QOTD: What Price Performance?

I concluded my 2024 Ford Mustang GT review by pointing out that if you order a fully-loaded GT it will cost you around $60K, and that strikes me as expensive -- especially for a model that once offered V8 power for a relatively low price.

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Sorry, Shoppers: October Auto Sales Expected to Slip, Along With Incentives

Analysts are projecting U.S. light vehicle sales will decline in October as incentives do the same. Could they possibly be related?

While we don’t have have official figures on how much of the domestic population has a limitless supply of cash, our collective intuition suggests most do not. This leads us to believe the elevated cost of owning an automobile has likely impacted deliveries for this month. Fortunately, the experts seem to agree, predicting the lowest October volume since 2014.

New vehicle incentives have been on the decline for a while now. This looks to be the fourth consecutive month without a rebound — which would make it the longest time frame since the recession, according to J.D. Power. That’s not necessarily a bad thing for automakers, since they’re losing less money on every model sold.

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Damn: Used Cars Are Getting More Expensive

Ever since the end of the recession, new car prices have crept up steadily while used vehicle values remained comparably low. In fact, compact cars actually became less expensive between 2013 and 2017 as the crossover craze left a glut of small, economical vehicles that could be purchased for little more than a smile.

Unfortunately, the tide is turning. A sudden influx of end-of-lease vehicles was supposed to continue suppressing used vehicle prices for 2018. However, things have not played out that way. Despite there being so many gently used vehicles saturating dealer lots, average used-vehicle prices reached $20,153 in the second quarter of this year — making it the first time the market has ever broken the $20K threshold. According to research firm Edmunds, the 3.3-percent increase over 2017’s second quarter was also a record.

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QOTD: The $36,000 Question

According to several sources, the average price of a new car in America currently hovers around $36,000. This is being consistently dragged upward by folks who just gotta have that Denali or deploy a GL65 AMG to tool around the streets of Beverly Hills.

Using that yardstick, lets play a game. Imagine you have to go out and buy a new car — right now — with today’s average price as your upper limit. But there’s a catch — it’ll be your only car for the next 10 years.

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Your Love for Trucks Has Average Transaction Prices Beating Inflation

All that leg-stretching, snot-nosed kid-hauling, hockey equipment-carrying, ATV-lugging space that new vehicle buyers so desperately crave comes at a premium.

Thanks to this insatiable thirst for crossovers, SUVs, and pickups, the average new vehicle transaction price jumped to a new record in 2016. Good news for manufacturers, but also for those selling their old ride.

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FCA Wins, Volkswagen Loses in Average New Car Price During September

The average transaction price for a new car edged up slightly August to September from $33,563 to $33,730, researchers at Kelley Blue Book said Thursday.

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles posted the largest gain over the same month last year, as the automaker increased its average transaction price 4.1 percent to $34,809. Unsurprisingly, Volkswagen was the only major automaker to post a loss in the report, losing 1.6 percent from August to September this year, and 0.1 percent from September 2014.

Ford, General Motors and Kia/Hyundai all posted gains over 3 percent, year-over-year. Overall, the industry average for new car transaction prices rose 2 percent from September 2014 to September 2015. Toyota was the other automaker to fall below the industry average for gains. Its average transaction price increased by only 0.6 percent.

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US Spending On New-Car Purchases Hit All-Time High In May 2015

As loan terms continue to stretch further into the future, spending on new-car purchases hit a new all-time high in May 2015.

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US New-Truck Leases Rise Thanks To Higher Residuals, Transactions, More Content

Forget about leasing Benzes and Lexuses: trucks are the new hotness, thanks to higher residuals and transaction prices, as well as more content.

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2015 US Auto Sales Expected To Push Past 17M Units

This year is set to end on a high note as far as U.S. car sales are concerned, with 2015 shaping up to be the best year in a long time.

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November U.S. Car & Truck Sales Up 9% Overall, Led By GM & Chrysler

AutomakerNov. 2013Nov. 2012Pct. chng.11 month
201311 month
2012Pct. chng.BMW Group36,41136,5400%332,725304,5979% BMW division31,75231,2132%271,891244,06111% Mini4,5755,248–13%59,91059,6670% Rolls-Royce84796%9248696%BMW Group36,41136,5400%332,725304,5979%Chrysler Group142,275122,56516%1,639,3611,499,4209% Chrysler Division21,02418,76612%282,222282,4540% Dodge41,50640,0754%548,654472,59816% Dodge/Ram72,76165,14912%880,469742,64119% Fiat3,0753,603–15%39,49140,065–1% Jeep45,41535,04730%437,179434,2601% Ram31,25525,07425%331,815270,04323%Chrysler Group142,275122,56516%1,639,3611,499,4209%Daimler AG37,34532,65814%306,898273,69412% Maybach–5–100%–45–100% Mercedes-Benz36,38631,94914%298,489264,63613% Smart USA95970436%8,4099,013–7%Daimler AG37,34532,65814%306,898273,69412%Ford Motor Co.189,705177,0927%2,268,6442,030,10712% Ford division182,978171,3607%2,194,9341,955,34112% Lincoln6,7275,73217%73,71074,766–1%Ford Motor Co.189,705177,0927%2,268,6442,030,10712%General Motors212,060186,50514%2,555,9212,349,9849% Buick15,07213,28913%190,130163,93516% Cadillac16,17214,51711%164,378131,53425% Chevrolet145,089128,86713%1,793,6321,684,5557% GMC35,72729,83220%407,781369,96010%General Motors212,060186,50514%2,555,9212,349,9849%Honda (American)116,507116,5800%1,390,0571,290,0118% Acura14,55912,24619%149,685140,1827% Honda Division101,948104,334–2%1,240,3721,149,8298%Honda (American)116,507116,5800%1,390,0571,290,0118%Hyundai Group101,41694,5427%1,159,3261,161,9930% Hyundai division56,00553,4875%657,778643,5722% Kia45,41141,05511%501,548518,421–3%Hyundai Group101,41694,5427%1,159,3261,161,9930%Jaguar Land Rover6,0474,40037%59,65449,45221% Jaguar1,446713103%15,40810,96241% Land Rover4,6013,68725%44,24638,49015%Jaguar Land Rover6,0474,40037%59,65449,45221%Maserati887208326%3,7152,39755%Maserati887208326%3,7152,39755%Mazda20,75421,691–4%260,983249,7935%Mazda20,75421,691–4%260,983249,7935%Mitsubishi6,0713,57470%55,80453,6774%Mitsubishi6,0713,57470%55,80453,6774%Nissan106,52896,19711%1,138,6621,042,3669% Infiniti13,15211,89711%103,223107,250–4% Nissan Division93,37684,30011%1,035,439935,11611%Nissan106,52896,19711%1,138,6621,042,3669%Subaru36,62128,20630%384,511299,78828%Subaru36,62128,20630%384,511299,78828%Suzuki*–2,224–100%5,94623,412–75%Suzuki*–2,224–100%5,94623,412–75%Toyota178,044161,69510%2,045,1991,888,3618% Lexus25,61122,71913%239,090213,55912% Scion4,9685,606–11%63,99867,983–6% Toyota division147,465133,37011%1,742,1111,606,8198% Toyota/Scion152,433138,97610%1,806,1091,674,8028%Toyota178,044161,69510%2,045,1991,888,3618%Volkswagen48,69552,916–8%556,839553,2421% Audi13,63612,06713%141,048124,46913% Bentley32021251%2,5192,07821% Lamborghini*46445%5064766% Porsche3,9663,8653%39,07732,09122% VW division30,72736,728–16%373,689394,128–5%Volkswagen48,69552,916–8%556,839553,2421%Volvo Cars NA4,2336,141–31%56,34561,967–9%Volvo Cars NA4,2336,141–31%56,34561,967–9%Other***2532463%2,7832,7023%TOTAL1,243,8521,143,9819%14,223,37313,136,9638%

Sales of cars and light truck in the United States went up 9% overall to 1.24 million units delivered in November, selling at the fastest clip in almost seven years. The SAAR rose to 16.4 million units, exceeding analyst predictions of about 15.8 million vehicles. That’s the best seasonally adjusted annual rate since Feb. 2007, before the start of the global recession. November sales were the best since 2003 and close to the best November ever.

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  • Jkross22 Their bet to just buy an existing platform from GM rather than build it from the ground up seems like a smart move. Building an infrastructure for EVs at this point doesn't seem like a wise choice. Perhaps they'll slow walk the development hoping that the tides change over the next 5 years. They'll probably need a longer time horizon than that.
  • Lou_BC Hard pass
  • TheEndlessEnigma These cars were bought and hooned. This is a bomb waiting to go off in an owner's driveway.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Thankfully I don't have to deal with GDI issues in my Frontier. These cleaners should do well for me if I win.
  • Theflyersfan Serious answer time...Honda used to stand for excellence in auto engineering. Their first main claim to fame was the CVCC (we don't need a catalytic converter!) engine and it sent from there. Their suspensions, their VTEC engines, slick manual transmissions, even a stowing minivan seat, all theirs. But I think they've been coasting a bit lately. Yes, the Civic Type-R has a powerful small engine, but the Honda of old would have found a way to get more revs out of it and make it feel like an i-VTEC engine of old instead of any old turbo engine that can be found in a multitude of performance small cars. Their 1.5L turbo-4...well...have they ever figured out the oil dilution problems? Very un-Honda-like. Paint issues that still linger. Cheaper feeling interior trim. All things that fly in the face of what Honda once was. The only thing that they seem to have kept have been the sales staff that treat you with utter contempt for daring to walk into their inner sanctum and wanting a deal on something that isn't a bare-bones CR-V. So Honda, beat the rest of your Japanese and Korean rivals, and plug-in hybridize everything. If you want a relatively (in an engineering way) easy way to get ahead of the curve, raise the CAFE score, and have a major point to advertise, and be able to sell to those who can't plug in easily, sell them on something that will get, for example, 35% better mileage, plug in when you get a chance, and drives like a Honda. Bring back some of the engineering skills that Honda once stood for. And then start introducing a portfolio of EVs once people are more comfortable with the idea of plugging in. People seeing that they can easily use an EV for their daily errands with the gas engine never starting will eventually sell them on a future EV because that range anxiety will be lessened. The all EV leap is still a bridge too far, especially as recent sales numbers have shown. Baby steps. That's how you win people over.