Piston Slap: Garbage In, Garbage Out!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Stefan writes:

Dear Sajeev,

I am the last person who would want to be even peripherally involved in you losing your job or impeding that great Lincoln rebuild. I am a loyal reader of TTAC and “slavishly” read your column.

My Subie is just touching 120,000 miles. It has been a really great, reliable ride and I fortunately have a good dealer and private mechanic for the routine issues that pop up.

I want to keep the car as long as possible. I do oil changes and the roughly 60,000 mile recommended scheduled service on time. The engine sounds good, has good (for a Subie) pick-up, averages 20 to 23 miles per gallon, and still has a tight body. I anticipate the need for new shocks at some point soon and a muffler/cat replacement.

I’ve read horror stories on Subaru engine issues and internet researching has not been definitive. Can you elaborate? I know you’ve done this many times before. What ought my ownership strategy be at this juncture? What might I expect in term of my auto transmission reliability?

I am not fond of the totally boring exchangeability of current grill “styling”, the blunt front ends dictated by European regs, the insane complications in radio usage, ridiculous, distracting computerization of the simplest driving acts with endemically poor quality et al. Thank God I’ve got my 1967 MGB with all it’s British “eccentricities” to keep me in touch with what driving is all about.

Your obvious question is why the Subie is automatic. The simple answer is I buy off lease or used.

Sajeev answers:

Stefan, sorry to throw you under the bus instead of sending you a clarification request via email

The problem is GIGO, and it’s not just a programming nerd problem. Making blanket generalizations on Subies (or anything else) are effective only to a point. Since you have a well-maintained Subie and are interested in continuing upkeep, know one thing:

You must always provide the year, model and (if applicable) the engine option of your Subaru if you wish to get a relevant answer from your research.

I can Internet Research up and down the litany of problems with Subaru engines (head gaskets, piston slap, etc.), but it’s meaningless as the manufacturer fixes problems as running changes occur and recalls/ TSBs come into play. There’s plenty of info about each motor if you plug in the character code into Google or the big name forums.

Without it? The armchair analyst or helpful concerned citizen cannot assist with any degree of relevancy. Go ahead and fix the exhaust if you have seen the problem (on a lift) for yourself. Get new shocks if the ride has deteriorated. (It has.) Don’t worry about the engine until fuel economy and power drop off significantly, or you hear anything else bad. Ditto the transmission, as 120,000 miles for a fluid servicing is a crap shoot as to the helpful/hurtful nature regarding life expectancy.

My advice is to do whatever your mechanics recommend whenever they put their trained eyes on the problem, as you trust them. And we’ll assume they won’t destroy a great working relationship just to upsell you on your next visit.

Because that could be your last visit, and neither party wants that.

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Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.


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  • Joe K Joe K on Oct 13, 2015

    2005 Outback Limited owner here. 2 years ago at 190,000 it blew the HG internally. The car is nice, black leather, auto, no rust, everything works and makes sense, so I put a rebuilt engine in it. I looked at new and I didnt like what I saw. Equivalent cars suv's cuv's hit the 30K range in price after taxes fees etc. I like my Outback for all the points the OP made. My only grumble is the stereo but I worked that out long ago. So I opted for a rebuilt engine and never looked back.

    • Gottacook Gottacook on Oct 13, 2015

      Likewise, I'm hoping to keep our Legacy and Foresters going even if an engine swap is eventually required. There simply are no present-day equivalents.

  • Cabriolet Cabriolet on Oct 13, 2015

    A Subaru with 120,000 miles and no repairs. Run as fast as you can to the closest exit. Advice from a former and never to buy again Subaru owner.

  • Alan Years ago Jack Baruth held a "competition" for a piece from the B&B on the oddest pickup story (or something like that). I think 5 people were awarded the prizes.I never received mine, something about being in Australia. If TTAC is global how do you offer prizes to those overseas or are we omitted on the sly from competing?In the end I lost significant respect for Baruth.
  • Alan My view is there are good vehicles from most manufacturers that are worth looking at second hand.I can tell you I don't recommend anything from the Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat/etc gene pool. Toyotas are overly expensive second hand for what they offer, but they seem to be reliable enough.I have a friend who swears by secondhand Subarus and so far he seems to not have had too many issue.As Lou stated many utes, pickups and real SUVs (4x4) seem quite good.
  • 28-Cars-Later So is there some kind of undiagnosed disease where every rando thinks their POS is actually valuable?83K miles Ok.new valve cover gasket.Eh, it happens with age. spark plugsOkay, we probably had to be kewl and put in aftermarket iridium plugs, because EVO.new catalytic converterUh, yeah that's bad at 80Kish. Auto tranny failing. From the ad: the SST fails in one of the following ways:Clutch slip has turned into; multiple codes being thrown, shifting a gear or 2 in manual mode (2-3 or 2-4), and limp mode.Codes include: P2733 P2809 P183D P1871Ok that's really bad. So between this and the cat it suggests to me someone jacked up the car real good hooning it, because EVO, and since its not a Toyota it doesn't respond well to hard abuse over time.$20,000, what? Pesos? Zimbabwe Dollars?Try $2,000 USD pal. You're fracked dude, park it in da hood and leave the keys in it.BONUS: Comment in the ad: GLWS but I highly doubt you get any action on this car what so ever at that price with the SST on its way out. That trans can be $10k + to repair.
  • 28-Cars-Later Actually Honda seems to have a brilliant mid to long term strategy which I can sum up in one word: tariffs.-BEV sales wane in the US, however they will sell in Europe (and sales will probably increase in Canada depending on how their government proceeds). -The EU Politburo and Canada concluded a trade treaty in 2017, and as of 2024 99% of all tariffs have been eliminated.-Trump in 2018 threatened a 25% tariff on European imported cars in the US and such rhetoric would likely come again should there be an actual election. -By building in Canada, product can still be sold in the US tariff free though USMCA/NAFTA II but it should allow Honda tariff free access to European markets.-However if the product were built in Marysville it could end up subject to tit-for-tat tariff depending on which junta is running the US in 2025. -Profitability on BEV has already been a variable to put it mildly, but to take on a 25% tariff to all of your product effectively shuts you out of that market.
  • Lou_BC Actuality a very reasonable question.
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