By on January 16, 2012

If you thought high gas prices and a questionable economy meant the era of big SUVs was over, you’d be wrong; 2011 saw large SUV sales in the US grow 3.7% with a 7.4% growth in the luxury SUV segment. If you are one of those people with six-figure salaries and snow-filled school runs, the Cadillac Escalade is probably on your short list. But what about the person who isn’t ready to look “gangsta” while dropping Jimmy Jr. off at softball practice? Infiniti might just have the answer: the all-new, all-enormous QX56. Michael Karesh snagged a QX56 from a dealer back in March 2011, and in December Infiniti tossed me the keys to a 7-seat QX to see what the behemoth is like to live with for a week.

The luxury SUV formula is simple (and almost universally applied); take a mass-market SUV, add bling, softer leather, and wood trim (real or fake, take your pick). The Cadillac Escalade is the best known example. The Caddy borrows so heavily from the Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon that it’s hard to tell them apart unless you’re looking at them head-on.  Toyota/Lexus uses the same formula to make the LX570 out of the Toyota Land Cruiser.  If this doesn’t appeal to you, Nissan/Infiniti may have been listening. While Infiniti’s last generation QX was a tarted up Nissan Armada, this time around the QX is a re-badged Nissan Patrol. Same story different names you say? Not quite, the Patrol has never been sold in America, and in all likelihood never will be. You see, the Patrol is not some budget Nissan, it’s Nissan’s flagship SUV in markets where Infiniti doesn’t exist. This sounds strange to the average American buyer, however it is perfectly normal (in many markets) for a single brand to compete in the budget-compact market and the full-size luxury niche at the same time.

Outside, the QX looks big. Really big. Infiniti attempted to put the QX on a visual diet by adding the Infiniti signature grille and “bubbly” hood treatment. The nip/tuck works to some extent and made me believe the QX56 is smaller than the competition, until I parked between an Escalade and GL550. At over 208-inches long and 80-inches wide, the QX56 is 6-inches longer and more than an inch wider than the Escalade (if want an SUV that rivals river-barges, Cadillac’s Escalade ESV is 229-inchs long). The QX is so large that while on the freeway I came too close to a pair of Smart Fortwos and accidentally pulled them into orbit. While I find the quarter-panel “portholes” an awkward styling job, the rest of the slab-sided QX is more attractive in my mind than the sedate LX570, the angular GL or the Escalade.

The super-size theme continues inside with wide, flat-bottomed front seats, a large center console between the front and second row seats (in the 7-seat QX) and large expanses of real wood trim. Anyone who owns or has driven a late model year Infiniti will feel immediately at home inside the QX as Infinit’s interior design department still chants the “same sausage, different sizes” mantra, and I’m OK with that. Parts quality inside the QX is extremely high with all the major touch points lacking the plastic feel the Cadillac is burdened with. Still, budgets are a way of life and back in 2010 when I reviewed the redesigned M56, I loved the “knurled” rings around the speedo and tach, the QX borrows the style but not the 3-D plastic bits opting instead for a painted-on faux knurl. Other than the painted gauge bling, the QX’s cabin is  easily on par with Mercedes’ GL and Lexus’s LX.

Under the QX’s bulbous hood beats but one engine option: the lightly re-worked 5.6-liter direct-injection V8 VK56VD. While the V8 is shared with the M56 sedan, exhaust differences reduce the output by 20HP and 4lb-ft to 400HP at 5,850RPM and 413lb-ft at 4,000RPM. Despite the downgrade in twist, the new engine is more powerful than all of the competition except the Escalade’s 403-horsepower, 417lb-ft 6.2-liter pushrod V8. Despite being down on displacement versus the Caddy, Infiniti’s direct-injection and variable valve timing tech help the QX’s V8 not only deliver its peak torque earlier than the Caddy’s 6.2L V8, but it doesn’t run out of breath as easily either.

As a result of the advantageous torque curve, high horsepower and a well matched 7-speed transmission, the QX56 recorded a faster 0-60 time than the 2011 Infiniti G37 convertible we tested recently. The QX boasts an 8,500lb towing capacity (slightly higher than Escalde), and in a back-to-back test with a friend’s 2011 Caddy and the same trailer, the QX felt far more composed going up steep grades with a 5,000lb trailer. The fast acceleration times and improved towing feel are largely due to the 7-speed automatic which spent less time hunting than GM’s 6-speed. Overall, the QX transmission’s shifts are fast and crisp like other Infiniti products (with rev-matched down-shifts), however the unit is programmed to be up-shift happy for fuel economy reasons. Fear not piston heads; romping the go peal will still trump the EPA. All 400 ponies are routed to the tarmac via the rear wheels or an optional all-time four-wheel-drive system with a two-speed transfer case. Sadly the terrain selection dial (ala Land Rover) from the Nissan Patrol didn’t make it into the QX.

Out on the road, the QX’s 121-inch wheelbase (5-inches longer than Escalade), independent rear suspension and standard 60-series rubber help the QX deliver a fairly compliant ride. Upgrading to the 22-inch wheel package drops the aspect ratio on the tires to 50 but improves the look of the vehicle whiel taking a slight toll on harshness over rough pavement. If handling is a priority for you, look beyond the 22-inch low profile tires and shop the   300lb lighter Mercedes-Benz GL550 or a crossover. Compared to the LX570, the QX delivers better grip than the Lexus, but slots firmly between the base Escalade and the Escalade with GM’s Magnetic Ride Control. Does any of this matter? I say no. Let’s face it – as long as a large SUV handles as well as a 1980s minivan it has succeeded in my book.

While Green Peace will never give a thumbs-up to any full-size SUV, the 5,850lb QX56 manages to win the award for the most fuel efficient “full-size non-hybrid SUV,” delivering 14 city MPG and 20 highway MPG. (The Escalde and GL450 both scrape the bottom at 13 MPG city/18 MPG highway.) During our 640-mile week with the QX56, we averaged a respectable 15.2MPGs in mixed driving and a daily commute over a 2,200ft mountain pass and our best highway mileage of 22MPG was achieved during a 48-mile run on level highway.


Lately Infiniti has been taking nanny state to the next level with “prevention systems” rather than just “warning systems.” As much as I may dislike systems that take control at any time (as opposed to systems that take control when you are inattentive), when you are driving a living room sized vehicle aroundm it’s probably a good idea for the nannies to kick in early. Sure, the Lexus LX has a pre-collision system and the Mercedes GL can be had with lane departure warning, but the QX takes electronic prevention to a whole new level. “Lane Departure Prevention” not only tells you when you cross the line without signalling, it will actually use the brakes to “steer” you back in your lane. Similarly, “Blind Spot Avoidance” will act (more drastically) to keep you from side-swiping that motorcycle or Smart car in your blind spot. While the Lane Departure system’s intervention is a gentle tug, the Blind Spot system is more of a shove back in your lane. I can hear HAL now: I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

Most luxury brands offer radar cruise control as an option, but Infinit’s packs a socialist twist: an accelerator pedal that fights back. The radar cruise control with “Intelligent Brake Assist” will brake for you [even to a complete stop] in many situations. The easiest way to describe the behavior is this: you are following a car on a surface street, the car begins to slow for a red light, if the QX56 sees that you are closing on the car in front of you it will begin pushing the accelerator pedal up at you to indicate your need to act, if you lift off the accelerator and you are close enough to the car in front, the QX will automatically apply the brakes taking you all the way to a complete stop. Once stopped the car will hold the brakes for a few seconds, then beep indicating your need to touch the brake pedal and then release it’s death grip on your stoppers. I will leave the debate over this making QX drivers depend too much on technology to our readers.

The QX56 shares its 8-inch navigation/infotainment system with the rest of the Infiniti lineup and as such provides excellent Bluetooth and iPod/iPhone integration. While the software has not been significantly improved since the former QX, it is fairly competitive with the Lexus and Cadillac systems. With an intuitive interface that combines physical buttons on the dash and steering wheel as well as a touch screen, navigating through your music device or the nav system is easy and can be done primarily via the steering wheel. While the Infiniti system allows voice control of the navigation system and Bluetooth phone dialing, it unfortunately still lacks voice command of your Apple music device ala Ford’s SYNC or Kia’s UVO. The large screen is also used by Infiniti’s “Around Monitor” system which takes images from four different cameras around the car and digitally manipulates the image to give you a bird’s eye view of your surroundings. While this feature is nifty in a mid-size luxury sedan, it’s a matter of wheel-life-or-death on large SUVs and thankfully it is standard on all QX models.

So how much does one of these babies set you back? Logically, full-size SUVs have full-size price tags and the QX56 is no exception. The 2012 Infiniti QX56 starts at $58,700 for the rear wheel drive QX and $61,800 for the four-wheel drive model. Aside from the all-wheel motivation, the $3,100 also buys the driver a windshield de-icer and a 260lb increase in curb weight. Strangely enough the 4WD system does not come standard with a reduction in fuel economy with 2WD and 4WD models scoring the same in the EPA tests (your mileage may vary of course). Our tester was a fully-loaded AWD model retailing for $75,140. Our options list included: the $2,950 “Theater Package” with dual 7-inch headrest monitors for the second row, wireless headphones, second row power-folding heated seats and a built-in 120V AC inverter; the $4,100 “Deluxe Touring Package” with heated and cooled front seats, semi-aniline leather, dynamic body roll control, climate control with air quality management, a Plasmacluster air purifier and burl wood trim; and the $3,000 “Technology Package” which includes all the safety nannies we covered earlier. While $75K sounds steep, the QX56 is actually a “bargain” in the luxo-hauler class. Similarly equipped, the Mercedes GL550 will set you back $89,818, the Cadillac Escalade Platinum  $82,035 and the Lexus X570 will ding you $89,356. It should be noted that despite the Cadillac of price tags, the Escalade lacks many of the advanced active safety features of the QX.

As much as I might like to think of myself as a mild-greenie, I have always had a strangely large place in my heart for large vehicles. You know you like ’em big too. However politically incorrect it may be to drive a large SUV, and keeping the fact that few people really “need” a full-size SUV, the QX56 is a solid entry in this niche and 2011 sales bear this out with the QX outselling the Lexus LX570 fourfold. Indeed the QX outsells all but the Escalade, and for good reason, with a fresh new look, upscale interior and more electronic doodads than the competition for a lower price point, the QX56 should be at the top of your super-sized list.


0-30: 2.161 seconds
0-60: 5.61 seconds
1/4 Mile: 14.27 seconds @ 97 MPH

Infiniti provided the vehicle, insurance and one tank of gas for this review.

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60 Comments on “Review: 2012 Infiniti QX56 Take Two...”

  • avatar

    OMFG and WTF only barely starts to describe what I thought when I saw that front end. How dare anyone critizise Acura’s beak or Buicks portholes with that atrocity on the roads. Thank god we only get the Pathfinder over here… This thing really makes me appreciate the understated beauty of the Juke and the last CR-V…
    Sorry, I didn’t read the review yet, the pictures just threw me off :P

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    Byron Hurd

    Infiniti’s “assist” nannies are far too draconian for my taste, and too easily fooled by situations that aren’t a threat at all to the driver’s safety.

    The radar-guided cruise in the Hyundai Equus is better executed than any I’ve experienced in an Infiniti.

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    Too fat and too ugly. It’s the drylbrg of SUVs.

    • 0 avatar

      After the rugged design rationality of the 1980 Patrol, the impotent 1987 Land-Cruiseresque Patrol, and the sober Nissan-corporate design of the 2010 Patrol…

      … we get this abomination of a dead whale as the incarnation of the Patrol in the U.S.?

      Pity. Quite a lack of respect for the Patrol heritage. And looks like retrofitting the handsome world Patrol fascia into this plastic-surgery-gone-bad contraption will be impossible.

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    Wow, this near 3 ton behemoth can get to 60 damn quick!

    • 0 avatar

      Indeed, especially for a ~6,000lb vehicle. It’s almost a full second quicker than my 6-speed 330i. I rest well knowing the Nimitz-class QX hits an aerodynamic brick wall after 60mph.

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    Alex – Excellent review…I like the real world approach – the ‘it is what it is’…

    That being said, the QX is truly FAST for the monster it is and I know what you mean on size…Looks ‘LARGE’ from a distance but park next to one it is ‘SUPER SIZED’ (even next to my daily driver Honda Ridgeline)

    Having a 2008 G35xS as my other ride, I have to say that Infiniti does interiors right. High quality materials and they wear as good as they look…Great sound systems, excellent seats, etc.

    You’d have to be a complete knucklehead…or REAL gangsta to buy a Escalade over a QX.

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    2006 Subaru Tribeca, I’m gonna let you finish, but the 2012 Infiniti QX56 is the ugliest vehicle ever made!

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    the car begins to slow for a red light, if the QX56 sees that you are closing on the car in front of you it will begin pushing the accelerator pedal up at you to indicate your need to act, if you lift off the accelerator and you are close enough to the car in front, the QX will automatically apply the brakes taking you all the way to a complete stop.

    Having once been rear ended by a woman reaching back to beat her kids – I think this is a great idea.

    Our options list included: the $2,950 “Theater Package” with dual 7-inch headrest monitors for the second row, wireless headphones, second row power-folding heated seats and a built-in 120V AC inverter

    $2,950? I think I’d rather just buy iPads for all the passengers…

    • 0 avatar

      Right on both counts. You can load up a couple of ipads with a lot of movies for $3k.

      Regarding the safety package, a lot of the mommy’s piloting these things consider driving itself to be a distraction from the phone, texting, and dealing with their kids. When you are stopped at a light nothing is quite as fun as looking in your rear view mirror and seeing any vehicle coming at you with the driver not looking ahead.

      There are a LOT of drivers that need safety nannies; good drivers won’t be inconvenienced and bad drivers can use the assistance.

      • 0 avatar

        Amen on the first point.

        “Most luxury brands offer radar cruise control as an option, but Infinit’s packs a socialist twist: an accelerator pedal that fights back.”

        And what exactly makes this a ‘Socialist twist’? That it doesn’t lay down for the man and just do what he tell me? From your discription all it really does is politely remind the driver to pay attention.

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    The stated HP rating must be low if the 1/4 mile times are to be believed as that 14.27 second time is closer to what 400 wheel hp would yield; otherwise, 400 flywheel hp at 5850 pounds yields a more believable fifteen second quarter mile.

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    For some reason that grille reminds me of those cow-catchers that they’d use on steam engines back in the day.

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    “Lane Departure Prevention not only tells you when you cross the line without signalling, it will actually use the brakes to steer you back in your lane.”

    This feature should be made compulsory on all cars (particularly BMWs). Maybe then people will start using their signals again.

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    “I came too close to a pair of Smart Fortwos and accidentally pulled them into orbit.”

    This made me lol. Now the QX has a pair of shuttlecraft for landing parties.

    • 0 avatar

      You don’t park the QX. You disembark onto one of the Smarts and park that, and leave the Infiniti on the highway cruising by itself until you want to get back onboard, at which point you get in the Smart, catch up to the QX (which will still be doing laps on the highway because it can’t change lanes), allow gravity to grab the Smart again and then transfer back to the QX and go home.

      It’s an interesting system. I can’t wait to see it in action.

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    Having recently spent a considerable amount of time in two Infiniti dealers in two different states, both dealers did not stock or recommend the technology package in any of their vehicles. They would get one for you if you insisted.

    It seems most of the gremlins occurring in new Infiniti’s involve the Tech Package. Even worse, if you need to replace a Tech Package windshield, its $800 or so and probably not covered by insurance or warranty.

    Finally, one thing not mentioned in the review that I saw in person was the incredible 2nd row leg room…better than the Cadillac and considerably greater than the Lexus….which sacrificed 2nd row legroom for the 3rd row. The QX 2nd row even adjusts fore and aft and reclines.

    • 0 avatar

      Neither of the dealers we shopped for my wife’s G37 stocked cars with the Tech Package either. It’s so expensive, and has been so savaged by the buff books, that I can’t see many people ordering it.

      • 0 avatar

        Can you elaborate on this? My friend is thinking about getting the new JX as soon as it comes out and unfortunately thinks that Infiniti can do nothing wrong and what the dealer says is gospel.

    • 0 avatar

      No kidding. I was recently driving a Lexus and the park assist went crazy because of snow on the bumper. What happens when the lane assist doesn’t work in this thing…it hits the brakes for you? Yikes.

      • 0 avatar
        Alex L. Dykes

        The lane assist and cruise control are radar based rather than ultrasonic so when they are blocked by snow or ice they just act as if nothing is there rather than the ultrasonic sensors which think something is reeeealy close.

  • avatar

    People can stop mocking the Pontiac Aztek now. There’s a new game in town.

  • avatar

    Finally, Patrol in the U.S. Just needs a few cm of lift and the mechanical winch.

  • avatar

    It is called many things. In England, it’s the Chelsea Tractor. Here in Chicago, the Trixie Tractor. And there’s nothing scarier than the sound of its engine revving over one’s shoulder for bicyclists, pedestrians, motorcyclists and drivers of tiny English convertibles. I, too, have been but one Prada blonde’s make-up application/text message/hunger-induced hallucination from meeting the great infinity with a great Infiniti logo imprinted upon the back of my head.

  • avatar

    How in the #e!! did you get these acceleration numbers?? 0-60 and 1/4 mile are a full second faster than any other magazine achieved with this SUV??? That must be a typo…

    Anyway I have a 2088 G35S as a daily driver and a BMW 335i Convertible as a summer car. Comparing the two the Infiniti does a lot of things right and much better than BMW. Especially reliability is great and light years better than my BMW (my G35 has the best a/c system in any car I ever had; the 335i is horribly weak in the summer heat). Then there are some very irritating things where Infiniti misses the mark unnecessarily (Infinit’s heated seats and heated rear window are horribly weak and the fog lights are a complete joke).

  • avatar

    Nice review.

    It’s a cool car. Infinit’s doing pretty well here I think

    It’s like a Slade SS.

  • avatar

    This thing looks like a Beluga Whale on wheels.

  • avatar

    1. This is the first time anyone has gotten less than 6 seconds to 60 in one of these.
    2. The Lexus STARTS at $80k, so this should outsell it by quite a bit.

    This is a competitor for the Escalade, not the crossover Benz or the Range Rover fighter LX570

  • avatar

    I was recently in the market for a Luxury SUV and I looked this over because to have a second row bench seat, you have to get a theatre package. It is stupid, I keep third row DOWN at all times, so a 4 passenger vehicle makes no sense.

    I chose the 2012 Audi Q7 over this, GL450, Escalade, Toyota Sequoia and Yukon Denali. Escalade’s plastics are surprisingly low quality compared to the rest

  • avatar
    Educator(of teachers)Dan

    I still say it would take very little photoshopping (or time in a hot rod shop) to make this sucker look like a Buick Caballero wagon. Make it a hardtop, chrome the bumpers, two tone paint…

  • avatar

    I have submitted your pics to

  • avatar

    Wow. Ghetto fabulous indeed.

    Those “portholes” look like they came straight out of the Autozone plastic applique aisle. (No kidding)

    I’m sure it’s great inside but I wouldn’t be able to get over how bad it looks from the outside.

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    You hsve to be Ray Charles iyou cant tell the Tahoe and Escalade apart, and you have to be Stevie Wonder to like this POS

  • avatar

    There is something kind of scary about 5,850 pounds of nannified monster SUV that can go 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds.

    That’s tickling first generation US WRX stock out of the box acceleration.

  • avatar

    Two words. Mother Fugly.

  • avatar

    “Infinit’s packs a socialist twist: an accelerator pedal that fights back.”

    That sums up a lot and made the article for me! Kind of a going theme in California and the Bay Area in particular. Murilee’s Brezhnev would be proud…

    I didn’t like this thing when it was first reviewed last year and I feel the same way now. I see one now and then where I live. It’s definitely an oddball – if it weren’t an SUV, I may just be interested for that alone, however.

    Admittedly, these types of vehicles have their appeal – they ride like Cadillacs and have the thirst to go with it. The cost of clothing and feeding them is why I will never own one – that and my commute – it would bankrupt me in no time!

  • avatar

    Rosanne Barr of automobiles is back!

    Personally I’d take the GMT-800 short wheel base two mode hybrid(Tahoe, Yukon, or Escalade) for less nannies and upper 20’s mpg.

  • avatar

    The toll on the George Washington Bridge connecting New York and New Jersey just went up to $12. In the Mideast we’re one Sunburn anti-ship missile away from $10/gallon gas. Sales of monster SUV’s are up?

    Good to see that the 1 Percenters keep on 1 Percenting.

  • avatar

    They should have styled the interior in red with something that resembles ribs for the headliner so you can truly feel like Jonah while piloting this rolling Cetacea.

  • avatar

    Faux knurl? Cancel my order.

  • avatar

    While I do not doubt the competency and utility of this vehicle, I just can’t get over the exterior styling. I know it subjective but to my eyes that is the ugliest motherf*&#er of an SUV since the Aztek.

    Having said that – Nice review Alex.

  • avatar
    jd arms

    I own two Infinitis and most of their vehicles I find appealing, but this monstrosity has always been an eyesore, be it based on the Nissan Armada or Patrol. First, as much as they may try, Infiniti cannot disguise this SUV with smoother edges in an attempt to make it more “sporty” looking. The Gs are sporty, the Ms are sporty (and their most beautiful car right now), the EX is sporty-ish, and the FX is sporty for what it is. Even this new JX, it has decent lines. This behemoth? No. They can drop the biggest, fastest engine into it; it is still a land whale. And it is garish.

    Occasionally I find myself at the Infiniti dealer, and when I am there, I always check out all the new models….except this pig. This is truly goddawful, and I am someone who finds the polarizing FX appealing.

    Infiniti need to slow down with the design cues on pretty much their entire lineup. I don’t need another flashy, wavvy grill on the FX, or any portholes, or any chrome over the trunk of my G. Leave the hard edges to Cadillac and the garish grills to Acura. Go back to the smooth, understated, flowing lines of the original Gs, or even better, the old Js. The old J30s are still cool looking today.

  • avatar

    How can this thing be nearly as fast my Z ?!?

    Let’s see it brakes itself and it steers itself… no wonder why you need all sorts of LCD screens and cameras to look at, what else is there to do? At least its ugly and expensive.

  • avatar

    While I appreciate the rational way a number of commenters have posted on the performance of this beast, I have to call BS on this one. 5.6 and 14.27? You’re about a second past believable on both of those.

    I think I recall a previous article where testing methods were explained, so I won’t begrudge an explanation. And I also tend to agree with the implied lack of focus here on these “hard numbers,” stupid methods of comparison the big time magazines are always throwing around. After all, who cares if the QX56 can do the quarter mile three tenths of a second faster than an Escalade? (numbers used for example only) Only idiot fanboys, I imagine.

    Still, for all you asking how this thing got to 60 in 5.6? Here’s the answer: It didn’t happen.

  • avatar

    Everywhere else I’ve read that the 0-60 time is closer to 7 seconds. 5.6 seems ludicrously fast for a vehicle this heavy.

    Motor Trend optimistically says 6.1, AOL auto says 6.7 and a couple of other sites have it over 7. How’d you manage to cut another .5-1.5 seconds off that time? I’m impressed.

  • avatar

    Pertaining to the fuel economy in full size SUVs, does the diesel GL350 BlueTEC not count? Isn’t it rated for 20/25 mpg, or something close to that?

  • avatar

    A rapper could shock and disgust society by driving this thing on the road. I don’t know if the songs do it anymore (not that I follow rap).

  • avatar

    Wow, you are all too focussed on how it looks. It’s not great, but, it looks better in person, and I dare you to put it up next to the Lexus. It’s hard to make a big car loook good. Have you seen that Lexus 570? Have you ever seen a 400lb person with their shirt off? With great globs of goo hanging off in bags? That’s the Lexus 570. Comparitively, this car is tightened up but still contoured and interesting to look at.

    Regarding the Radar Cruise. I for one, would love it. I drive I70 in the Colorado mountains a lot. Being able to set the cruise at 70 and have it take care of the stop and go would be SO awesome. The lane departure stuff I could take or leave, but, if it kept me from swiping someone just once, GREAT. These systems will be in all cars in 10 years, so get used to it. (But I DO hope they can be reliable)

  • avatar

    What a fat ugly abonination. Buick wants there port holes back. 0- 60 in 5.6 seconds. You guys must have had a real friendly tail wind on your side in that test.

  • avatar

    I just traded in my POS GL450 for one of these about 2 weeks ago. I must say this is by far the best SUV I have ever owned. It’s comfortable, quality is high, and it’s fast. Very fun to drive! So far I’m averaging 18.2 mpg combined hwy/city driving.

    The GL450 was the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned. I mean what else could go wrong??? Completely turned off from MBZ after that. German Engineering should be considered a warning.


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