Hyundai and Kia. Have You Met Each Other Before?

Cammy Corrigan
by Cammy Corrigan

When Renault and Nissan signed an agreement to form an alliance, few expected it to work. In fact, according to the book “Shift” (or was it “Turn Around”?), Bob Lutz was quoted as saying that Renault would be better off taking the money they spent on the Nissan stake, putting it on a ship, sailing it into the middle of the ocean and sinking it. Another accurate prediction from the One of Maximum Bullsh*t. The reason that the Renault-Nissan has worked so well so far is, according to Carlos Ghosn, communication. Without communication, how can you expect your partner to understand you? Sounds simple, right? Not to Hyundai and Kia.

While checking on the local Alabama news, I came across this article by the Montgomery Advertiser. Alabama is home to a Hyundai plant. The article details the handover of Santa Fe production from Hyundai’s plant in Alabama to Kia’s one in Georgia. The plants are less than 100 miles apart and they already supply each other with engines and (soon) transmissions, so you’d expect this transfer of production to be a piece of Alabama Mud Cake? Not really.

When Kia announced it would be making the Kia Sorento, a CUV which shared the same platform as the Santa Fe and looked very similar to each other, it pretty much put it beyond reasonable doubt that production of the Santa Fe would move to Georgia. Kia drafted up a four-paragraph press release about the plans. A copy went to Robert Burns, a spokesperson for Hyundai Motor Manufacturing. Then the communications problems started.

The press release was embargoed until 8am on a Tuesday. Corrine Hodges, a spokesperson for the Kia plant in Georgia, refused to talk about the press release and wouldn’t even acknowledge the press release’s existence. This sounds like normal behavior for a PR person, until you realize that Ms Hodges was acting like this AFTER the embargo had expired. Why was she denying a press release after it was OK to publish?

On the same day, Mr Burns confirmed the press release and the contents, but still wouldn’t release it until there was no confusion over the matter. Then the Montgomery Advertiser got involved.

The Montgomery Advertiser got ready to publish the information on the press release and it not being issued, just yet, on the internet. Mr Burns had agreed to be a named source in the story…right up until the story was about to be published. Before the story went live, the Montgomery Advertiser received a phone call from Mr Burns stating that he didn’t want to be considered the named source of the story. Two hours later, Mr Burns phoned back allowing the story to be published as he got permission from “higher-ups” to release the story. But he still didn’t make public the press release from Kia.

The article then states that “Hodges sent the release, clearly marked with an embargo date and time, to Burns, but didn’t call him back to recall the whole thing. She, or someone at Kia, shared the release with others in Montgomery and likely elsewhere, but didn’t let them know to hold it.” Sounds like a bit of a clusterNSFW ? Well, there may be a reason behind this.

It seems that in the US operations of Hyundai and Kia, neither plant share any bosses. They’re two independent entities. Kia doesn’t report to Hyundai and vice versa. You have to go all the way to South Korea, before a merging in management happens. Now, I don’t wish to illogically extrapolate from this one incident, but could this lack of communication have ramifications further down the line? I mean Old GM’s brands didn’t really communicate with each other and an aloof management at Toyota brought about its current problems. Whereas at Ford, Alan Mulally got departments talking and communicating with each other. Which allows them to work together better. I’m sure Hyundai and Kia will address this problem. Unless they speak some Korean dialects that are mutually unintelligible.

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  • Mr Carpenter Mr Carpenter on Sep 07, 2010

    Hyundai executives are pretty smart. Their smartest future move, would be to take a huge boatload of money, buy the remaining 60% of Kia, morph it into Hyundai, and kill the Kia brand off entirely.

  • Niky Niky on Sep 07, 2010

    Youth and sport brand... I always thought that that was what Mazda was compared to Ford. With their platform sharing three-way with Volvo, Ford and Mazda both got excellent cars. Mazda made them sporty, Ford made them classy, they both sold decently. Mazda isn't doing so well right now... but then, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Maybe the "youthful and sporty" tag fits Kia... they used to sell rebadged Mazdas and cars with Mazda engines (which is likely why the old Sportage sucked so badly...). Though that doesn't explain Hyundai, which sold rebadged Mitsubishis... which were even worse... I agree with don1967, the delineation between the brands is still developing. Give Hyundai a few more years to move upmarket and the separation will be clearer. But I have a strange feeling that Kia's taking volume from Hyundai may be less about the lack of definition and more about Hyundai moving too far upmarket too quickly...

  • MrIcky 2014 Challenger- 97k miles, on 4th set of regular tires and 2nd set of winter tires. 7qts of synthetic every 5k miles. Diff and manual transmission fluid every 30k. aFe dry filter cone wastefully changed yearly but it feels good. umm. cabin filters every so often? Still has original battery. At 100k, it's tune up time, coolant, and I'll have them change the belts and radiator hoses. I have no idea what that totals up to. Doesn't feel excessive.2022 Jeep Gladiator - 15k miles. No maintenance costs yet, going in for my 3rd oil change in next week or so. All my other costs have been optional, so not really maintenance
  • Jalop1991 I always thought the Vinfast name was strange; it should be a used car search site or something.
  • Theflyersfan Here's the link to the VinFast release: https://vingroup.net/en/news/detail/3080/vinfast-officially-signs-agreements-with-12-new-dealers-in-the-usI was looking to see where they are setting up in Kentucky...Bowling Green? Interesting... Surprised it wasn't Louisville or Northern Kentucky. When Tesla opened up the Louisville dealer around 2019 (I believe), sales here exploded and they popped up in a lot of neighborhoods. People had to go to Indy or Cincinnati/Blue Ash to get one. If they manage to salvage their reputation after that quality disaster-filled intro a few months back, they might have a chance. But are people going to be willing to spend over $45,000 for an unknown Vietnamese brand with a puny dealer/service network? And their press photo - oh look, more white generic looking CUVs. Good luck guys. Your launch is going to have to be Lexus in 1989/1990 perfect. Otherwise, let me Google "History of Yugo in the United States" as a reference point.
  • Schen72 2022 Toyota Sienna, 25k miles[list][*]new 12V battery, covered by warranty[/*][*]new tires @ 24k miles[/*][*]oil change every 10k miles[/*][*]tire rotation every 5k miles[/*][/list]2022 Tesla Model Y, 16k miles[list][*]nothing, still on original tires[/*][/list]
  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh Elon hates bad press (hence TWITTER circus) So the press jumping up and down screaming ''musk fails cheap EV'' is likely ego-driving this response as per normal ..not to side with tesla or musk but canceling the 25k EV was a good move, selling a EV for barely above cost is a terrible idea in a market where it seems EV saturation is hitting peak
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