Volt Birth Watch 117: GM-Volt.com Swings For The Fences

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer
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volt birth watch 117 gm volt com swings for the fences

This is what I get for taking a moment to check in at GM-Volt.com. The angry young Volt-lovers are freaking out about the possibility of GM not surviving until the Volt’s launch date, and the prospect of losing their beloved fetish object has folks in a “pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship” kind of mood. The emotional fervor that these people feel towards this nonexistant vehicle is such that their suggestions make handing a blank check to Detroit look like a good idea. The “ GM-Volt.com Viability Plan Suggestion,” was put forward by semi-retired NASA engineer Phil Toney, and man is it a doozy. The plan boils down to congress legislating that the entire government fleet (600k+ vehicles) be replaced with, you guessed it, Chevy Volts. But that’s not all…

According to GM-Volt.com founder Lyle Dennis, these “Chevy Volts should be sold to the government at premium and without a battery warranty. Each vehicle should be sold at a profit. And in so doing, and assuming sufficient battery pack quantities can be produced, they could be released earlier than the November 2010 deadline” (emphasis in original). This suggestion has been forwarded to “the highest-ranking GM executives” Dennis has access to, because as he puts it, “since the government is already spending billions on bad assets, how about a few billion on good assets!”

Except for the issues with GM rushing to even make the “late 2010” launch date, and the fact that they’ll only be able to build 10k per year. And then there’s the tiny problem of the $30b (600k vehicles x $50k) taxpayer price tag for an unproven product. But by all means, follow Dennis’s advice and forward the plan to your elected representatives. They could probably use a good laugh right about now.

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  • Geotpf Geotpf on Nov 30, 2008
    KixStart : November 28th, 2008 at 11:54 pm GM’s plans are to product 10K Volts in its first full year (2011) and perhaps 200K, total, by 2015. A vehicle built in these piddly quantities means nothing to our National Security. This is a car which GM can neither build economically nor sell at a profit. It can’t save GM but it can help take GM down. Absolutely true. The Volt exists because GM has negative "green" PR, due to the crushing of all the EV1s and things like the HUMMER. It's a PR exercise that will cost the company billions of dollars at a time when they are about to go out of business and can't afford to blow a couple billion dollars at looking green. GM has almost no idea how long the battery will last in practice and what form their warranty will take. Well, it's basically a hybrid, right? Then to qualify for tax credits and the like, the warranty on the battery and all hybrid-related components should be eight years, one hundred thousand miles or longer (the same as the warranty on the Prius's battery and hybrid parts). Of course, Congress could change the law to reduce this requirement if GM says the Volt's battery is too crappy to meet such a requirement.
  • Bertel Schmitt Bertel Schmitt on Nov 30, 2008

    @Greg Locock: Bravo. This argument should be made again, and again, and again.

  • Jeff NYC does have the right to access these charges and unless you are traveling on business or a necessity you don't have to drive or live in NYC. I have been in NYC a few times and I have absolutely no desire to go back. I can say the same thing about Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Houston where I lived for 29 years. A city can get too big where it is no longer livable for many. I was raised in West Houston near the Katy Freeway which is part of I-10. The Katy Freeway when I moved from Houston in 1987 was a 6 lane road--3 lanes on each side of the interstate with each side having side access roads which we called feeder roads for a total of 8 lanes. Today the Katy freeway has 26 lanes which include feeder roads. I went back to Houston in 2010 to see my father who was dying and lost any desire to go back. To expand the Katy Freeway it took thousands of businesses to be torn down. I read an article about future expansion of the Katy freeway that said the only way to expand it was to either put a deck above it or to go underground. One of the things the city was looking at was to have tolls during the peak hours of traffic. Houston is very flat and it is easier to expand the size of roads than in many eastern cities but how easy is it to expand a current road that already has 26 lanes and is one of the widest roads in the World. It seems that adding more lanes to the Katy freeway just expanded the amount of traffic and increased the need for more lanes. Just adding more lanes and expanding roads is not a long term solution especially when more homes and businesses are built in an area. There was rapid growth In Northern Kentucky when I lived in Hebron near the Northern Kentucky Cincinnati Airport. , Amazon built a terminal and facility onto the airport that was larger than the rest of the airport. Amazon built more warehouses, more homes were being built, and more businesses. Boone, Kenton, and Campbell counties in Northern Kentucky are constantly expanding roads and repairing them. Also there is the Brent Spence Bridge which crosses the Ohio River into Cincinnati that is part of I-71 and I-75 and major North and South corridor. The bridge is 60 years old and is obsolete and is in severe disrepair. I-71 and I-75 are major corridors for truck transportation.
  • Art_Vandelay It's not like everyone is topping their ICE vehicles off and coasting into the gas station having used every last drop of fuel either though. Most people start looking to fill up at around a 1/4 of a tank. If you constantly run the thing out of gas your fuel pump would probably be unhappy. If you running your EV to zero daily you probably bought the wrong vehicle
  • ToolGuy Imagine how exciting the automotive landscape will be once other manufacturers catch up with Subaru's horizontally-opposed engine technology.
  • FreedMike Oh, and this..."While London likes to praise its own congestion charging for reducing traffic and increasing annual revenues, tourism has declined..."The reason London's tourism numbers are down is that the city has resumed its' "tourist tax." And why did the tourist tax get reimposed? Brexit. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tourist-tax-cost-millions-myth-hmrc-survey-foreign-visitors-spending-uk-b1082327.html
  • Dukeisduke Eh, still a Nissan. Nope.