Automakers Asks NHTSA to Remove Autonomous Hurdles

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has been pretty good about letting companies test autonomous vehicles on public roads. And yet pretty much every automotive manufacturer, ride sharing firm and tech giant still wants laxer rules. To a degree, it’s understandable. Take General Motors, for example. Back in 2017, GM sought exemptions from NHTSA to deploy fully automated vehicles without steering wheels or pedals, but that would have placed the car in clear violation of preexisting safety standards — as they were not in line with the General’s vision of what a self-driving car should be.

GM’s autonomous division recently said the self-driving Cruise AV it had been prepping for the end of this year will likely have to be delayed. While development issues assuredly played a role in stalling the car’s commercial deployment, it could never have launched as initially designed anyway.

Earlier this year, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) and NHTSA asked for input regarding the testing of automated vehicles to help decide if the “removal of unnecessary regulatory barriers” would be a prudent move. You can probably guess the feedback received from the automotive and tech industries.

The public comment period was designated to last until August 28th. According to Reuters, Waymo managed to get its statements in right at the buzzer.

“[The] NHTSA should move promptly to remove barriers while ensuring safety,” Waymo said in a letter posted on Thursday. “on the removal of unnecessary regulatory barriers to the safe introduction of automated driving systems.”

Among the barriers referenced by Waymo were seating configurations and the need for human operators. New seating templates would mean automakers can start converting interiors into mobile lounges while dumping flesh-and-blood drivers, opening up doors for automated taxi services and new distractions embedded into the dashboard of autonomous cars. Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of hard evidence to support human drivers being any worse than automated systems. There is, however, an abundance of industrial marketing materials that suggest they will be someday.

There’s also the oddly pervasive idea that autonomous vehicles will allow literally anyone to move into the driver’s seat. In fact, the National Federation of the Blind has openly supported the development of autonomous vehicles for a couple of years now. But questions remain as to how the visually impaired would effectively operate an AV. While voice commands would be an ideal interface, it would have to perform impeccably to work, as would the car’s navigational abilities.

We’ve also heard claims that mobility solutions would allow people without licenses (which would include the blind) and even children to take solo trips. But this opens up a bevy of new of questions. Can people with no driving experience be made responsible for a motor vehicle? What are the legal ramifications?

Nobody has satisfactory answers, yet Waymo suggested the above hurdles must be removed if vehicles without controls are to be deployed in a “timely” manner. Other firms were only a few millimeters away from being in lockstep. They want new rules as soon as possible.

From Reuters:

General Motors Co in its comments said “it is imperative that NHTSA continue to drive this critical dialogue with a sense of urgency so that the necessary regulatory evolution keeps pace with advancing technology.”

Lyft Inc and Honda Motor Co told the agency in separate comments that it could recognize self-driving cars as a separate vehicle class to address the rules written assuming humans would be behind the wheel.

Numerous automakers have been more realistic of late. Both Ford and GM claim that introductory AVs would be aimed at getting you near your intended destination before dropping you off (in the case of cabs) or forcing you to take over (in the case of personal transport). Other automakers, like Fiat Chrysler, have been more relaxed in their pursuit of the technology. The brunt of FCA’s autonomous commitments revolve around supplying tech companies with platforms they can use to develop their own systems — with its own AV projects playing more of a supporting role.

The NHTSA intends to write rules regarding seating configurations and manual controls in March 2020, hoping to address the safety of passengers facing the side or rear or self-driving cars. Still, Waymo said seating was not an important factor when it came to “the deployment or development” of autonomous vehicles.

We’re inclined to agree. Chair positions are small potatoes in the bigger picture. That’s why the FMCSA’s notice requesting comments focused on ten items that had nothing to do with seating orientations. It’s concerned with the following:

  • Whether federal safety regulations should require a human driver
  • Minimum medical qualifications for human operators
  • How commercial driver license endorsements come into play
  • Hours-of-service rules for commercial AVs
  • Distracted driving and monitoring systems
  • Safe driving and drug and alcohol testing procedures/laws
  • Inspection, repair and maintenance rules
  • Roadside inspections
  • Cybersecurity issues
  • Confidentiality of shared information

Addressing even one of those items thoroughly would be a daunting task. Yet the United States will have to contend with all of them if it’s to deploy autonomous vehicles en masse. Sadly, the people making these rules also seem woefully out of touch with the technology. One issue is that a large portion of the information they’re being fed comes directly from the companies that are developing it. But there’s also a lot of technical information that has to be parsed through to even have a basic understanding of how these systems function, what obstacles they have yet to overcome, and how the development process works.

[Image: Waymo]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Robbie Robbie on Sep 01, 2019

    Maybe start with long-haul autonomous trucks that leave from big parking lots outside cities. As soon as weather deteriorates, they are forced to stop. For the first and last mile through a more urban landscape, a human driver takes over.

  • Buickman Buickman on Sep 02, 2019

    get a horse!

  • Bd2 To sum up my comments and follow-up comments here backed by some data, perhaps Cadillac should look to the Genesis formula in order to secure a more competitive position in the market. Indeed, by using bespoke Rwd chassis, powertrains and interiors Genesis is selling neck and neck with Lexus while ATPs are 15 to 35% higher depending on the segment you are looking at. While Lexus can't sell Rwd sedans, Genesis is outpacing them 2.2 to 1.Genesis is an industry world changing success story, frankly Cadillac would be insane to not replicate it for themselves.
  • Carson D I rode my bike past a BMW iX M60 as it was being loaded with beach stuff the other day. It sounded like it was idling quite loudly, but it is an EV. I was surprised by the noise, because I thought it was a Fisker Ocean as I rode up to it, and I know that they're EVs. Has anyone here driven an iX M60? Is it normal for them to sound like real automobile while their owners are running the A/C in a parking space?
  • Carson D Cadillac has been dead for 40 years. Just make Cadillac the top trim level on the GMC Yukon and call it a day.
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  • Bd2 Mark my words : Lexus Deathwatch Part 1, the T24 From Hell!
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