A War Against Self-Driving Cars Just Kicked Off in New York, But It Could Turn Into Grenada

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

A great philosopher once said that you can’t start a fire without a spark, followed by something about rhythmic movements in unlit spaces.

Well, if there’s a war brewing against autonomous technology and self-driving vehicles, the flashpoint might have occurred in New York — City and State — last week. A large trade group and labor union joined forces in denouncing the driverless scourge headed their way, with one of the groups angling for a 50-year-ban on the automotive heathens.

The Upstate Transportation Association, which represents private passenger transportation companies in the state, sees self-driving vehicles as an existential threat to its members’ livelihoods. It wants protection — ideally, five decades’ worth.

Just last week, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo gave the green light to ride-sharing services operating outside of New York City. Those services, be it Lyft or Uber, will be regulated by the state, rather than local governments. While both the UTA and Independent Drivers Guild, which represents for-hire drivers in NYC, are okay with ride-sharing, both are concerned about what that could bring.

Large ride-sharing companies just happen to be strong proponents of autonomous driving technology, and self-driving pilot projects are already springing up in cities like Pittsburgh and San Francisco. For some opponents, the companies are a Trojan Horse hiding hordes of robotic job killers. This, despite Uber promising the creation of 13,000 jobs in upstate New York.

“It doesn’t do anything for the local economy to have driverless cars,” UTA president John Tomassi told CNN. “I’m sure there’s a little bit of job creation, but nothing that will match the number of jobs lost.”

Cuomo hasn’t voiced a stance on self-driving vehicles, but the existing legislation “protecting” human-guided vehicles is full of holes. The IDG wants New York City to enforce state laws requiring the operator of a vehicle to keep one hand on the steering wheel. Still, because the law was crafted before autonomous technology, it might only apply to vehicles without self-driving capabilities.

The brewing war could fizzle overnight in the face of legal challenges from automakers and ride-sharing companies.

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  • Walleyeman57 Walleyeman57 on Jan 16, 2017

    Ah yes New York. Still denying not only the future but the past too. Uber,Lyft and the others can sway these pea brains by selling the thought that these fully automated vehicles will reduce the dreaded Co2. That and a few fat campaign checks will have the driver-less cars and trucks on the road before they are even ready. Right now it is the protected industries that are paying to play. We all know that those who write the biggest checks get what they want.

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    • Psarhjinian Psarhjinian on Jan 16, 2017

      @PeriSoft Yes, exactly. Rather like WALL-E

  • Ricky Spanish Ricky Spanish on Jan 17, 2017

    Somebody has to: Write the code for the robots Maintain the robots Maintain the vehicles Manufacture spares for the vehicles Maintain the satellites Manage payment and accounts Advertise these services Provide legal and tax advice to the companies Jobs.

  • MaintenanceCosts "GLX" with the 2.slow? I'm confused. I thought that during the Mk3 and Mk4 era "GLX" meant the car had a VR6.
  • Dr.Nick What about Infiniti? Some of those cars might be interesting, whereas not much at Nissan interest me other than the Z which is probably big bucks.
  • Dave Holzman My '08 Civic (stick, 159k on the clock) is my favorite car that I've ever owned. If I had to choose between the current Civic and Corolla, I'd test drive 'em (with stick), and see how they felt. But I'd be approaching this choice partial to the Civic. I would not want any sort of automatic transmission, or the turbo engine.
  • Merc190 I would say Civic Si all the way if it still revved to 8300 rpm with no turbo. But nowadays I would pick the Corolla because I think they have a more clear idea on their respective models identity and mission. I also believe Toyota has a higher standard for quality.
  • Dave Holzman I think we're mixing up a few things here. I won't swear to it, but I'd be damned surprised if they were putting fire retardant in the seats of any cars from the '50s, or even the '60s. I can't quite conjure up the new car smell of the '57 Chevy my parents bought on October 17th of that year... but I could do so--vividly--until the last five years or so. I loved that scent, and when I smelled it, I could see the snow on Hollis Street in Cambridge Mass, as one or the other parent got ready to drive me to nursery school, and I could remember staring up at the sky on Christmas Eve, 1957, wondering if I might see Santa Claus flying overhead in his sleigh. No, I don't think the fire retardant on the foam in the seats of 21st (and maybe late 20th) century cars has anything to do with new car smell. (That doesn't mean new car small lacked toxicity--it probably had some.)
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