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"It Has Just One Small Rust Spot:" The Old Car Decoder

J Sutherland
by J Sutherland

You have decided to jump headfirst into the old car game, and you are anxious to pull the trigger on the process by buying a four-wheeled blast from the past. Ahead lays a very cruel path of pain and disappointment if you make a bad decision.

The initial purchase price may be well within the price range of most car guys, thus many of them may begin to get buck fever about the vehicle. This is the exact point where emotion might blind side common sense, and where a car guy finds himself to be the proud owner of a four-wheeled nightmarish money pit.

The first step is to truly understand the consequences of an old car purchase.

You are buying a vehicle that has done its time on the road, it may now simply deserve a dignified send-off before it faces the crusher.

However, its current owner may see the old relic in a completely different light. This is the time of year when guys start to believe that their rusty pile of junk is worth its weight in platinum, because the “very same car” went for huge bucks at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Scottsdale.

That “very same car” was a very rare and mint low production car from the same make and year. It was formerly owned by Elvis. The seller with the rusted-out factory cousin will connect the two vehicles like four-wheeled Siamese twins, and price it accordingly,

Here is an actual interpretation of the sales pitch language for old cars:

“One small rust spot” means a car that is 95% rust, and the owner is pitching a minor touch up on the paint scheme.

“Needs some work” means that the old war pony is going to need a crack team of bodymen, fabricators, mechanics, a priest and a flat out miracle to save the vehicle.

“Runs” means the guy is running gas through a rubber line from an elevated glass bottle to bypass a rusted-out gas tank and non-pumping fuel pump.

“Original interior” means that the car has become a self-governing rodent metropolis united in an ungodly stench and divided only by the front and back seat.

“Numbers matching” usually indicates a stuck engine or blown transmission.

“Good rubber” means that three of the four flats on the car will probably take air.

“Second Owner” is part of the new math program in which second means every number after five.

“Handyman’s special” is rust with a stuck engine. It has five chrome trim pieces that may be salvageable before it gets squashed in a final act of mercy.

“Slight miss in motor” means at least two cylinders are completely and expensively dead.

“Slight noise in rear end” means a complete differential re-build.

“Everything works” is code that indicates almost half of everything works on the vehicle.

“Slight overheating problem” is a cracked block.

“Brakes work” means a complete brake overhaul.

“Drive anywhere” means bring a trailer.

“Good glass” means that the windshield crack runs slightly below the driver’s line of vision.

“Always stored inside” means mostly stored outside.

“Never smoked in” means never smoked in since it was parked in a pasture 30 years ago.

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J Sutherland
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  • Jim Sutherland Jim Sutherland on Jun 26, 2013

    I have seen their show. I will concede that their finished products look like rush jobs and they cast few illusions about the quality of the finished product as a low end auction-ready commodity.

  • Lorenzo Lorenzo on Jun 26, 2013

    I met a guy driving a 1966 Impala SS. He said the body was straight but the chassis and drive train were gone when he bought it, and he had the body mounted on a 2010 Silverado chassis - the wheelbase, track and hard points were that close. He ventured the opinion that GM has been making the '65-'71 119" wheelbase chassis all along, using it for Chevy and GMC trucks. That must be the best of both worlds, a classic body on modern underpinnings.

  • Rochester After years of self-driving being in the news, I still don't understand the psychology behind it. Not only don't I want this, but I find the idea absurd.
  • Douglas This timeframe of Mercedes has the self-disintegrating engine wiring harness. Not just the W124, but all of them from the early 90's. Only way to properly fix it is to replace it, which I understand to be difficult to find a new one/do it/pay for. Maybe others have actual experience with doing so and can give better hope. On top of that, it's a NH car with "a little bit of rust", which means to about anyone else in the USA it is probably the rustiest W124 they have ever seen. This is probably a $3000 car on a good day.
  • Formula m How many Hyundai and Kia’s do not have the original engine block it left the factory with 10yrs prior?
  • 1995 SC I will say that year 29 has been a little spendy on my car (Motor Mounts, Injectors and a Supercharger Service since it had to come off for the injectors, ABS Pump and the tool to cycle the valves to bleed the system, Front Calipers, rear pinion seal, transmission service with a new pan that has a drain, a gaggle of capacitors to fix the ride control module and a replacement amplifier for the stereo. Still needs an exhaust manifold gasket. The front end got serviced in year 28. On the plus side blank cassettes are increasingly easy to find so I have a solid collection of 90 minute playlists.
  • MaintenanceCosts My own experiences with, well, maintenance costs:Chevy Bolt, ownership from new to 4.5 years, ~$400*Toyota Highlander Hybrid, ownership from 3.5 to 8 years, ~$2400BMW 335i Convertible, ownership from 11.5 to 13 years, ~$1200Acura Legend, ownership from 20 to 29 years, ~$11,500***Includes a new 12V battery and a set of wiper blades. In fairness, bigger bills for coolant and tire replacement are coming in year 5.**Includes replacement of all rubber parts, rebuild of entire suspension and steering system, and conversion of car to OEM 16" wheel set, among other things
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