Toyota Drove the New Supra Around Goodwood, Did We Learn Anything?

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

While the returning Toyota Supra should be big news, the endless parade of teasers without any real information has left everyone feeling burned out. We previously announced that the vehicle would debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this week. But Toyota later clarified that the car we would see wouldn’t be the production version and remain camouflaged, resulting in rage-induced nose bleeds at automotive-media outlets across the globe.

Our expectations couldn’t be lower but we still had to check and see if any new information could be gleaned from the event. We definitely got a better look at it but technical specifications remained elusive. We did learn a thing or two, though.

Seeing the Supra in its A90 camouflage still doesn’t give us a clear picture of what the production unit might look like. However watching it pivot on the track did give us some new angles. The car is curvier than pervious still images would have you believe and it seems to borrow more from the A80 than initially thought. Although, it is definitely not a throwback vehicle.

Toyota already confirmed the vehicle would use an inline-six, which we already knew since it’d be sharing it with BMW. But commentators noted its output figures, assumedly based on the specs given by the manufacturer. While still estimates, they claimed roughly 340 horsepower and a curb weight of around 3,300 lbs — Nissan 370Z territory.

Those numbers also matched unverified leaks from Toyota’s home office. Back in February, rumors emerged that the new Supra’s 3.0-liter straight-six would make 335 hp and the car would weigh 3,284 pounds.

The commentators noted “that is ordinary sports car stuff these days,” which we are inclined to agree with. It’s certainly not awful and it should result in an incredibly fun package, if Toyota’s suspension claims are to be believed. But it’s also not a major leap foreword over its predecessor.

[Images: Toyota]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Dukeisduke Dukeisduke on Jul 13, 2018

    Borrrrrrriiiiinnnggg. This is coolest thing to happen at Goodwood this year - a chase up the hill by an original Bullitt Mustang *and* an original Bullitt Charger. https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/07/13/goodwood-festival-of-speed-hosts-bullitt-chase-reunion/

  • PrincipalDan PrincipalDan on Jul 13, 2018

    Toyota with BMW engine! WHAT COULD GO WRONG?!?!?!

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    • Ernest Ernest on Jul 13, 2018

      @06M3S54B32 We're ignoring valvetronic failures, right? Correct comment would be "no one used to make a better inline 6 than BMW." Now they're about on their own, aren't they?

  • Dwford I don't think price is the real issue. Plenty of people buy $40-50k gas vehicles every year. It's the functionality. People are worried about range and the ability to easily and quickly recharge. Also, if you want to buy an EV these days, you are mostly limited to midsize 5 passenger crossovers. How about some body style variety??
  • SCE to AUX The nose went from terrible to weird.
  • Chris P Bacon I'm not a fan of either, but if I had to choose, it would be the RAV. It's built for the long run with a NA engine and an 8 speed transmission. The Honda with a turbo and CVT might still last as long, but maintenance is going to cost more to get to 200000 miles for sure. The Honda is built for the first owner to lease and give back in 36 months. The Toyota is built to own and pass down.
  • Dwford Ford's management change their plans like they change their underwear. Where were all the prototypes of the larger EVs that were supposed to come out next year? Or for the next gen EV truck? Nowhere to be seen. Now those vaporware models are on the back burner to pursue cheaper models. Yeah, ok.
  • Wjtinfwb My comment about "missing the mark" was directed at, of the mentioned cars, none created huge demand or excitement once they were introduced. All three had some cool aspects; Thunderbird was pretty good exterior, let down by the Lincoln LS dash and the fairly weak 3.9L V8 at launch. The Prowler was super cool and unique, only the little nerf bumpers spoiled the exterior and of course the V6 was a huge letdown. SSR had the beans, but in my opinion was spoiled by the tonneau cover over the bed. Remove the cover, finish the bed with some teak or walnut and I think it could have been more appealing. All three were targeting a very small market (expensive 2-seaters without a prestige badge) which probably contributed. The PT Cruiser succeeded in this space by being both more practical and cheap. Of the three, I'd still like to have a Thunderbird in my garage in a classic color like the silver/green metallic offered in the later years.
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