E85 Boondoggle of the Day: E20, E30

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

We’ve pointed it out before: the ethanol industry has a cunning plan to breach the “blend wall” (a.k.a. the fact that American customers don’t want E85). While they’re waiting, hoping and praying for a Titanoboa cerrejonensi-sized gas price spike, they’re planning on using their political leverage to “offer” (i.e., force) motorists E20 and E30 ethanol blends. The big problem: it’s not entirely clear that engines like to run on those blends. (E85-compatible vehicles are, uh, E85-compatible). In fact, it’s pretty clear they don’t. But that’s not going to stop the lobby from trying . . .

“The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has granted a testing exemption to Renergie Inc. Under the test program, the first of its kind in the U.S., Renergie will use variable blending pumps, not splash blending, to dispense hydrous ethanol blends of E10, E20, E30 and E85 to test vehicles. The testing could help determine blend optimization with respect to fuel economy, engine emissions and vehicle drivability. Vehicles will be involved in the test program which will last for a period of 15 months.”

And what, pray tell, is “splash blending?”

In the U.S., the primary method for blending ethanol into gasoline is splash blending. The ethanol is “splashed” into the gasoline either in a tanker truck or sometimes into a storage tank of a retail station. Renergie believes the inaccuracy and manipulation of splash blending may be eliminated by precisely blending the ethanol and unleaded gasoline at the point of consumption.

And if you eliminate the imprecision, then maybe, just maybe, E20 for everyone! By law! There’d be joy in cornville that day. And while lawn mower, snowmobile and jet ski owners contemplate that possibility, here’s a bit of scientific hype for those who still think food-into-fuel will save the planet. Or something.

Tests conducted in Europe have shown that the use of hydrous ethanol, which eliminates the need for the hydrous-to-anhydrous dehydration processing step, could mean energy savings of between ten percent and forty-five percent during processing, a four percent product volume increase, higher mileage per gallon, a cleaner engine interior and a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.

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  • Psarhjinian Psarhjinian on Feb 18, 2009
    Anyways, they recommend some retailers that meet TOP TIER standards for gasoline quality and additives. For us Canucks, only Shell and Petro-Canada are on the list. No E10 providers on here, for ones in Calgary anyways I don't know about Alberta, but in Ontario, at Shell, 87 Octane "may contain up to 10% ethanol" while 89 "may contain up to 5%". 91 (which I feed my Saab) is explicitly labelled as ethanol-free
  • FromBrazil FromBrazil on Feb 18, 2009

    @crackheadalley You came down here and rented a Chevy Asstra? Good choice. The engine is a 1960s GM engine with minor modifications. Drinks like there's no tomorrow, can't rev for s***, is noisy and shakes all over, low hp for the displacement. Torquey down low though and relatively reliable. So you fly 1000s of miles to another country and rent a Chevy. Probably ate at McDonald's too. What a way to see the world. FWIW, I live down here and don't have as superficial a vision as he does. I mean, I have to deal with this s*** everyday. There are available at Brazilian gas stations: Premium Gasoine : Higher octane stuff that only a Ferrari can fully appreciate Additivated (??) or maybe Special Gasoline: Comes with some cleansing chemicals that reportedly keep your engine cleaner. Common or Regular Gasoline : is just gasoline with no cleaning chemicals. E100 : 100% sugar cane juice, and as a rule of thumb, you have to multiply gas prices by 70% if the price of ethanol is lower, go for it, you lose in mileage, but the car gets some extra hp, burns cleaner (no sludge issues when using ethanol). BTW All gasoline in BRazil comes with, by law, 21 to 27% ethanol. This range is used to "control" price fluctuations. All said, I'd much rather burn dino juice all day long.

  • MrIcky Having worked several catastrophes for insurance, the following "The bottom line is that if the insurance agency can find ways not to cover the car, they probably won’t." just isn't the way it works. The insurance company will have some drop off areas where cars will be brought. The adjuster will check for water height and draw a line at the high water point with a posca marker. If that line is generally over the electronics- bam, it's totaled, if you have comprehensive they look up your car on KBB and/or NADA by mileage and write a check. Most comprehensive vehicle policies look almost exactly the same-at least for "standard" carriers. If the water line isn't over the electronics, then it generally goes to a shop to get tested. You aren't going to get gamed for a car in a cat loss scenario because there just isn't time to f'with it. After a Houston flooding event I worked 16 hour days for 2 weeks under a big tent like you'd set up for a wedding and went over nearly 100 cars/day taking pictures and sorting them into total or check with mechanic "piles". Most people who had totaled vehicles had a check within 20 minutes of me looking at their car. Buildings on the other hand have all sorts of different terms (commercial or consumer) with regard to how the wind or water entered your building and whether coverage applies.
  • Theflyersfan Well, Milton just went from a tropical storm to 175mph in less than a day so this guy means business. Even if it weakens a little bit, it'll expand and pretty much all of Florida south of Jacksonville is going to feel something. Everyone who saw that disaster in the NC/VA/TN mountains before Helene's landfall is either from the future or a liar (and that includes the insurance companies) because heavy rain started well before the storm arrived and then the crazy thing just sat in that general area. My part of Kentucky - it didn't stop raining for almost five days. And now this nuclear bomb of a hurricane. I understand Florida has a high percentage of homeowners without insurance because they can no longer afford it. My parents have a home near Naples and they carry extra flood and wind coverage and that costs well over five digits per year. Home renovations about 8-9 years ago gave them the chance to make hurricane-proof changes like lashing the roof and hurricane windows. It survived the direct hit from Irma and the heavy punch from Ian so they worked. After this storm, I don't know how Florida will totally recover. Much like California and the earthquakes and firestorms, there might have to be a "Come to Jesus" talk with the perils of living in Florida. I'm already making plans to head down there post-storm if the roads or airport is open in the days following landfall to help cleanup and rebuild any part of the home that might need it. In the short term, if it hasn't happened already, gas prices are probably going to rocket upwards as the oil rigs in the Gulf shut down and prepare. And if this storm directly hits Tampa/St Pete, it's going to be game over in those cities for a while. And imagine if the storm at this power was aiming towards New Orleans or Miami.
  • Jalop1991 "...leaving Doherty and his passenger to be pulled from the wreck by passersby." Or not. I would get a HUGE laugh out of seeing a video of passersby with their phones whipped out, recording it and doing nothing else.
  • Jalop1991 Hey, as soon as the water drains Stellantis will have lots of empty dealer lots to stash their cars on.
  • Mike Beranek Usually, those of us from Salt country will travel down south to find a used car that hasn't been exposed and "won't" rust. At least not right away, like a used car from up here.Now maybe the tables have turned. Will we be seeing lots of rusty cars from states that begin with a vowel running around down south?
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