Piston Slap: I Love The 80's. Or Not.

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

T.W. writes:

Hi Sajeev,

Is it nuts to buy an original, low mileage ‘88 Mazda 323GTX that has not been rallied to death, even if I don’t need another car and have no place to park it?

As you probably know these cars are usually spoken about with a hushed reverence from the rally car crowd, they’re quite rare, and I’ve wanted one for years. It’s over 20 years old so it will need paint and other assorted repairs, and parts are getting scarce as well, but it may be worth it.

I thinking more of a long term investment while understanding it’ll never have a return like a 69 Super Bee, GTO, or what have you.

Sajeev Answers:

I grew up with cars of this era, so I absolutely love the 323 GTX on principle alone. But don’t talk about investments and cars in the same sentence, that’s a terrible idea unless you sport a fatter wallet and higher tastes: so slap yourself on the wrist for that. Damn near any car from the 1980s is a terrible investment for years to come, but you got far bigger problems here.

An investment-grade (so to speak) car needs a fully enclosed garage. Original tires (if equipped) are but one thing that builds up a car’s value if they are in good shape, and that’s not gonna happen sitting outside. More to the point, if you have “no place to park it” then you have no business looking at a clean 323 GTX.

It’s one thing to erode the value of a GTO, Talbot-Lago, etc with outside storage. Those rides always have a buyer ready to capitalize on your mistake. But a Mazda 323 GTX?

Not so much. Let the quality slip due to outdoor storage or a financial bind (or anything else personally unpleasant) puts the car at risk of being sold to someone with less-than-archival intentions. And three owners from now, it might be in the scrapper. Or in a 24 Hours of LeMons race: I saw one particularly spectacular Taurus SHO meet that fate after its previous owner sold it to the LeMons racers for pennies on the dollar. The (supposed) aftermarket differential alone was worth as much as the car’s asking price.

Take a page from my book; do the car a favor and admire from a distance. Wannabe classics like the 323 GTX need a more entrenched collector to take advantage of Mazda’s future collectability potential.

(Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com)

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  • Newcarscostalot Newcarscostalot on Apr 27, 2010

    If anyone is interseted, I know where there is a 1985 (I think) Mazda 626 LX 4dr Hatch. 5spd 4cyl. Needs a timing belt/tune-up/Batt. It has the original wheels and stereo! All for only a hundred bucks! I also know where there is an early 90's Buick Roadmaster with the supercharged V8 for 800 bucks. The buick would be nice to own, but the Mazda would get better mileage, I'm sure.

  • Newcarscostalot Newcarscostalot on Apr 27, 2010

    I checked your Facebook page, and we are not close. I live in WA State and you in South Carolina. Just wanted to let ya know. Sorry!

  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
  • Lou_BC "That’s expensive for a midsize pickup" All of the "offroad" midsize trucks fall in that 65k USD range. The ZR2 is probably the cheapest ( without Bison option).
  • Lou_BC There are a few in my town. They come out on sunny days. I'd rather spend $29k on a square body Chevy
  • Lou_BC I had a 2010 Ford F150 and 2010 Toyota Sienna. The F150 went through 3 sets of brakes and Sienna 2 sets. Similar mileage and 10 year span.4 sets tires on F150. Truck needed a set of rear shocks and front axle seals. The solenoid in the T-case was replaced under warranty. I replaced a "blend door motor" on heater. Sienna needed a water pump and heater blower both on warranty. One TSB then recall on spare tire cable. Has a limp mode due to an engine sensor failure. At 11 years old I had to replace clutch pack in rear diff F150. My ZR2 diesel at 55,000 km. Needs new tires. Duratrac's worn and chewed up. Needed front end alignment (1st time ever on any truck I've owned).Rear brakes worn out. Left pads were to metal. Chevy rear brakes don't like offroad. Weird "inside out" dents in a few spots rear fenders. Typically GM can't really build an offroad truck issue. They won't warranty. Has fender-well liners. Tore off one rear shock protector. Was cheaper to order from GM warehouse through parts supplier than through Chevy dealer. Lots of squeaks and rattles. Infotainment has crashed a few times. Seat heater modual was on recall. One of those post sale retrofit.Local dealer is horrific. If my son can't service or repair it, I'll drive 120 km to the next town. 1st and last Chevy. Love the drivetrain and suspension. Fit and finish mediocre. Dealer sucks.
  • MaintenanceCosts You expect everything on Amazon and eBay to be fake, but it's a shame to see fake stuff on Summit Racing. Glad they pulled it.
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