luxuries come standard — the only option is a Luxury Package for nicer seats and additional climate control. At the base level, we have a choice of black leather with espresso wood trim or parchment leather with mocha trim. All LX models are powered by Toyota’s 5.7-liter V8, which directs an old school 383 horsepower through the eight-speed automatic.

Big SUVs, big money, and mostly big power. Which one’s the Buy?

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81 Comments on “Buy/Drive/Burn: Three Big and Luxurious 2018 SUVs...”


  • avatar
    gtem

    Buy LX
    Drive Navi
    Burn ‘slade

    • 0 avatar
      SSJeep

      Tough call for me. They are all good vehicles nowadays – and all egregiously expensive. I can see buying the LX because it will hold value – but it is underpinned by an ages old platform and the only thing it has going for it is past reliability. The Navi and Slade are also excellent in their current iteration.

      I would probably buy the Escalade, drive the Navi and burn the LX. While reliability is important to me, Id be more willing to go for a modern platform with up to date tech and infotainment – that isnt based on the terrible Entune…

      • 0 avatar
        gtem

        The way I look at it, for a truly long buy-and-hold, just take a look at how a 1998 Land Cruiser with 200k miles generally looks like and how it drives, and how a ’98 Navigator and Escalade do (but imagine they now have 20 year old infotainment screens and do-dads). The LC200 platform trucks are egregiously expensive on our shores, but it is perhaps the closest one can get to “old school” Toyota quality, except for crappy weak paint of course.

        I think the interior in the new Nav looks incredible and it seems to indeed be very nice in person and to the touch, and it has the best interior packaging. I don’t dislike the ‘slade, it’s just what’s left over in the trio.

    • 0 avatar
      MoDo

      Its a funny discussion considering these huge SUV’s were available for pennies on the dollar this time 10 years ago. I remember back then a guy getting a couple year old Navigator for $5500

      • 0 avatar
        gtem

        Yep. I’d say the the used Land Cruisers did better than anyone else as far as resale even in the depths of the recession and high gas, but man what a time that would have been to scoop up a clean Navigator or Expedition or a big GM, or a fire-sale Tundra. I actually really like the gen 1 Expedition, I think they will get increasingly popular with the “overlanding” crowd as Toyota stuff climbs into the stratosphere.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      ‘Tis true gtem.

  • avatar
    kenwood

    Buy and drive them all. Burn gas. Viva La Sport Utility Broughams!

  • avatar
    VW4motion

    Crazy prices and I see these vehicles on the road everyday. Coworker is trading in his Range Rover for a new Navigator. Says it’s the best suv on the road. I’m not sure about his conclusions.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Buy LX and hold for silly high resale value.

    Drive Navigator because I never tow anything and the IRS will be nice and smooth, I live at altitude so turbo is appreciated. (I’ll probably laugh every time the turbos spool up.)

    Burn the Escalade for being built on the site where the Most Holy B-body was being built until GM made a cynical move on par with Ford canceling all sedans.

  • avatar
    jack4x

    I’d buy the Caddy for the V8 alone.

    I’d buy the Gator to enjoy its best in class interior.

    And I would burn the Lexus, somewhat reluctantly. Ugly exterior styling and non-intuitive touchpad controls wreck the experience. Plus its silly to me to buy a truck this big without a 3rd row. If this could be a regular Land Cruiser, that would be my pick to buy without question.

  • avatar
    Scoutdude

    This is an easy one, buy the ‘gator, drive the ‘lade and kill the LX with fire.

  • avatar
    Sub-600

    Buy the LX/Drive the Lincoln/Save the matches and just leave the Escalade parked on any street in my neighborhood, it’ll be gone in about twenty minutes.

  • avatar
    87 Morgan

    This is tough one, I will go with what I know.

    Drive: I WANT to spend time in the Escalade, so therefore this is the one I am going to drive! Nothing is more glorious than an LS 6.2 liter. A reason exists why every resto-modder out there uses this engine..

    Burn & Buy: Honestly, I think I would buy the Navi. The Lexus is nice and all, sure it has decent resale. But honestly who cares? The technology in them is old and I really don’t find the Toyota interiors to be all that and a bag of potato chips like most.

    Burn: Lexus; I had this discussion this week with a car dealer who owns a Lexus, MB, LR/RR & Porsche dealership, he agreed the Lexus, any of them, are pretty much the automotive equivalent of a nap. He also agreed that LR/RR customers are the most loyal mosaicists out there. They just know they will come to the shop, but they love their RR’s.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      Until the others realize outward visibility is of paramount importance to small women driving big, tall vehicles; RR/LR will continue to sell splendidly. Never mind how carsick their kids get, wallowing around up there. Sorority girls like Wranglers for the same reason: They can actually see the ground closer than 100 yards from their SUV. Powerbulges, Peterbilt grilles and their attendant beltlines, just don’t work all that well, for the main market for today’s “offroad” vehicles.

  • avatar
    JimZ

    Buy Navigator
    Drive ‘slade
    Burn the Lexus.

    along with everything else Lexus offers.

  • avatar
    Hummer

    Buy the Escalade because it’s a Suburban underneath with all the fantastic truckigoodness that comes with that, solid rear axle and best engine in class make it the easy choice.

    Drive the LX because despite its weird front end it is a land cruiser under all that make up.

    Burn the navigator, it’s looks horrible in real life, it’s like a child in his dad’s clothes, it looks uncomfortable, distressed and like the design team ran out of money when it got to the lower 1/4 of the body as well as the rear end, makes me uncomfortable just seeing one. Plus it has the boring ecoboost and pointless IRS.

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      Hummer – prototype Tahoes and Yukons have been spotted running around with IRS likely for the next refresh/renewal of the model.

      What are you going to do then when there are no full size BOF SUVs with solid axle?

      • 0 avatar
        gtem

        Drive his current 4Runner for the next 30 years, which I think in his dry(?) climate is entirely a reasonable thing to expect out of that rig.

        • 0 avatar
          PrincipalDan

          But he’s always blasted FORD for the IRS and how much better the GMT platform SUVs were. (While most of the folks here on TTAC tried to argue that most owners care way more about ride quality than any solid axle advantages.)

          • 0 avatar
            JohnTaurus

            Its also about room in the 3rd row as well. Despite the fact that he’ll say “it looks uncomfortable”, it is far more comfortable to anyone who doesn’t sit in it trying their hardest to think up reasons to hate it.

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus

        He’ll just have more reasons to b¡tch in between making up reasons to justify his bias. Great selection of Hemi Dakotas and all.

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        Both GM and Ford should offer solid axle/leaf spring SUVs based off their HD truck platforms.

        Then they can minivan/CUV-up the lighter duty stuff as much as they want.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ


          Both GM and Ford should offer solid axle/leaf spring SUVs based off their HD truck platforms.”

          who- apart from 3 or 4 Internet People- is actually asking for that?

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            I think once there is an IRS Tahoe, Yukon, Suburban et all there would be demand for a 3/4 ton Suburban/Yukon XL for the type of people who want to tow a horse trailer or Airstream etc but have lots of locking storage that a pickup truck doesn’t provide.

            The development costs would have to be low.

        • 0 avatar
          gtem

          Toyota seemed to catch that drift a while back when they decided to develop parallel-sized offerings of softer crossovers (Highlander) and BOF midsize SUV (4Runner) rather than taking the 4Runner name and slapping it on some FWD-sedan based weakling (read: Pathfinder, Explorer, upcoming Blazer).

          • 0 avatar
            James2

            Could it also be because Toyota is so damn slow at updating their vehicles/platforms that they caught a break?

          • 0 avatar
            gtem

            I don’t think so, the Highlander came out right in time for the beginning of the midsize crossover SUV phase (kicked off by the RX300/Harrier from which the platform originated), that caught the tail end of the 3rd gen 4Runner. The 4Runner for ’03 (read: global Land Cruiser Prado 120) was all new. Where Toyota does leverage an advantage is that the Land Cruiser Prado continues to be a huge seller globally, so development costs for the 4Runner’s platform are mostly already paid for. Others may not have this advantage, although I’d argue Nissan, Chevy, Ford, and Kia all have BOF midsize SUVs sold globally that they could federalize if they really wanted to.

    • 0 avatar
      Hummer

      WTF happened on my post while I was gone

      First principal tells me GMs frcking up its last legacy product that still has a decent name to it, alongside a mid engine DOHC vette, a Blazer minivan, 4 cylinder truck, no more sweet LT1 CTSV, and now this – who the hell is GM marketing to? This is a disaster brings Lutz out of retirement for Christ sake.

      Then Johnny does his typical nonsensical douchey stuff

      And somehow Sub got banned for something?

      Apparently I missed a lot.

  • avatar
    Drew8MR

    I’d happily burn them all and [email protected]# on the ashes. What an absolutely idiotic class of vehicle.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      They’re as good as it gets for taking your family Airstreaming… At least for those who don’t want a crewcab.

    • 0 avatar
      jack4x

      Not that I expect to convince you, but these three are about as authentic as it gets when it comes to SUVs. Real frames, real 4×4 with low range, real towing capacities, real cargo space. For large families with towing needs, there is nothing else that fits the bill.

      Save your ire for overpriced crossovers that do nothing better than a minivan.

      • 0 avatar
        Drew8MR

        For the price of one of these you could have a dedicated tow vehicle and a reasonable form of DD. Kind of how it’s better to just have a track car and a street car, instead of a car that’s not ideal for either. I guess if you just absolutely needed your tow vehicle to be brand new inside for the 3,maybe4 times a year it gets used. But,of course you’re a super user and tow 10k lbs multiple times a week yada yada.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          oh look, he thinks people buy these things based on price.

          we’re talking about $85k+ vehicles here, not beat up Civics sitting on a BHPH lot just waiting for some Jalop to sign a usurious note on it (with mom co-signing.)

  • avatar
    JohnTaurus

    Buy the Lincoln Navigator (surprised?)

    Drive the Lexus LX (surprised?)

    Burn the Cadillac Escalade (not much of a surprise)

    The 3rd rows in solid axle SUVs are basically useless for adults, so I’ll take the Lexus without one over the Caddy. I don’t hate the Escalade, but I don’t care much for it, either. It’d be more of a draw between it and the Lexus if the LX had a 3rd row.

    Btw, $5k for a 3rd row? WTF?

  • avatar
    volvo

    Buy LX
    Drive Navigator
    Burn Escalade

    But actually I would Buy and Drive the LX.

  • avatar
    RedRocket

    This one’s easy.

    Buy the Escalade.
    Drive the Navigator.
    Burn the ancient LX.

  • avatar
    hifi

    Burn the LX because it’s a hideous dinosaur.

    Actually… burn all three and do a two-year lease on a Range Rover. Or a Model X, and have something that’s fun to drive.

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    Buy the Escalade as it’s the best

    Drive the Lexus

    Burn the Lincoln Expedition as it’s a Ford as it’s going to burn at some point anyway.

  • avatar
    Dan C

    buy lx
    drive nav
    burn escalade, gm must have the worst packaging and interior quality. my 98 land cruiser was more solid and nice inside then my 2004 escalade. and the LC was worth 14% of its value with 200k on it and 16 years on the clock

    • 0 avatar
      ernest

      Sadly the 2000-2005 Escalade/Denali wasn’t GM’s best effort. We owned three Expeditions during that time period because of niggly gremlins that didn’t go away, even after the ’04 refresh. Guage clusters and speed sensors were the worst offenders. We dropped kicked our 2000 Suburban in ’03 for the first of three Expeditions.

  • avatar
    dukeisduke

    The Arlington plant was for many years an A-Body assembly plant (Malibu/Cutlass/Monte Carlo), when all three were white-hot sellers (the mid to late ’70s). That’s what they were building the first time I toured the plant, in 1977.

  • avatar
    ernest

    Easiest pick of the week.

    Buy the Escalade. There’s a reason the Escalade outsells all other large luxury SUV’s in this class COMBINED. At a pricetag approaching six figures, it sure isn’t price, that’s for sure.

    Drive the Navigator. Just wish the 6.2 was offered along with the ecoboost.

    Burn the LX. It pains me to say this, but at the miniscule sales volumes, it just isn’t relevant to the market segment anymore.

  • avatar
    SixspeedSi

    I’m not 100% I’m okay with my answer, but here goes nothing.

    Buy: Navigator – Call me a sucker for new things, but this SUV has them. Great, modern interior. The rear end styling is a little much for me, but I don’t have to see that when driving. Kudos to Lincoln for making the segment hot again.

    Drive – LX. I’m torn here. On one hand, the LX is reliable but somewhat outdated. However, when I was younger (early 2000’s), I loved getting a chance to sit in these things at the autoshow. Thought they were way cooler than the Lincoln/Caddy at the time. So for nostalgic reasons, I’m keeping this one around.

    Burn – I’m making a rap video and burning at the same time. Would take the motor out if possible ;) Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

  • avatar
    Vulpine

    Burn the Lincoln — the brand is notorious for is lack of quality;

    Drive the Lexus — it’s just too damned ugly to buy;

    Buy the Caddy — … and sell it on the grey market overseas.

  • avatar
    seth1065

    Ok w regret but using the rules here goes

    Buy the Lexes – can not believe I want that grill but gotta buy something
    Drive the Caddy – just so DW can freak out Caddy does nothing right and it is better looking than the tarted up Ford
    Buy said tarted up ford , in the pic sullied it is by far the worst looking and that is saying something.

  • avatar
    arach

    Screw the rules/

    Drive them all.
    Burn them all in about 5 years
    Buy none of them.

  • avatar
    IBx1

    Buy the Lexus since they’ll last forever

    Drive the Navigator to enjoy its serene interior design

    Drop the Tahoe

  • avatar
    Lightspeed

    Buy and drive them all, we’ll never see their kind again.

  • avatar
    R Henry

    Pass. I don’t want to be late to my colonoscopy.

  • avatar
    FWD Donuts

    Buy Lincoln
    Drive Escalade
    Burn that hideous Lexus

    That is all.

  • avatar
    Jeff S

    Not interested in any of these land aircraft carriers. Don’t need to tow and don’t need to haul people around. Eventually all these types of vehicles will be extinct as the luxury land yachts of the 70s (Chevy Caprice, Pontiac Grandville, Olds 98, Buick Electra 225, Cadillac Sedan Deville, Ford LTD, Mercury Grand Marquis, Chrysler 5th Avenue, Dodge Grand Monaco, Plymouth Grand Fury, and Imperial). If you want one of these behemoths wait for the next economic meltdown.

    • 0 avatar
      SaulTigh

      Not denying that there are probably more environmental and technology enthusiasts running around these day (I’m being charitable in my language), and some people live in cramped cities and have smaller vehicles thrust upon them out of necessity, but America never really gave up it’s love of the powerful, full-size vehicle. I have long maintained that were it not for the market-skewing effects of CAFE regulations, after the oil shocks wore off Americans would have gone right back to the big cars. Trucks and SUV’s weren’t held to the same standard and thus were available to satisfy that desire.

      As to your last sentence, I cannot wait until the next melt down. I work in an industry that typically does well in such times, and I’ve spent all this time since the last crash getting my own financial house in nearly perfect order. I’ll be ready to buy when the time comes, both vehicles and real estate. Another housing crash would be glorious.

  • avatar
    brn

    All are solid vehicles, so the reliability argument is moot.

    Buy the Ford for the incredible ride and zillion way seats.

    Drive the Chevy so I can pretend I’m a pimp for a day.

    Burn the Toyota because it didn’t meet one of the above criteria and I follow the rules.

    • 0 avatar
      gtem

      “All are solid vehicles, so the reliability argument is moot.”

      The Navi and ‘slade are certainly ahead of Germans in terms of longer term running costs, but are you serious? One of this trio is rigorously engineered for a 25 year lifespan in 3rd world offroad conditions, including things like reinforced sheetmetal near the seat rails and other crazy stuff. The other two are not, and are loaded up with stuff like automatic running boards and other gingerbread (a significant part of which is chinese and Malay on the GM) just waiting to quit functioning out of warranty.

  • avatar
    Dan

    A tough question because I actually like them all.

    Buy is easy, that’s thinking in dollars and the LX is the only one that’ll be worth anything in 2025 and not crushed yet in 2030.

    Drive the Escalade. It has the 6.2, it’s that simple. And in this fantasy land where I’m buying a $100,000 truck I can also fantasize about parking it somewhere that hip-hop isn’t so the smell won’t rub off on me.

    Burn the Navigator. Not because it’s bad, it just doesn’t fit either of the other categories.

  • avatar
    Carlson Fan

    Drive – The Caddy for the fabulous 6.2 V8 under the hood and the solid rear axle for towing. Push rod roller cam V8 FTW!

    Buy – The Navigator, for its interior/exterior and the low end grunt of the twin turbo V6.

    Burn – The hideous looking Lexus with its goofy proportions then push the fire ball off a cliff with either the Caddy or Lincoln. Too small and both the Lincoln or Caddy get the better fuel economy and are superior tow vehicles.

  • avatar
    ernest

    At the risk of sounding a bit pretentious and obnoxious:

    1. As a Luxury Sedan, the Mercedes S-Class is the undisputed king of that segment. Tesla? Don’t make me laugh- I’ll reserve judgement if they’re still in business in five years.

    2. In the US, the Escalade carries the same position with big luxury SUV’s. Don’t assume the Lexus is as capable, willl last as long, or be more reliable (not that these attributes concern the first owner).

    3. For pickups, a Ford F450 Platinum Crew is the King of that Hill. Everyone else is second best- period.

    If you bought all three, you’d have about $350,000 parked in the driveway or outbuildings. Come on out and I’ll shock you at how many driveways line up just like that.

    Nothing more entertaining than rednecks with money (I are one) ;-)

    • 0 avatar
      ToddAtlasF1

      A 200,000 mile Land Cruiser has as much life left in it as an Escalade rolling off the assembly line as you read this. There are some things an Escalade excels in that an LX does not, but durability and reliability are not those things. It’s true that most people buy big SUVs and expensive pickups every other year, which is why the big sellers age like diapers. Come to think of it, that’s something they have in common with German cars.

      • 0 avatar
        gtem

        “Don’t assume the Lexus is as capable, willl last as long, or be more reliable ”

        No, I think we’re all assuming it will last longer and be significantly more reliable.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      LOL. The Lexus is a lightly reskinned version of the vehicle currently providing most international assistance in your friendly local desert war zone. It’ll be fine over time.

      Land Cruisers and LXes are pretty much the only vehicles you will find where an example with over 300,000 miles can sell for a five-figure price if in good condition.

  • avatar
    rhduff

    Burn all three. Stupid Useless Vehicles that are overweight, hideously ugly, ungainly, inefficient, clumsy, and antiquated.

    • 0 avatar
      el scotto

      Unless you need to haul a trailer (racecar/horse trailers come to mind) or a boat. Plus four people in effortless comfort and all their “stuff”. All three are based off a truck, so yeah; they’ll be heavy. Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. I work with engineers who think Hawaiian shirts tucked into their khakis makes them cool. No, their not really that inefficient for what they’re called on to do. You’re be redundant using ungainly and clumsy in the same sentence. The 1st Suburban was built in 1935 and most B-52s are older than the pilots flying them. They’re doing exactly what they designed to do and doing it very well. Sorry we have more toys than you.

  • avatar
    mashedpotatoes

    Buy: Lincoln. Looks pretty… acceptable.

    Drive: Escalade. Big ol’ V8 with real truck underpinnings. That’s what makes it fun to drive. I see probably ten times more of these than the other two.

    Burn: LX. Probably the most reliable but good lord is it ever ugly. That scowling plastic face puts me off like nobody’s business.

    Around where I live most people don’t go for body on frame SUVs and instead go for big pickup trucks. Mostly F-150s and Silverados. I’d probably rather buy one of those two than buy an SUV.

    It’s funny that this argument is even a thing. About this time 10 years ago everyone was preaching how the era of the fullsize SUV is over, how they are as dead as the dinosaurs and nobody would ever buy one again. Fast forward 10 years…

  • avatar
    WallMeerkat

    Burn them all. Ugly van-like tanks.

  • avatar
    teddyc73

    I tried to read through some of the comments and all I wanted to do was puke at all the ‘gators,’slades, Navis, etc. Ugh. Can we stop with these stupid abbreviations.

    By the way…burn the Lexus. Just ghastly.

  • avatar
    road_pizza

    Buy the Navi, because good looks,

    Burn the Escalade and the Lexus from eye crimes against humanity.

  • avatar
    Hydromatic

    Buy? The LX570. It’s my money and I’m gonna spend it wisely. And spend it I will on a vehicle with excellent resale value and equally excellent build quality.

    Drive? The Navigator. I’d rather it have a V8, but I’m not gonna sneer at a twin-boosted V6, either. I’ll take mine with that baby blue and white interior combo….and a way to fold or hide that damned tablet.

    Burn? Escalade. I don’t care if it’s got the big 6.2-liter motor and the solid axle that apparently makes the traditionalists tent their pants. I just don’t want it.

  • avatar
    dal20402

    As an LX570 owner, I’ll tell you this depends on how long you want to keep the machine.

    For the three years most of the buyers will own these things: Buy the Navi. It oozes style, it’s actually roomy, and this variant of the 3.5 is an unstoppable force.

    For two decades: Buy the LX. The 200 series basically never break. When the most serious recurring issue is hairline cracks in the radiator around 100k miles, you know you’ve got some engineering. There is a reason why you can’t walk a block in my snooty neighborhood in Seattle without running into an outwardly beat-up 80 or 100 (which are often treated to spare-no-expense mechanical maintenance).

    Always burn the Slade. It’s a cynical creation with Impala-level interior materials, the ride of a Silverado, and zero third-row or cargo room.

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