QOTD: Which of These Automotive Pariahs Secretly Turns Your Crank?

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

This Question of the Day has its origin in a song, one which exists as something of a guilty pleasure. Actually, screw that, I’m a modern man (not postmodern, mind you) — I can admit it was Tiny Dancer by Elton John, which just happened to pop up on a Spotify playlist 15 minutes before I sat down to write this.

We often associate songs with a certain time and place in our lives, and that particular song — one of two by that artist I’ll admit to liking (the other being an apt description of a certain North Korean dictator) — immediately brought to mind a dark red, first-generation Chevrolet Corvair. A number of years back, nearing the end of a long road trip to Georgia and back, I found myself driving under leaden March skies in chilly Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, surely the sexiest city on the lower Susquehanna. Tiny Dancer came on the local station, and as I thought about life and mistakes, a burgundy-colored car came into view.

Resting just off a parking lot, it was, a “For Sale” sign stuck hopefully in its windshield. You never saw a more honest-looking 1964 Chevrolet Corvair Monza.

Corvair. The nameplate that brought us Ralph Nader’s Unsafe At Any Speed and the subsequent revolution in consumer advocacy and vehicle safety.

The pristine Monza example for sale in Harrisburg might not be as fearful a vehicle as you’d expect. In 1964, General Motors added transverse leaf springs and softer coil springs to the infamous swing arm rear suspension, plus a front anti-roll bar, in the hopes of taming the model’s alarming rollover tendencies. For the model’s 1965 redesign, GM replaced the swing axle setup with a conventional independent rear suspension. No inside wheel tuck-under, no rollovers, no body count. Just a safe, if unconventional, air-cooled and rear-engined model with a horrible reputation.

From 1965 onwards, sales shrunk exponentially until the model’s demise in 1969. Still, the Corvair had its fans, and as a relic of an experimental era in the automotive industry it remains a quirky collector item.

This got me thinking about other automotive pariahs. The Chevrolet Vega, with its attractive design, appealing Cosworth variant, and well publicized teething troubles, looms large. Imagine finding one without the horrific early corrosion problems and sleeveless, aluminum-silicon time bomb of an engine. A nice, later example that wouldn’t overheat if you lit a match nearby.

The same goes for the Ford Pinto, what with its unfortunate gas tank placement. Actually, maybe the Pinto better fulfills the description of a time bomb.

Gas tank ruptures aside, the compact Pinto came in a cute two-door wagon variant (which didn’t suffer the fuel tank maladies of its hatchback sibling), and even offered a German-built V6 engine for those sick of winding up the company’s tepid four-cylinders. And the far-out Cruising Wagon? A National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-mandated recall eventually led to the reinforcing of the Pinto’s fuel tank, meaning increased crash performance and added peace of mind.

There’s no shortage of vehicles with bad reputations for unreliability or remarkable ugliness, but these three models, spanning models years 1960 to 1980, represent the pinnacle of automotive notoriety. Still, that doesn’t mean there aren’t genuine reasons for wanting one. For today’s question, we’re asking which of these three vehicles — any year, any variant — you’d like to have in your garage.

Try to refrain from straying outside the terrible trio listed here. What’s it going to be? Corvair, Vega, or Pinto?

[Image: Wikimedia Commons ( CC BY-SA 2.0)]

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  • Pig_Iron Pig_Iron on Oct 11, 2017

    Learned to drive in a first year Bobcat wagon. It was awesome. Had a Vega - all the bad things they say are true. Our family had a a Corvair we got as a trade. It was fun, but it was gone before i got my licence. Out of the three, I'd take the Pinto wagon with the V6 and auto for every day use, and since it could efficiently tow a pup utility trailer. But for weekend fun I'd take a 1966 Corsa turbo. ;-) The greatest tragedy with the Vega was not putting in the 153 Chev four.

  • Islander800 Islander800 on Oct 12, 2017

    No doubt, it's Corvair. The second gen Corvair is the closest any American brand came to an American Porsche. The only thing missing was rack and pinion steering, disc brakes (though the Chevelle drums did great) and radial tires. GM had an experimental overhead-cam version of the pancake six engine in development. Ralph Nader, and the Mustang, put an end to that. Ironic, in that the Mustang was created in response to demand for sporty cars, thanks to the success of...Corvair Monza). Anyone who has thrown a 2nd gen Corvair into perfectly-controlled power slides through twisties knows what I mean. Feeling the growl of a 140 four-carb through free-flow dual exhausts, hood jumping as the secondaries kick in, is "unique".

  • W Conrad I'm not afraid of them, but they aren't needed for everyone or everywhere. Long haul and highway driving sure, but in the city, nope.
  • Jalop1991 In a manner similar to PHEV being the correct answer, I declare RPVs to be the correct answer here.We're doing it with certain aircraft; why not with cars on the ground, using hardware and tools like Telsa's "FSD" or GM's "SuperCruise" as the base?Take the local Uber driver out of the car, and put him in a professional centralized environment from where he drives me around. The system and the individual car can have awareness as well as gates, but he's responsible for the driving.Put the tech into my car, and let me buy it as needed. I need someone else to drive me home; hit the button and voila, I've hired a driver for the moment. I don't want to drive 11 hours to my vacation spot; hire the remote pilot for that. When I get there, I have my car and he's still at his normal location, piloting cars for other people.The system would allow for driver rest period, like what's required for truckers, so I might end up with multiple people driving me to the coast. I don't care. And they don't have to be physically with me, therefore they can be way cheaper.Charge taxi-type per-mile rates. For long drives, offer per-trip rates. Offer subscriptions, including miles/hours. Whatever.(And for grins, dress the remote pilots all as Johnnie.)Start this out with big rigs. Take the trucker away from the long haul driving, and let him be there for emergencies and the short haul parts of the trip.And in a manner similar to PHEVs being discredited, I fully expect to be razzed for this brilliant idea (not unlike how Alan Kay wasn't recognized until many many years later for his Dynabook vision).
  • B-BodyBuick84 Not afraid of AV's as I highly doubt they will ever be %100 viable for our roads. Stop-and-go downtown city or rush hour highway traffic? I can see that, but otherwise there's simply too many variables. Bad weather conditions, faded road lines or markings, reflective surfaces with glare, etc. There's also the issue of cultural norms. About a decade ago there was actually an online test called 'The Morality Machine' one could do online where you were in control of an AV and choose what action to take when a crash was inevitable. I think something like 2.5 million people across the world participated? For example, do you hit and most likely kill the elderly couple strolling across the crosswalk or crash the vehicle into a cement barrier and almost certainly cause the death of the vehicle occupants? What if it's a parent and child? In N. America 98% of people choose to hit the elderly couple and save themselves while in Asia, the exact opposite happened where 98% choose to hit the parent and child. Why? Cultural differences. Asia puts a lot of emphasis on respecting their elderly while N. America has a culture of 'save/ protect the children'. Are these AV's going to respect that culture? Is a VW Jetta or Buick Envision AV going to have different programming depending on whether it's sold in Canada or Taiwan? how's that going to effect legislation and legal battles when a crash inevitibly does happen? These are the true barriers to mass AV adoption, and in the 10 years since that test came out, there has been zero answers or progress on this matter. So no, I'm not afraid of AV's simply because with the exception of a few specific situations, most avenues are going to prove to be a dead-end for automakers.
  • Mike Bradley Autonomous cars were developed in Silicon Valley. For new products there, the standard business plan is to put a barely-functioning product on the market right away and wait for the early-adopter customers to find the flaws. That's exactly what's happened. Detroit's plan is pretty much the opposite, but Detroit isn't developing this product. That's why dealers, for instance, haven't been trained in the cars.
  • Dartman https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-fighter-jets-air-force-6a1100c96a73ca9b7f41cbd6a2753fdaAutonomous/Ai is here now. The question is implementation and acceptance.
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