Piston Slap: Garbage In, Garbage Out!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Stefan writes:

Dear Sajeev,

I am the last person who would want to be even peripherally involved in you losing your job or impeding that great Lincoln rebuild. I am a loyal reader of TTAC and “slavishly” read your column.

My Subie is just touching 120,000 miles. It has been a really great, reliable ride and I fortunately have a good dealer and private mechanic for the routine issues that pop up.

I want to keep the car as long as possible. I do oil changes and the roughly 60,000 mile recommended scheduled service on time. The engine sounds good, has good (for a Subie) pick-up, averages 20 to 23 miles per gallon, and still has a tight body. I anticipate the need for new shocks at some point soon and a muffler/cat replacement.

I’ve read horror stories on Subaru engine issues and internet researching has not been definitive. Can you elaborate? I know you’ve done this many times before. What ought my ownership strategy be at this juncture? What might I expect in term of my auto transmission reliability?

I am not fond of the totally boring exchangeability of current grill “styling”, the blunt front ends dictated by European regs, the insane complications in radio usage, ridiculous, distracting computerization of the simplest driving acts with endemically poor quality et al. Thank God I’ve got my 1967 MGB with all it’s British “eccentricities” to keep me in touch with what driving is all about.

Your obvious question is why the Subie is automatic. The simple answer is I buy off lease or used.

Sajeev answers:

Stefan, sorry to throw you under the bus instead of sending you a clarification request via email

The problem is GIGO, and it’s not just a programming nerd problem. Making blanket generalizations on Subies (or anything else) are effective only to a point. Since you have a well-maintained Subie and are interested in continuing upkeep, know one thing:

You must always provide the year, model and (if applicable) the engine option of your Subaru if you wish to get a relevant answer from your research.

I can Internet Research up and down the litany of problems with Subaru engines (head gaskets, piston slap, etc.), but it’s meaningless as the manufacturer fixes problems as running changes occur and recalls/ TSBs come into play. There’s plenty of info about each motor if you plug in the character code into Google or the big name forums.

Without it? The armchair analyst or helpful concerned citizen cannot assist with any degree of relevancy. Go ahead and fix the exhaust if you have seen the problem (on a lift) for yourself. Get new shocks if the ride has deteriorated. (It has.) Don’t worry about the engine until fuel economy and power drop off significantly, or you hear anything else bad. Ditto the transmission, as 120,000 miles for a fluid servicing is a crap shoot as to the helpful/hurtful nature regarding life expectancy.

My advice is to do whatever your mechanics recommend whenever they put their trained eyes on the problem, as you trust them. And we’ll assume they won’t destroy a great working relationship just to upsell you on your next visit.

Because that could be your last visit, and neither party wants that.

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Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.


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  • Joe K Joe K on Oct 13, 2015

    2005 Outback Limited owner here. 2 years ago at 190,000 it blew the HG internally. The car is nice, black leather, auto, no rust, everything works and makes sense, so I put a rebuilt engine in it. I looked at new and I didnt like what I saw. Equivalent cars suv's cuv's hit the 30K range in price after taxes fees etc. I like my Outback for all the points the OP made. My only grumble is the stereo but I worked that out long ago. So I opted for a rebuilt engine and never looked back.

    • Gottacook Gottacook on Oct 13, 2015

      Likewise, I'm hoping to keep our Legacy and Foresters going even if an engine swap is eventually required. There simply are no present-day equivalents.

  • Cabriolet Cabriolet on Oct 13, 2015

    A Subaru with 120,000 miles and no repairs. Run as fast as you can to the closest exit. Advice from a former and never to buy again Subaru owner.

  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
  • Mebgardner I test drove a 2023 2.5 Rav4 last year. I passed on it because it was a very noisy interior, and handled poorly on uneven pavement (filled potholes), which Tucson has many. Very little acoustic padding mean you talk loudly above 55 mph. The forums were also talking about how the roof leaks from not properly sealed roof rack holes, and door windows leaking into the lower door interior. I did not stick around to find out if all that was true. No talk about engine troubles though, this is new info to me.
  • Dave Holzman '08 Civic (stick) that I bought used 1/31/12 with 35k on the clock. Now at 159k.It runs as nicely as it did when I bought it. I love the feel of the car. The most expensive replacement was the AC compressor, I think, but something to do with the AC that went at 80k and cost $1300 to replace. It's had more stuff replaced than I expected, but not enough to make me want to ditch a car that I truly enjoy driving.
  • ToolGuy Let's review: I am a poor unsuccessful loser. Any car company which introduced an EV which I could afford would earn my contempt. Of course I would buy it, but I wouldn't respect them. 😉
  • ToolGuy Correct answer is the one that isn't a Honda.
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