By on August 10, 2018

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Canada says it could rejoin the NAFTA discussion, just as the United States and Mexico approach an agreement on automobiles. The two nations engaged in bilateral negotiations a little less than a month ago, seemingly making positive headway on a trade deal.

With President-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador assuming office in December, it’s in the United States’ best interest to close a deal as soon as possible. It’s assumed the man, frequently referred to as “AMLO,” will make sweeping changes to the Mexican government. However, he also promises to join forces with several smaller parties from both the right and left to create a coalition aimed at rooting out corruption. The resulting level of uncertainty has many fearing difficult Mexican policy changes and trade negotiations in the future, effectively forcing a restart of NAFTA talks.

According to David MacNaughton, Canada’s ambassador to the U.S., the duo are close to finalizing a deal on automotive manufacturing. If so, the Northern nation is prepared to rejoin negotiations. 

“If they can resolve their differences on [automotive trade], then I think we can move ahead and have the three of us talk about some of the other issues that affect all of us,” MacNaughton said in an interview with Bloomberg on Thursday.

When asked if he felt positive about future NAFTA negotiations, the ambassador answered in the affirmative.

“I think so,” he said. “We’ve had a number of stops and starts to the negotiation — the most recent being sort of the end of April and early May when I think we came reasonably close to getting an agreement. But then the Mexican election was looming and we sort of agreed to wait until after that. I think the Mexicans and Americans have been talking principally about the auto rules of origin, and things like that where I think we’re pretty aligned with the Americans on the approach to it.”

Despite being in sync with the United States for the most part on automotive matters, Canada still opposes proposals for a sunset clause on the agreement — which would allow a country to quit the North American Free Trade Agreement after five years — and still wants an independent dispute-resolution process. Meanwhile, negotiators for the U.S. and Mexico are ironing out details surrounding regional content requirements for vehicles and a handful of other matters. A final proposal is expected to go public soon.

While the ticking lock element isn’t ideal and nothing has been officially agreed upon, this is probably the most promising update on NAFTA we’ve heard in months.

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36 Comments on “Three’s Company, Too? Canada Returning to NAFTA Dance As U.S. and Mexico Approach Auto Deal...”


  • avatar
    Superdessucke

    Wonder if he’ll take them socialist. If so, some of our cheap labor loving automakers, and others, may find themselves in quite the bind! In several respects.

    • 0 avatar
      TwoBelugas

      I don’t think there it’s a matter of if, but how far AMLO will steer Mexico toward the Sandinistas and Chavistas. The end result will be the same as the CenAm countries: more “refugees” being forced to move to El Norte since Mexico doesn’t have a Colombia to its south as a spanish speaking buffer absorbing its economic emigrants.

    • 0 avatar

      First “democratic socialist” not socialist, there is a big difference. Secondly I am pretty sure that Mexico already has a free universal healthcare and free college education. Then let me remind you that US also is moving in the same democratic socialism direction as Mexico – it is a matter of time when boomers finally die out (nobody cares about Xers, sorry) and millennials take over America and US becomes truly democratic socialist country. It that scenario China and Russia will remain the last remaining capitalist countries on the Earth.

      • 0 avatar
        pdog_phatpat

        I’m sure that’s how you HOPE it goes. Good luck with that.

      • 0 avatar
        Superdessucke

        @Insidelookingstoned – Hahaha! You gave me a good laugh today. I bet you live in a major city. There are millions of millennials who do not live in left leaning large urban areas. They’re on police and fire departments across the Nation and serving in our nation’s military. Get out of your little bubble.

        Now that being said, I definitely could see the big cities becoming socialist meccas because a lot of the liberal ones move there after college. So they can FUBAR those and provide an example of why “Democratic Socialism” is a bad idea – on display for everybody to see. Chicago is sprinting towards the finish line as we speak.

        • 0 avatar
          Maymar

          “They’re on police and fire departments across the Nation and serving in our nation’s military.”

          So, government employees then? Regardless of which side of the political spectrum they fall on, those are all groups that probably aren’t pressing too hard for smaller government.

          • 0 avatar

            Government never gets smaller. It always grows. The second law of thermodynamics. Big cities control everything – mass media, Government, army, police, science, culture, education, brainwashing the rest of country. And big cities are not nationalistic, they are globalists. They belong to the global elite that controls the lives, thoughts and even fate of all mankind.

  • avatar
    thornmark

    if the victims of socialism/communism do flee north and then register and vote GOP as the Cubans did in FL – Pelosi and Schumer will personally build the wall as the MSM/DNC will become 90% pro wall and declare it a national emergency to do so

    • 0 avatar
      I_like_stuff

      Just because socialism fails 100% of the time is no reason to be pessimistic.

      • 0 avatar
        TwoBelugas

        hey now, China is the powerhouse it is today thanks to its absolute adherence to socialist marxist leninist maoist thoughts.

      • 0 avatar

        Let me respectfully disagree – EU still going strong. And China is a success story.

        • 0 avatar
          Superdessucke

          EU is not socialist. And China is a big success, if you consider imprisoning supporters of human rights, forced prison labor, mass media censorship, and forced “conversion” of homosexuals to be a big success. Go tell your professor who brainwashed you with that that he/she is an idiot.

          https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/china-and-tibet

      • 0 avatar
        Whatnext

        Right because Scandinavia is such a hellhole.

        • 0 avatar
          Superdessucke

          Those are not socialist either. The Lefties call those nice countries socialist to try to support their argument but they’re anything but. Your best current example is Venezuela. And, I fear, Mexico soon.

          Democratic socialism would fail miserably here. There will be a civil war before that ever happened so keep on dreaming.

          • 0 avatar
            Superdessucke

            And that Civil War will be over in like 10 minutes because all of the people who actually work for a living + the police fire, and military are not Bernie supporters, needless to say. It will be like beating up your little brother.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @ Superdessucke: You obviously do not understand just what democratic socialism is. The Scandinavian countries all practice it. So do most of the other countries in Northern Europe.

            Then there is a ‘mixed economy’ which Australia, Canada and N.Z. practiced and so to some degree Japan.

            All relatively successful economically, relatively peaceful and fully democratic, with lower murder rates, higher life expectancy, lower infant mortality rates, and in most instance lower poverty rates than the USA.

            Economically the large cities (megacities) are now the driving force behind the economy of most nations, including the USA. And there population is growing much larger than that of the urban population. As the ‘Boomer’ die out, the demographic shift will be pronounced as will societal mores. Luckily for the ‘right wing’ many if not most Catholic (read Hispanic) and Muslim immigrants align with ‘conservative’ ‘anti-choice’, ‘pro-family’ religious ideals and therefore vote for the same candidates as southern Baptists and Evangelists. Making for very strange ‘bedfellows’.

            As for the ‘upcoming’ civil war you are advocating. Allowing members of the military and the police to ‘overthrow’ the will of the majority. Is that not the exact definition of a ‘military coup’ and the end of democracy. Is that really what you are advocating?

          • 0 avatar
            dont.fit.in.cars

            @Arthur Dailey

            Very interesting read on Hispanics and Muslims on conservatives values making strange bed fellows. Agree with Hispanics but squaring sharia with Muslim culture doesn’t blend with separation of church and state. America would be lucky if they could.

          • 0 avatar

            Europeans are not democratic socialists – they are social democrats – there is a big difference. And they are heavily taxed. They unlike America are nation states with uniform culture and not as deeply divided as Americans. Americans do not have respect even to own “national” anthem or flag.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @Inside, A great many European nations have more than one culture. The Scots, Welsh and English in the UK. Flemish and Walloons in Belgium. Prussians and Bavarians in Germany. German, French and Italian speakers in Switzerland. Just some examples.

            And in return for their taxes they have among other things, higher standards of education and healthcare.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @Dontfit: There are a great many North American Christians who also do not believe in the separation of church and state.

          • 0 avatar
            dont.fit.in.cars

            @Dailey

            As I always remark to Christians. Careful what you wish for, applies to Muslims as well. Do you want Sharia to be used as a blunt instrument against to your faith? When they learn I lived in the Middle East for two years they finally understand the reason for separation.

  • avatar
    I_like_stuff

    “he also promises to join forces with several smaller parties from both the right and left to create a coalition aimed at rooting out corruption”

    Canada has a better chance of rooting out cold weather in Edmonton than Mexico does of rooting out corruption.

  • avatar
    dont.fit.in.cars

    Canada is own by environmentalists and social justice warriors who gutted their manufacturing base. Canada exploits NAFTA’s loophole allowing Chinese parts to route through Canada and Mexico, in effect Cucks are part assemblers, not manufactures of origin.

    Cucks just got their asses handed to them interfere with Saudi justice losing billions in sales.

    Mexico business with the US is 80 billion in Chinese parts and although their headed to socialism, they’re not stupid.

  • avatar
    dusterdude

    Thank goodness we have a political expert (who shall remain nameless) commenting. We don’t know what we would do without your expert analysis.

  • avatar
    jimmyy

    Most real Americans are hoping NAFTA goes in the trash heap.

  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    The original Canada-US Free Trade Agreement was initiated by the USA and ‘foisted’ on Canada by Mulroney’s friendship with Reagan.

    The net result was as predicted a large number of Canadian companies being bought up by multi-nationals, while some manufacturing moved south.

    Once Mexico was brought in to form NAFTA, again being introduced by the USA and their politicians who were bought/owned by multinational organizations and banks, an increased, if not dangerous amount of manufacturing transferred to Mexico. Mexico being a ‘failed’ state with no rule of law, but with the extremely low labour rates that global corporations lust after. Including Mexico did not open up a new market to goods from Canada and the USA, instead it just allowed corporations to move to a low wage environment. And with reduced restraints, many of those companies moved their ‘head office’ to low tax nations/tax havens so that they pay ever decreasing amounts of tax in the nations where their goods are actually sold.

    Trickle down economics was a crime committed on the populations of Canada and the USA, by corrupt or obtuse politicians.

    • 0 avatar
      dont.fit.in.cars

      Combine low labor of Mexico with auto parts built by China (low labor with low manufacturing cost) routed to Mexico circumvents NAFTA origin requirements.

      BTW NAFTA is dead.

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/10/nafta-update-president-trump-notes-progress-with-mexico-on-bilateral-trade-preparing-different-bilat-terms-for-canada/

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