Fire Escape: Ford Says To Stop Driving 2013 Escapes Immediately, We'll Come And Pick Them Up

All manufacturers have recalls, new or significantly redesigned models are the most common culprits for it, and everyone is issuing more these days in the wake of Toyota's SUA problems. The fact that Honda issued a recall for over 10x the number of their new CR-V on the same day seems to be getting glossed over by a lot of people here. A recall doesn't mean a car is unreliable, it just means that the manufacturer noticed a problem after the vehicle has been released and is offering to fix it for free.

@NulloModo The Honda recall is for an unlikely problem. In my opinion, the Honda recall was probabally timed by the Obama administration as a cover for the real recall, "escapes on fire". And, we all know Toyota and Honda will be recalled for a problem with stickers, while exploding Mustang transmissions or defrosters that are unavailable because of a MyFord reboot are overlooked. Fires is a basic engineering problem. A slight defect in that gas line should not result in a fire. Bad engineering. A serious problem in a car released the public suggests many more problems lurk in that vehicle. Ford deserves the poor grade in reliability by Consumer Reports and JD Powers. Clearly, there are people out there that will buy anything as long as it has a Detroit brand tag on it. Personally, in my life on the left and right coasts, I know no one who has bought or is planning to buy a new Ford. They must be selling a heck of a lot of those to the union and Obama faithfull in the midwest. The only new Fords I see are usually rentals. Even Obama lovers I know avoid all Detroit.

@NulloModo I find one more item about your post that bothers me. The morality. Where is the apology from Ford? They shipped a family vehicle that placed people in danger. Imagine the young mother who leaves the vehicle running for a few seconds while she steps in the house. Next we have a high pressured gasoline fire that rapidly burns down the vehicle with here kids inside. Where is the apology? There is none. Lets attach Honda.

wait...what? I feel like I am watching a crowd go mad and begin attacking without anything more than emotion. Do you read auto sights other than TTAC? Do you see the recalls that are announced every day? Let me help you.... Volkswagen is recalling 46 model-year 2012 versions of the Beetle Honda issued two voluntary recalls to address faulty front door latches and handles. Seems the door were oprning without any help! Porsche is recalling 270 model-year 2011-12 versions of the Porsche Panamera Turbo, 2012 Panamera Turbo S and 2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo due to a potential defect with the engine Nissan is recalling 11,076 model-year 2012 versions of the Juke compact hatchback due to problems with the rear seatback THIS week alone! And I am not sure if there were even more. So stop with this mob mentality. It belittles what I thought was a thoughtful group. What ever happened to the B&B?

@TrailerTrash The B&B? There were never any.

@TrailerTrash "What ever happened to the B&B?" I'm beginning to wonder the same thing. Lots of new names and avatars in the last six months, and that's very welcome, but where lots of the older ones? Did they give up, get tired of the site or went elsewhere (where else can you go that's anywhere as good as TTAC)? I agree, calm down and be objective and don't make rash comments if you don't know what you're talking about or before more facts are known. Humor, however, is always welcome! EDIT: Geozinger, welcome! Good to see you on here!

@TrailerTrash I've noticed what seems to be an increase in violations of the commenting policy, the comments section is getting a little wild. I imagine as the site is growing and our authors are trying to look for original content that it's beginning to get hard to police the site. At least I hope that's the case, the alternative is that they don't care which isn't the impression I've gotten in the past. I've seen very interesting questions posed to authors that went unanswered so it's likely that there's not time to check every post. There have been insults flying though and while not directed in name at a particular forum member they are obviously written to draw a response from someone. Calling a member's girlfriend an idiot, calling people who buy a particular make of car dense knowing other forum members who drive said makes, insulting people from a particular region knowing there are people from that region reading... I imagine the people that are looking for thoughtful discussion are still reading but not commenting as much.

@TrailerTrash Sadly, the B&B are swimming against the tide of the unwashed mob. Too many on here are showing their bias without any facts or evidence to support their spouting off. Wanna take cheap shots at companies, cars, and people? Then feel free to fire away without consequences for your actions. The anonymity of the 'net promotes false courage in far too many people. I belong to a restricted Facebook group. The restriction is based on your rank in the Navy, that's all. If someone pisses you off, you trade phone numbers. Problem solved.

@TrailerTrash Well, in terms of what we claimed the B&B to be, they never existed. I always hoped that term was said in jest, because the comment-ship on this forum has always been average at best, and is slowly degenerating into brand-fanboy and (especially) brand-anti-fanboy-hatred. A lot of the more measured commentators that TrailerTrash is referring to have pulled back (for whatever reason, most likely exhaustion from the constantly strident comments) to be replaced by the Volts on Fire's and CJinSD's - easily predictable, strident, comments centered around belittling certain cars or nationalities of cars. I still love this site for the articles. I'm slowly getting to the point where I'm just going to pass on reading the follow-up comments. They're getting way too predictable, and way too uninformative. Unfortunately, this is not something limited to TTAC. If you really want to see the probable future of this site, go hit the MotoGP section on Crash.net. Visualize Volts on Fire only louder and (if possible) more obnoxious. If there's a match to GM hatred, it's Valentino Rossi or Casey Stoner hatred. And the only way to stop that kind of slide is site-administrator controlled censorship (in extreme cases). Which works in some cases (motogpmatters.com).