By on May 5, 2009

Oh noes! The UAW did the math on GM and Chrysler’s newest restructuring plans and it’s not pleased at all. Well, with GM’s plan, anyway. Commence angry letter (PDF) to Senator: [blank]!

“Incredibly, between 2010-2014 GM’s restructuring plan also calls for a 98% increase in the number of vehicles it will be importing into the United States from Mexico, Korea, Japan and China, with the number of imports from these countries increasing from 371,547 to 736,743. As a result, the share of GM’s sales in the U.S. market that will be imported from these countries will increase from 15.5% to 23.5%. The overall number of vehicles GM will be importing in 2014 represents the production of four assembly plants, the same number that GM plans to close in the United States.”

“The UAW recognizes that GM needs to “right-size” its production in the U.S. to reflect current reduced consumer demand for its vehicles. We also recognize that automakers will have facilities in other countries so they can build vehicles in the markets where they sell them. But the UAW strongly objects to GM’s restructuring plan because it essentially means that GM will be shifting more of its manufacturing footprint from the U.S. to Mexico, Korea, Japan and China, and importing more of the vehicles it sells in the U.S. market from these countries. In our judgment, if GM is going to receive government assistance to facilitate its restructuring, along with the benefits from tremendous sacrifices by UAW members and other stakeholders, we believe it should have an obligation to build in this country the vehicles it will be selling in the U.S. market, thereby maintaining the maximum number of jobs in the United States. GM should not be taking taxpayers’ money simply to finance the outsourcing of jobs to other countries.”

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25 Comments on “UAW: “GM should not be taking taxpayers’ money simply to finance the outsourcing of jobs to other countries.”...”


  • avatar
    grifonik

    oh… but… wrong.. wait… must… maybe…

    I simply can’t argue with such illogical logic? Is it so wrong that it has become right (or left?)?

    Rebooting.

  • avatar
    ca36gtp

    Unions: “Waaahhh!! GM needs to sell better-constructed cars from other countries to stay viable instead of selling our poorly-made piles of junk! Waahh!!”

    Cry me a river.

  • avatar
    lw

    Oh what a tangled web we weave….. The US Government will find out that these are the easy decisions.

    What comes in two or three years will be hard.

  • avatar
    Happy_Endings

    This only goes to prove that GM isn’t an American company. They are a global corporation that happens to be headquartered in the US. They do what is in their best interest.

    However, the UAW needs to realize that if GM gets no more money, then their organization has no future. So their choice is either a much lower profile then they previously envisioned or no future. Protectism won’t protect them.

  • avatar
    Jimal

    The image used here, more than any I’ve seen on TTAC in a long time, says it all…

  • avatar
    Samuel L. Bronkowitz

    Attitude of entitlement. As disgusting as the union thinking can be, I guess it’s just human nature… if we have something on a regular enough basis then we begin to assume it is owed to us, and we get damn angry when it is taken away.

    I work in an industry where a lot of folks have lost jobs to off-shoring, but I’ve got no nanny union looking after me (nor, do I think, I would want one). I have to be constantly on the lookout for new things I can do to differentiate myself and prepare for whatever comes next.

    Sadly, for a generation of car builders, there seems to be no “next”.

  • avatar
    coatejo

    Actually you would think that Team Obama would have been clever enough to keep US plant closures to a minimum as a pre-condition to granting all of the government money to keep Cry-Co and Govm’t Motors afloat. (Note all of the near term plant closures for Chrysler are in the US)Imagine the issue of an ill-concieved government sponsored auto industry restructuring that led to massive US auto worker lay-offs due to court-approved outsourcing. The repubs could hit the dems hard over the head with that one if they had any brains. Guess the dems really don’t have anything to worry about.

  • avatar

    OUTSOURCING??!!!

    Hey! Wait there a sec, buddy…
    Ok, look; we will TOTALLY take that whole “market rate” -wage thingie and go for your corporation-bizzaro-world Four-Obi-Wan-ky (???) benefits retirementship with Medi-care!

    Nonononono, Really! -Honest.
    … Now, if we could just go ahead and moooove the ship back to the Good Ole’ US of A and we could have our jobs, -er, um … Back…

    [stunned silence/crickets chirping]

    HA HA! -Jus’ Kiddin’! -GOTCHA- –Nope, we still want our old salaries based on 2x(Ph.D professor rate) with 1/2 the work, personal meth lab o’ drugs and free cars fer life! [lalalalala] -C’mon, man! This is amERica, Dude! -YeeEHAWww!

    Oh that noise? -you mean the [lalalalala]??? -Yeah, that was just a call comin’ in on my Reality Phone. I just close my eyes, puts my fingers in my ears and make that [lala] sound until it stops ringin’.

    -Now about my next pay raise… -Dangit! There goes that dang thing again. Keep tryin’ to put in on mute; -hang on a sec…
    [lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
    lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
    lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala…

  • avatar
    BDB

    “The repubs could hit the dems hard over the head with that one if they had any brains. ”

    Exactly!

  • avatar

    Oh, and re: image.
    Here’s the next UAW logo:
    http://www.corn-utopia.com/Corn%20Utopia%20on%20the%20Web/Photo%20&%20Image%20Stockpile%20-%20CornUtopia/cannibal%20baby.jpg

    or this:
    http://kevinporter.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dogchasingtail.png

  • avatar
    lw

    If they want to win back the country, the repub’s need to do nothing….

    Read this.. Then tell me if it reminds you of a certain POTUS…

    “”I could sell shit at an anti-scat party,” he says, “you have to figure out someone’s wants and needs and convince them what you have will fill their emotional void.” A con man is essentially a salesman–a remarkably good one–who excels at making people feel special and understood. A con man validates the victim’s desire to believe he has an edge on other people.

    It requires avid study of psychology and body language. It’s an amazing paradox–a con man has incredible emotional insight, but without the burden of compassion. He must take an intense interest in other people, complete strangers, and work to understand them, yet remain detached and uninvested. That the plan is to cheat these people and ultimately confirm many of their fears cannot be of concern.

    Mr Lovell draws people in by mirroring their body language. He breaks their defences by entering their physical space.

  • avatar
    rjones

    “GM should not be taking taxpayers’ money”.

    Full stop.

  • avatar
    lw

    An interesting twist…

    The good Chryco / Bad Chyrco strategy will bankrupt the state of Michigan’s Workers Comp fund.

    http://detnews.com/article/20090505/AUTO01/905050422/Michigan-agency-objects-to-Chrysler-sale

    Ouch…

  • avatar
    reclusive_in_nature

    Perhaps more of the so called patriotic customers would purchase more domestics if GM/Chrysler/Ford would market the hell out of the few vehicles that are manufactured in the U.S.

  • avatar
    teddy

    the uaw is so right. taxpayers are giving gm money and then management is moving more production overseas? outrageous! these are the types of actions that are ruining our country. what about some loyalty, gratitude or just plain old common sense for a change. are all these captains of industry out of their minds? we have to do whats right for us here- not mexico or china- and thats make our cars here. this nations wealth and power were built on industrial might, to dismantle it and send it overseas is the height of stupidity

  • avatar
    shaker

    It’s already been happening for some time; many major vehicle components are made in China, Korea and Mexico – haven’t the workers seen the writing on the shipping crates?

  • avatar
    jurisb

    How can you not outsource jobs overseas, if there are almost no engineers left who would be able to tackle complex tasks. Even Boeing couldn`t scrap enough engineers to design hunch on the back of 747 for the cargo version., so it had to hire 200 russian engineers.Strangely enough, today we are not talking only about cheap labor force, we are talking about engineering abilities. No wonder Gm has facilities in germany, Intel in japan ,etc. This is what happens when all you teach in schools is how to paint ballons in classes and enjoy life from communicative approach.

  • avatar
    PeteMoran

    Michael Moore was right! (Again).

  • avatar
    A is A

    the uaw is so right. taxpayers are giving gm money and then management is moving more production overseas? outrageous! these are the types of actions that are ruining our country. what about some loyalty, gratitude or just plain old common sense for a change. are all these captains of industry out of their minds? we have to do whats right for us here- not mexico or china- and thats make our cars here

    * You are free to vote with your dolars buying a US made car: A Toyota, an Honda or even a Chrysler or a GM product.

    * Other people should be free to do the same thing with their money: Decide what they want to buy. It is their money, they decide. Not you nor the UAW should decide on this matter.

    Protectionism is inmoral because it deprives buyers to do what they want with their money, and that is equal to depriving them of doing what they want with their life.

  • avatar
    akear

    Only a fool would want their tax dollars going abroad to pay foreign workers. This is nuts.

  • avatar
    Rod Panhard

    Why is the UAW surprised by GM’s long-range survival plan? The UAW should follow the money. There are plenty of oppressed workers in China who need help organizing so they can bargain collectively with their corporate masters. The UAW can then prop up their benefits with current contributions.

    Maybe I’m venturing into “tin foil hat” territory, but the Obamians gave the UAW a cramdown on worthless Chrysler stock to fund the UAW’s benefits and health care fund.

    The Obamians are hedging their bets. If Chrysler gets “saved,” then they can point to their success and say, “Hey look what we did to fund a health care plan. Public-Private partnership!”

    If the Chrysler croaks, then they can point at flaming hulk known as the UAW’s VEBA fund and say, “Look, now that’s a classic example of a need for government intervention and the establishment of Universal Health Care.”

    We know Chrysler’s doomed.

    Don’t forget, you saw it here first on TTAC.

  • avatar
    superbadd75

    Since all of this bailout money was thrown at GM and Chrysler under the guise of saving American jobs, I agree that GM’s plan should not include dropping thousands of American jobs in favor of building in foreign countries to save a buck.

    That said, the UAW can go f**k themselves. Their sense of entitlement has helped put them and the car companies they work for in this current situation. The pic at the top of the thread really pisses me off, and says a lot to me about their attitude. Will strike if provoked, huh? So your company asking you to make concessions so you can still have a job in a few months is being provoked? Well go ahead and strike, you stupid sons of bitches, you might not have a job to go back to.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    Since all of this bailout money was thrown at GM and Chrysler under the guise of saving American jobs, I agree that GM’s plan should not include dropping thousands of American jobs in favor of building in foreign countries to save a buck.

    The problem is that there are trade rules about that sort of thing, designed specifically to prevent spiralling protectionism.

  • avatar
    kovachian

    http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4982/hehr.jpg

    Jus’ sayin’…

  • avatar
    EricTheOracle

    Please, somebody make the bad union go away.

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