Hammer Time: Tricking a Birddog

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

Every few months I get an unwanted creature in my life. It smiles. It makes nice conversation, and for as long as I’m at the auction it almost never leaves me alone. “What did you think about that car Steve?”, “How’s business going Steve?” “Are you going to bid on that car Steve?” Rarely do I get sick of hearing my own name. But when it’s said for the sake of a one sided relationship, my mind wanders to deviant thoughts.

A typical birddog at the sales will eye you as you’re looking at a vehicle. “Hmmm… he likes that vehicle! Oh yes, I’m going to snap this losing streak and outbid him. Some retail buyer will definitely pay more for it!” The trick when it comes to any birddog is to get them to buy rancid crap.

Stare at the rolling turds. Spend time with them. Before the auction begins, go through every little crevice of the interior and spend copious times underneath the hood as el señor birddog pretends to like you. When you walk away from the car, keep looking at it. Longingly. The bigger the turd. The longer the look. Then make a few scribbles on your run list and head to the ‘auction barn’

If the birddog is still on you. Strike up a quick conversation with a friend as he gleefully listens to meaningless pleasantries. Snap a quick wink to your friend, and then tell the birddog, “I’ll be right back.” Walk away out of sight, get an extra copy of the run list, and then make a sharp turn back to your pre-auction inspections. You are now thankfully free from the birddog for a limited time.

Now it’s time to enjoy yourself. On one run list make your usual notes on good cars. On the second run list, make notes of the shitty cars with bid prices that are high enough to keep the birddog out of the auctions for a long time. It’s important not to ever personally insult the birddog because he will try to outbid you out of pure greed and spite until his last line of credit has been shut. Always be nice. Always make sure the ‘bad’ list is within easy sight of the birddog’s eyes.

While you pretend to pay attention to the bidding at the auction, the birddog will note of your turd list at some point. If the fellow is particularly hoversome, you may need to also be extra discrete with your bidding. Some may give the good run list to a dealer friend. But I’ve always found it better to just walk away from the birddog when you need to bid on the good cars, and just give a quick glance and wink to the auctioneer while not missing a beat in your walk. A quick but casual use of your fingers or fist will also give most auctioneers the sign that you need to be extra discreet in your bidding.

Choosing an odd number instead of the usual 100, 500 and 1000 increments also helps. Especially if the auctioneer has a reputation for running up the price. When the auctioneer goes down in price to an amount that has a 600, 800, 1100 in it, many dealers will think that he is trying to bump up the bid… and see if he’ll go lower. For instance out of the four cars I bought today, two were started off at 600 and 1100 instead of 500 and 1000. They were older vehicles. A 1996 Honda Passport and a 1998 Saturn LS1. I didn’t receive a single competing bid and they both ended up being good cars. As for the birddog….

I waited until another Saturn came through the lane. Salvage title. Frame damage aplenty. Enough peeling paint and rust spots to make it part of native Detroit’s architecture. In fact here was the announcement.

“Announcements: clamp marks, frame damage, miles exempt, rebuilt history, salvage history”

I stared longingly at my favorite turd while the birddog asked me, “Are you going to bid on this?” My answer was, “I don’t know.”. I looked at the car dropped into a crowd where making out my bid would be difficult, and smiled at the auctioneer so that he would look in my direction.

The first bids came in and the dance began. I was lucky enough to have a bidder on my left so it looked like I was bidding. But I wasn’t. I made eye contact with the auctioneer and then looked at the birddog with a shrug and grin to auctioneer that implied, “You have a live one over there.” The birddog obliged and soon he bid the poor Frankenstein into the nether-regions of amateur ignorance.

Afterwards the birddog came directly to me while I was picking up my buy sheets, “Did you bid on that Saturn Steve?” I played dumb, “Yeah… but I got outbid. It’s hard to buy cars these days, huh!”

Do I feel guilty? Hell no! I will have one less competitor in my life come next Monday.

Steven Lang
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  • Obbop Obbop on Dec 21, 2010

    For general "what the heck" purposes at one time within the trucking world (and I doubt if a new term has emerged) a "bird dog" was a slang term for a radar detector. Not earth-shattering news but perhaps enlightening for some especially since the demise of the bustling days of the CB radio in the 1970s among the general motoring public up tp today where even many of the truckers have reduced their "ratchet-jawing."

  • Gardiner Westbound Gardiner Westbound on Dec 21, 2010

    I had a dealer bid on used car for me. He got a generous finder's fee. I got an excellent car at the low end of fair market value. At the last minute he put the move on me to buy an $1,800 extended warranty. He apparently assumed insanity would strike and I would go for it. Told him I would take the car at the agreed price, but not the warranty. We're not buddies anymore. Looking back, notwithstanding I got a good car at the agreed price, it wasn't worth the hassle. Now I just shop for cars like everybody else. I would rather deal with a businessman or private seller. If I don't like him what he's got I can just walk.

    • Dastanley Dastanley on Dec 22, 2010

      For the most part, the buyer has the advantage of just walking anytime the deal takes a turn for the worse. The buyer can (theoretically) buy from anyone or anywhere, whereas the seller is stuck with that/those cars. But I know what you mean, I don't like to haggle. My last 2 new cars (over a 15 year period) I bought through USAA and they haggled directly with the dealership owner on behalf of me, the buyer. Once USAA had the dealers' final price, I had the option of taking or leaving it. My last used car I bought through CarMax, the no haggle store. So I've taken the easy way out, although at CarMax I paid more than if I did in fact haggle with a traditional dealer/seller.

  • Alan Years ago Jack Baruth held a "competition" for a piece from the B&B on the oddest pickup story (or something like that). I think 5 people were awarded the prizes.I never received mine, something about being in Australia. If TTAC is global how do you offer prizes to those overseas or are we omitted on the sly from competing?In the end I lost significant respect for Baruth.
  • Alan My view is there are good vehicles from most manufacturers that are worth looking at second hand.I can tell you I don't recommend anything from the Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat/etc gene pool. Toyotas are overly expensive second hand for what they offer, but they seem to be reliable enough.I have a friend who swears by secondhand Subarus and so far he seems to not have had too many issue.As Lou stated many utes, pickups and real SUVs (4x4) seem quite good.
  • 28-Cars-Later So is there some kind of undiagnosed disease where every rando thinks their POS is actually valuable?83K miles Ok.new valve cover gasket.Eh, it happens with age. spark plugsOkay, we probably had to be kewl and put in aftermarket iridium plugs, because EVO.new catalytic converterUh, yeah that's bad at 80Kish. Auto tranny failing. From the ad: the SST fails in one of the following ways:Clutch slip has turned into; multiple codes being thrown, shifting a gear or 2 in manual mode (2-3 or 2-4), and limp mode.Codes include: P2733 P2809 P183D P1871Ok that's really bad. So between this and the cat it suggests to me someone jacked up the car real good hooning it, because EVO, and since its not a Toyota it doesn't respond well to hard abuse over time.$20,000, what? Pesos? Zimbabwe Dollars?Try $2,000 USD pal. You're fracked dude, park it in da hood and leave the keys in it.BONUS: Comment in the ad: GLWS but I highly doubt you get any action on this car what so ever at that price with the SST on its way out. That trans can be $10k + to repair.
  • 28-Cars-Later Actually Honda seems to have a brilliant mid to long term strategy which I can sum up in one word: tariffs.-BEV sales wane in the US, however they will sell in Europe (and sales will probably increase in Canada depending on how their government proceeds). -The EU Politburo and Canada concluded a trade treaty in 2017, and as of 2024 99% of all tariffs have been eliminated.-Trump in 2018 threatened a 25% tariff on European imported cars in the US and such rhetoric would likely come again should there be an actual election. -By building in Canada, product can still be sold in the US tariff free though USMCA/NAFTA II but it should allow Honda tariff free access to European markets.-However if the product were built in Marysville it could end up subject to tit-for-tat tariff depending on which junta is running the US in 2025. -Profitability on BEV has already been a variable to put it mildly, but to take on a 25% tariff to all of your product effectively shuts you out of that market.
  • Lou_BC Actuality a very reasonable question.
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