Piston Slap: Cooling to the MAXX?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta
Scott writes:

Hello –

Saw a Dex-cool question you posted previously, and figured I would try my own. We have a ’06 Malibu Maxx SS. Basically the car runs hot, but not all the time. I have been religious about flushing the cooling system and using only the correct fluids.

It has 91k, and I’ve read online that they tend to run a little above avg temp. Like your CTS questioner, this car was clearly driven hard before we bought it, but nothing horrible. It doesn’t throw any codes and doesn’t get into the red, but its definitely high according the gauge. On the highway it tends to sit right in the middle. If it sits in traffic it will rise a little, if I drive it hard it will shoot up but eventually come back down.

The water pump was recently replaced, but otherwise we have had no real problems with the car (aside from the usual crappy GM build quality, ISS, and lots of brake pads). I just ordered a new t-stat, figuring that was a cheap fix to try.

The car is paid off and I would like to keep it for a while, but I am worried putting my wife and daughter in this thing in the heat of summer, or going on a road trip, etc.

Sajeev answers:

So this Malibu was driven hard before you got it, but you’ve been good about respecting The Dex-Cool Monster…not letting the system get contaminated. This means, depending on when you bought it, the previous owner coulda mixed fluids. And mildly gunked up the system.

See how being an Internet Automotive Mechanical Detective works?

More to the point,“if I drive it hard it will shoot up but eventually come back down” points to a partially clogged radiator. Partially clogged because of mild gunk accumulation.

When we’re talkin’ about a two-owner vehicle running Dex-Cool…well, I’m just being my typical snarky, untrustworthy self. No detective work there. Radiators do go bad over time, failing more epically when sporting partially plastic construction too. The water pump? Not super-likely, unless the vehicle has plastic impellers (cough, VAG products) and they are crumbling to bits. The electric cooling fans? Probably not: they are merely less effective when pushing/pulling on a cloggy radiator…so the recovery time from hard driving is longer.

You can flush the radiator, or have a local shop do it for you. Or for added piece of mind: eliminate a known wear item on aging vehicles by spending all of $100-150 on a new one from an on-line parts vendor. I’d just order a new one and be done with it.

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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  • 95_SC 95_SC on Apr 12, 2013

    Was it doing this prior to the water pump replacement? If not then I'd say it is likely air but if so then I'd go with the radiator unless someone else had the cooling system open.

  • Amca Amca on Apr 19, 2013

    I was terribly disappointed when the Maxx failed. I liked the size, the package, the clever and fiercely practical moving back seat. Why do Americans demand SUVs? Is it the great handling that the high center of gravity gives them? Is it the superior fuel efficiency of a tall, high frontal area vehicle?

  • El scotto They should be supping with a very, very long spoon.
  • El scotto [list=1][*]Please make an EV that's not butt-ugly. Not Jaguar gorgeous but Buick handsome will do.[/*][*] For all the golf cart dudes: A Tesla S in Plaid mode will be the fastest ride you'll ever take.[/*][*]We have actual EV owners posting on here. Just calmly stated facts and real world experience. This always seems to bring out those who would argue math.[/*][/list=1]For some people an EV will never do, too far out in the country, taking trips where an EV will need recharged, etc. If you own a home and can charge overnight an EV makes perfect sense. You're refueling while you're sleeping.My condo association is allowing owners to install chargers. You have to pay all of the owners of the parking spaces the new electric service will cross. Suggested fee is 100$ and the one getting a charger pays all the legal and filing fees. I held out for a bottle of 30 year old single malt.Perhaps high end apartments will feature reserved parking spaces with chargers in the future. Until then non home owners are relying on public charge and one of my neighbors is in IT and he charges at work. It's call a perk.I don't see company owned delivery vehicles that are EV's. The USPS and the smiley boxes should be the 1st to do this. Nor are any of our mega car dealerships doing this and but of course advertising this fact.I think a great many of the EV haters haven't came to the self-actualization that no one really cares what you drive. I can respect and appreciate what you drive but if I was pushed to answer, no I really don't care what you drive. Before everyone goes into umbrage over my last sentence, I still like cars. Especially yours.I have heated tiles in my bathroom and my kitchen. The two places you're most likely to be barefoot. An EV may fall into to the one less thing to mess with for many people.Macallan for those who were wondering.
  • EBFlex The way things look in the next 5-10 years no. There are no breakthroughs in battery technology coming, the charging infrastructure is essentially nonexistent, and the price of entry is still way too high.As soon as an EV can meet the bar set by ICE in range, refueling times, and price it will take off.
  • Jalop1991 Way to bury the lead. "Toyota to offer two EVs in the states"!
  • Jalop1991 I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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