China Row Could Be Worse Than Tsunami, Effects Could Last More Than A Year

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt

In September, formerly red-hot sales of Japanese cars in China began to crater after cars were turned over and dealerships torched as fallout of a diplomatic row between Japan and China. Sales were down by about a half in October, and a little less than a third in November. At TTAC, we were skeptical that sales will be back to their old glory in a few months. A high ranking Toyota executive said for the first time that it will take long to recover.

“We have no choice but to believe it is going to be hard to regain the (pre-September) sales pace,” Hiroji Onishi, senior manager in charge of Toyota’s Chinese operations was quoted by Kyodo. “Deducing from past incidents, it would likely take at least one year, and we are making all sorts of adjustments to our plans.”

Onishi gave the grim assessment in a Nov. 26 meeting with union leaders. Toyota hoped to sell a million cars this year in China, the number will probably be closer to 800,000.

This report comes on top of bad news that Toyota expects Japan vehicle sales to fall by a fifth next year, Reuters reports citing an unconfirmed article in Mid-Japan Economist, a Japanese newspaper with good contacts to Toyota in Aichi, The paper says that Toyota decided to set its 2013 domestic sales target for Toyota-brand cars at 1.36 million vehicles, down from its 1.67 million target for this year, in part due to the end of government tax incentives. A Toyota spokesman said no 2013 domestic sales targets have been set.

In 2011, Japanese brands sold a combined total of 2,807,400 passenger cars in China, ahead of German brands with 2,384,700 units, data released by the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) show.

According to Toyota, its production lost due to the tsunami amounted to 150,000 units. The company already took 200,000 units out of its China plans that stretch only as far as March 2013. The island row could affect Japan’s carmakers more than the tsunami.

Sales in China six months down the road will remain below normal levels as a result of the recent territorial dispute, a slight majority of Japanese manufacturers said in a survey by the Japan Bank for International Cooperation, says The Nikkei [sub].


Bertel Schmitt
Bertel Schmitt

Bertel Schmitt comes back to journalism after taking a 35 year break in advertising and marketing. He ran and owned advertising agencies in Duesseldorf, Germany, and New York City. Volkswagen A.G. was Bertel's most important corporate account. Schmitt's advertising and marketing career touched many corners of the industry with a special focus on automotive products and services. Since 2004, he lives in Japan and China with his wife <a href="http://www.tomokoandbertel.com"> Tomoko </a>. Bertel Schmitt is a founding board member of the <a href="http://www.offshoresuperseries.com"> Offshore Super Series </a>, an American offshore powerboat racing organization. He is co-owner of the racing team Typhoon.

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  • Darkhorse Darkhorse on Dec 07, 2012

    I believe most of the foreign companies that built manufacturing plants in the PRC will live to regret it. This is a dictatorship with no respect for the rule of law. I fell for the booming economy and the the 1.5 billion consumers in the 1990s. After numerous cases of IP theft, I wish I'd never sold anything in China.

    • Danio3834 Danio3834 on Dec 07, 2012

      I'm sure many of them already do, what with the rabid intellectual theft and all.

  • Billfrombuckhead Billfrombuckhead on Dec 07, 2012

    Japan should have apologized for their war crimes when it meant something, now that they are weaker than China, no apology will be adequate.

  • Alan Years ago Jack Baruth held a "competition" for a piece from the B&B on the oddest pickup story (or something like that). I think 5 people were awarded the prizes.I never received mine, something about being in Australia. If TTAC is global how do you offer prizes to those overseas or are we omitted on the sly from competing?In the end I lost significant respect for Baruth.
  • Alan My view is there are good vehicles from most manufacturers that are worth looking at second hand.I can tell you I don't recommend anything from the Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat/etc gene pool. Toyotas are overly expensive second hand for what they offer, but they seem to be reliable enough.I have a friend who swears by secondhand Subarus and so far he seems to not have had too many issue.As Lou stated many utes, pickups and real SUVs (4x4) seem quite good.
  • 28-Cars-Later So is there some kind of undiagnosed disease where every rando thinks their POS is actually valuable?83K miles Ok.new valve cover gasket.Eh, it happens with age. spark plugsOkay, we probably had to be kewl and put in aftermarket iridium plugs, because EVO.new catalytic converterUh, yeah that's bad at 80Kish. Auto tranny failing. From the ad: the SST fails in one of the following ways:Clutch slip has turned into; multiple codes being thrown, shifting a gear or 2 in manual mode (2-3 or 2-4), and limp mode.Codes include: P2733 P2809 P183D P1871Ok that's really bad. So between this and the cat it suggests to me someone jacked up the car real good hooning it, because EVO, and since its not a Toyota it doesn't respond well to hard abuse over time.$20,000, what? Pesos? Zimbabwe Dollars?Try $2,000 USD pal. You're fracked dude, park it in da hood and leave the keys in it.BONUS: Comment in the ad: GLWS but I highly doubt you get any action on this car what so ever at that price with the SST on its way out. That trans can be $10k + to repair.
  • 28-Cars-Later Actually Honda seems to have a brilliant mid to long term strategy which I can sum up in one word: tariffs.-BEV sales wane in the US, however they will sell in Europe (and sales will probably increase in Canada depending on how their government proceeds). -The EU Politburo and Canada concluded a trade treaty in 2017, and as of 2024 99% of all tariffs have been eliminated.-Trump in 2018 threatened a 25% tariff on European imported cars in the US and such rhetoric would likely come again should there be an actual election. -By building in Canada, product can still be sold in the US tariff free though USMCA/NAFTA II but it should allow Honda tariff free access to European markets.-However if the product were built in Marysville it could end up subject to tit-for-tat tariff depending on which junta is running the US in 2025. -Profitability on BEV has already been a variable to put it mildly, but to take on a 25% tariff to all of your product effectively shuts you out of that market.
  • Lou_BC Actuality a very reasonable question.
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