GM's Toe Tag Sale Vs. Toyota's Saved by Zero

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

In the same press release in which General Motors revealed its 45 percent October sales hit, The General announced that it had brought forward its [now] annual Red Tag Sale. “We’ll do our part to continue fighting against these significant economic headwinds by bringing consumers the highest quality, most fuel efficient and affordable cars, trucks and crossovers that we can,” GM Marketing Maven Mark LaNeve wrote. [How reassuring is that— given GM’s product development freeze.] “To that end, LaNeve announced that GM’s no-haggle Red Tag Event… will provide great deals on most new vehicles in GM’s portfolio by offering a special Red Tag vehicle price and customer cash back. In addition, GM’s recently announced ‘Financing That Fits’ program enables consumers to find financing at affordable rates from GMAC and thousands of other banks, credit unions and financing institutions.” That’s it? No haggle plus the usual blizzard of incentives, special offers, discounts, rebates, trade-in allowance, finance offers and $2k-off coupons? GM must not have read Steven Lang’s “ MSRP RIP.” Meanwhile, The Detroit News reports that Toyota’s extended its “Saved by Zero” zero percent finance offers on 11 vehicles ’til December first. Guess who’s gonna win this one? [make the jump for examples of GM Toe Taggers]

Red Tag Event Examples (tax, title and license fees are extra):

2008 GMC Yukon Denali AWD $56,315 MSRP

Red Tag Price $51,830

Cash Back Offers -$5,000

Red Tag Price after cash back $46,830 or less

($9,485 value compared to MSRP)

2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 4WD $29,480 MSRP

Red Tag Price $27,397

Cash Back Offers -$5,500

Red Tag Price after cash back $21,897 or less

($7,583 value compared to MSRP)

2008 Buick Lucerne $31,880 MSRP

Red Tag Price $30,446

Cash Back Offers -$3,750

Red Tag Price after cash back $26,696 or less

($5,184 value compared to MSRP)

2009 Saturn Vue XE $23,745 MSRP

Red Tag Price $22,675

Cash Back Offers -$1,000

Red Tag Price after cash back $21,675 or less

($2,070 value compared to MSRP)

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  • Mbeds Mbeds on Nov 09, 2008

    I can't pay cash but I would have $$ to pay for repairs. I would certainly keep it beyond the loan period. Might not be worth much by that time though. I wonder if I am better off with a slightly used Accord or something that keeps its value. A 2 year old Accord would be about the same price. Why can't the American companies build a ****** car that competes with Honda and Toyota? I just don't get it. I want to support GM but this is ridiculous.

  • Landcrusher Landcrusher on Nov 09, 2008

    I am a big fan of paying cash because it keeps people from spending too much on cars. Not having debt has a financial return which goes way beyond the interest cost. Of all the people who I know well enough to have a good idea of their finances, income does not correlate nearly as well with net worth as does debt avoidance. When it comes to cars, you can make a spreadsheet using information from Edmunds and other sources to help you decide the actual cost of a car. Once you look at that equation, you will find that in almost all cases, finance cost and depreciation are what are really adding up on you. You can get rid of finance cost buy paying cash. Depreciation has become really hard to predict, but it's hard to argue against a 2 year old Accord. OTOH, given what you might pay for some GM cars right now, the actual depreciation off of sales price might actually compare. That one is up to you.

  • SCE to AUX Over the last 15 years and half a dozen vehicles, my Hyundais and Kias have been pretty cheap to maintain and insure - gas, hybrid, and electric.I hate buying tires - whose cost goes by diameter - and I'm dreading the purchase of new 19s for the Santa Fe.I also have an 08 Rabbit in my fleet, which is not cheap to fix.But I do my own wrenching, so that's the biggest factor.
  • MaintenanceCosts '19 Chevy Bolt: Next to nothing. A 12v battery and a couple cabin air filters. $400 over five years.'16 Highlander Hybrid, bought in 2019: A new set of brakes at all four corners, a new PCV valve, several oil changes, and two new 12v batteries (to be fair, the second one wasn't the car's fault - I had the misfortune of leaving it for a month with both third-row interior lights stealthily turned on by my kid). Total costs around $2500 over five years. Coming due: tires.'11 BMW 335i, bought in late 2022: A new HID low beam bulb (requiring removal of the front fascia, which I paid to have done), a new set of spark plugs, replacements for several flaking soft-touch parts, and two oil changes. Total costs around $1600 over a year and a half. Coming due: front main seal (slow leak).'95 Acura Legend, bought in 2015: Almost complete steering and suspension overhauls, timing belt and water pump, new rear brakes, new wheels and tires, new radiator, new coolant hoses throughout, new valve cover gaskets, new PS hoses, new EGR valve assembly, new power antenna, professional paint correction, and quite a few oil changes. Total costs around $12k over nine years. Coming due: timing belt (again), front diff seal.
  • SCE to AUX Given this choice - I'd take the Honda Civic Sport Hatchback (CVT). I 'built' mine for $28777.To my eye, the Civic beats the Corolla on looks these days.But for the same money, I can get an Elantra N-Line with 7-speed DCT, 201 HP, and good fuel economy, so I'd rather go for that.
  • Dr.Nick The cars seem really expensive with tight back seats and Cadillac was on the list of the highest price gouging dealers coming out of COVID. I don’t understand the combination, shouldn’t they be offering deals if they are not selling?
  • Dr.Nick Too bad the Turbo XT isn’t coming. The Outback Turbo is not bad at all, would be a lot of fun in the shorter Forester.
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