Auction Day: Funny Money Edition

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

Would you pay over $3000 for a 20 year old car? How about if it was a base 1991 Chevrolet Caprice in faded battleship grey with only 37,000 miles? As much as I love driving a big boat, owning an ancient mariner like this Caprice would have been no picnic. By the time you end up replacing all the worn items and catch up on the maintenance issues, you would be looking at nearly $4,000. It wasn’t a great deal. But with 95 dealers all looking at the same vehicle crossing the block, I got to see a lot worse.


A base 2000 Toyota ECHO with 112k went for over $4000 when you throw in the auction fee. Keep in mind we’re talking about a a ‘base’ model which means no power anything and an interior inspired by the Japanese version of Tonka. The dealer will likely try to get $1000 down and around $60 to $70 a week in payments. In today’s market that’s not bad. But waiting over a year to break even and risking non-payment, accidents and neglect is one hell of a risk.

Then there were the odometer issues. A 2004 Toyota Camry LE sounds like a good deal at $4700. Throw in 245,000 and a near $200 auction fee and you’re looking at a $5000 car wholesale by the time the vehicle is transported to the lot.

I’m willing to bet that the Camry is sent somewhere overseas. Toyota’s go for very stiff premiums in the Middle East and much of West Africa and one that is cosmetically nice will go for a higher value than one that has been hammered back to shape.

I can see this ‘American spec’ one easily following in those footsteps with a ‘revised’ odometer cluster that reflects it’s low wear. Also there was a 2009 Camry LE with 127k that went for $9900. Neither one of these Camrys had moonroofs or other preium options that would command these prices. Other than their nameplate, there was nothing that would have made a sane buyer bid these prices at an auction.

The 2002 Buick Regal that sold for $4600 was more of a mystery than the Camrys. Cloth interior. No roof. No premium sound or upscale options. Has the market completely lost it’s mind? The fact that it had a bit over 85k may have helped it’s cause. But geeze! This car would have sold for just $2800 a couple of years ago. I would be scared to finance it.

I did buy two low-end vehicles today. A 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with leather, 1 owner, 130k, I bought for $1350. Then there was a 1997 Chevy Lumina, garage kept, 159k that went for $1050. Both of them were decent buys. But not nearly the shangri-la of a few years back when I could find good five year old vehicles for less than $5000. Today that $5,000 vehicle will be twice as old and half as good.

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  • MrDot MrDot on Jun 28, 2011

    The price of the ECHO doesn't surprise me. People are poorer these days and the banks don'e lend like they used to, but the basic need for transportation in this country doesn't change. If you're desperate to buy a beater to work your three crappy jobs (or look for a nonexistent crappy job), you're going to default to established reliability, and a used Toyota is where it's at in that department.

  • Volt 230 Volt 230 on Jun 28, 2011

    I think the market is anticipating that the economy is gonna get worse and new car sales will plummet so used car prices will keep on going up, especially economy, reliable cars like Toyotas and Hondas.

  • Dr.Nick What about Infiniti? Some of those cars might be interesting, whereas not much at Nissan interest me other than the Z which is probably big bucks.
  • Dave Holzman My '08 Civic (stick, 159k on the clock) is my favorite car that I've ever owned. If I had to choose between the current Civic and Corolla, I'd test drive 'em (with stick), and see how they felt. But I'd be approaching this choice partial to the Civic. I would not want any sort of automatic transmission, or the turbo engine.
  • Merc190 I would say Civic Si all the way if it still revved to 8300 rpm with no turbo. But nowadays I would pick the Corolla because I think they have a more clear idea on their respective models identity and mission. I also believe Toyota has a higher standard for quality.
  • Dave Holzman I think we're mixing up a few things here. I won't swear to it, but I'd be damned surprised if they were putting fire retardant in the seats of any cars from the '50s, or even the '60s. I can't quite conjure up the new car smell of the '57 Chevy my parents bought on October 17th of that year... but I could do so--vividly--until the last five years or so. I loved that scent, and when I smelled it, I could see the snow on Hollis Street in Cambridge Mass, as one or the other parent got ready to drive me to nursery school, and I could remember staring up at the sky on Christmas Eve, 1957, wondering if I might see Santa Claus flying overhead in his sleigh. No, I don't think the fire retardant on the foam in the seats of 21st (and maybe late 20th) century cars has anything to do with new car smell. (That doesn't mean new car small lacked toxicity--it probably had some.)
  • ToolGuy Is this a website or a podcast with homework? You want me to answer the QOTD before I listen to the podcast? Last time I worked on one of our vehicles (2010 RAV4 2.5L L4) was this past week -- replaced the right front passenger window regulator (only problem turned out to be two loose screws, but went ahead and installed the new part), replaced a bulb in the dash, finally ordered new upper dash finishers (non-OEM) because I cracked one of them ~2 years ago.Looked at the mileage (157K) and scratched my head and proactively ordered plugs, coils, PCV valve, air filter and a spare oil filter, plus a new oil filter housing (for the weirdo cartridge-type filter). Those might go in tomorrow. Is this interesting to you? It ain't that interesting to me. 😉The more intriguing part to me, is I have noticed some 'blowby' (but is it) when the oil filler cap is removed which I don't think was there before. But of course I'm old and forgetful. Is it worth doing a compression test? Leakdown test? Perhaps if a guy were already replacing the plugs...
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