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Drivers, Fans React Positively to NASCAR in Chicago

NASCAR's first foray into racing on the streets of downtown Chicago was met with criticism from the public and skepticism from the drivers before the race even took place. Most, if not all, of the drivers sounded a positive tune after being on track. Fans, too, seemed pretty happy with the event.

Tim Healey Jul 03, 2023

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Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Seems like one of those fun cars. Good starter for new drivers.
Tassos Is it old enough, however, to also be Tim's so-called alleged Used Car of the Day?
Cprescott We have learned about corporate strategies and know the following to be truths:[list=1][*] Honduh and Toyoduh will continue to restrict lower price offerings as well to restrict production. This pads not only the distributor's but also the dealer's profit bottom line. People who would buy these brands will wait to get what they want or to pay through the nose since they know the artificially high sales prices elevate the so-called used car/resale prices downstream.[/*][*]Truck buyers may want lower priced offerings, but domestic producers will not cater to consumer demand while they can sell those to fleets without much of a discount. There might be discounts on higher priced offerings, but this won't hurt bottom lines since those prices are inflated well above the actual production cost over the past three years. Even giving back $10k likely leaves $3-5k on the bones of the deal for the manufacturer even assuming having to give some back to dealers to clear lots.[/*][*]No longer is there a stigma of having last year's models still for sale. Now we still see 2023 models for sale and there does not appear to be any hurry to offload them.[/*][*]Interest rates will not change much in the next 12 months so people will bite the bullet now if they need something now - most people are not logical and won't look at used alternatives even with higher mileage.[/*][/list=1]
Theflyersfan Saul Goodman's two-seater.
JMII My take:1) technology is moving quickly in the EV space so most lease and want the newest model every two years. Kind of like getting a new iPhone constantly.2) they are still a touch too expensive new which means they have to offer to discounts to move the metal (or lithium in the case)3) Teslas and Rivians have seen price drops new and used so the same "tide lifts all boats" mentality also means when a few drop they all drop. What goes up must come down.4) insurance cost - my brother reports his Tesla Model Y is $90 a month more then his wife's Audi Q5 to ensure. These two vehicles are pretty much the same type, size and cost yet the EV is more expensive to ensure. I assume this is because any accident can damage the battery which would renders the whole thing worthless. I am thankfully for all of this, as my wife's next vehicle will be a Genesis GV60 for 50% off based on this trend. We test drove a new one this weekend and immediately the sales guy said he would take $17k off the sticker! Clearly these things aren't selling. The car is amazing, is so smooth, fast and quiet along with being wide, comfortable and luxurious plus loaded with mind blowing tech (it drives and parks itself). The acceleration and lack of gear changes means it just goes like a jet with unreal and endless thrust. The rate of forward movement is just unreal. At $70k its insane money however at $30-40k on the used market in 12-18 months this vehicle downright amazing. We can't wait to get one.

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