Audi Planning Luxurious A8 to Rival Mercedes-Maybach, Resurrection of Horch Name: Report

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

Audi’s fourth-generation A8 sedan is the pinnacle of the brand’s opulence, so long as you’re willing to ignore every model that begins with the letter R and the forthcoming Q8. Starting at $83,800 before destination, the A8 isn’t cheap. But it does represent a relative bargain compared to the Mercedes-Benz S-Class, a model which has long been the poster child for automotive grandeur.

While the A8 is sumptuous affair, the S-Class pulls away the second Daimler tacks on the Maybach prefix and its corresponding price tag. Finding its competitive spirit, Audi is resurrecting the historic Horch name to rival Mercedes’ super-luxury flagship. Available within the next two to three years, the Horch A8 will feature additional creature comforts, palatial touches, and a much higher price tag than the car it’s based upon.

If you’re unfamiliar with the Horch name, don’t feel ashamed. The moniker hasn’t been attached to an automotive brand since 1932, and the man from which it stems, August Horch, has been dead since 1951. Horch, who began his automotive legacy as a production manager for Karl Benz in 1899, would ultimately set out on his own to set the framework for Audi.

A dispute with his former company, Horch & Cie. Motorwagenwerke AG, resulted in the formation of August Horch Automobilwerke GmbH. However, in 1910, the company was renamed Audi Automobilwerk to avoid any legal issues surrounding use of the name. Regardless, the Horch name was synonymous with extreme luxury prior to World War II — making it a fitting name for Audi to use.

According to Automotive News, the ultra-luxury variant will be limited to high-powered A8s only. While the model comes in a long-wheelbase version, Audi apparently isn’t interested in stretching the Horch. It’s an odd choice, considering Maybach focuses so much on rear passenger comfort. We’d be gobsmacked if Audi didn’t eventually provide at least a couple regional markets (China) with a long-wheelbase variant.

From Automotive News:

The special version will get equipment beyond the regular A8, including different wheels and likely a Horch logo on the flanks or C-pillar. The Horch trim level could be available on a twin-turbocharged W12 version of the A8, if such a model comes to market. The W12 version, while market-ready, is on hold.

Sources also noted that a V8-powered Audi would also be fit to wear the Horch badge, which would help keep costs down a bit. Pricing remains a mystery, however. The Mercedes-Maybach S560 4MATIC Sedan starts at $168,600, which is roughly $80,000 more than the base Mercedes-Benz S450.

Audi will likely try to undercut that premium by quite a bit, though nothing official has been said. Despite the A8’s heaping of standard kit, Audi will have to upsize its engine while adding bling and tech to reach Horch status. Expect an announcement from the automaker within the next year or two.

[Images: Audi]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Hreardon Hreardon on Sep 25, 2018

    The A3/Q3 models are based on the Volkswagen MQB architecture (latitudinally mounted engines). The A4 and up are based on the Audi developed MLB architecture for longitudinally mounted engines. There are rumors that the next generation A4 will move to MQB, and the next generation A6/A7/A8 will move to Porsche developed architectures. Considering the MLB "Evo"platform is in its infancy, we're a solid 7-8 years before that occurs, though I find it interesting that the A4 received such a minor facelift - if I were a betting man, I would guess that the B9 model is going to be fairly short lived compared to previous generations. Audi has done a very good job of carving out a solid brand in the last ten years. Benz has gone a bit avant-garde luxury, Audi is going more Iron Man. BMW, I fear, is losing a clear sense of self. I passed on the current generation A3/S3 when it was time to replace my '06 Sportback. Mainly because while handsome and capable, they were utterly sterile compared to their Golf GTI brother. I've yet to drive a new B9 A4, but from all accounts it is an excellent chassis - my problem is that Audi went hyper-conservative on the styling, reminding me of the B6 A4 (a car, that rumor has it, was so bland that Ferdinand Piech ordered a near complete dismissal of the entire Audi design team at the time). The new A7 and A6 are far more interesting, inside and out.

  • CincyDavid CincyDavid on Sep 26, 2018

    Maybe Silvercar by Audi will add these to their rental fleet if they don't sell. I'm intrigued by their business model and ever-expanding range of models available but I'm so ingrained with just using Alamo Rent A Car that I have never pulled the trigger and used their service.

  • Redapple2 Good luck to them. They used to make great cars. 510. 240Z, Sentra SE-R. Maxima. Frontier.
  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Off-road fluff on vehicles that should not be off road needs to die.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Saw this posted on social media; “Just bought a 2023 Tundra with the 14" screen. Let my son borrow it for the afternoon, he connected his phone to listen to his iTunes.The next day my insurance company raised my rates and added my son to my policy. The email said that a private company showed that my son drove the vehicle. He already had his own vehicle that he was insuring.My insurance company demanded he give all his insurance info and some private info for proof. He declined for privacy reasons and my insurance cancelled my policy.These new vehicles with their tech are on condition that we give up our privacy to enter their world. It's not worth it people.”
  • TheEndlessEnigma Poor planning here, dropping a Vinfast dealer in Pensacola FL is just not going to work. I love Pensacola and that part of the Gulf Coast, but that area is by no means an EV adoption demographic.
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