Camaro5: Camaro Customer's Pre-Delivery Checklist

July 17th, 2009 10:42 PM

New GM starts . . . when, exactly? [Thanks to TTAC Fan for the link. Blog post courtesy camaro5.com]

Can we get a master list going of all the things people found wrong with the car that QA missed? Let’s keep the list down to just the facts. One of the more common issues found is loose bolts that hold back some type of fluid (ex: oil). I’ll try and go through the posts and edit this post adding everyone’s item making a master list people can print out to take with them and have checked out before they take the ride home. Should help everyone and I hope everyone can chime in here. Especially those that have their ride already and experience problems. Also, pls correct me if I have any mistakes in the list. Thanks.

Also note: This list is mainly a checklist for things wrong that a dealer can immediately fix. A broke transmission or bad driveshaft from dropping the hammer on this beast is something that they won’t know until it actually happens. Thank you for submitting all your issues.

(Print this Excel or Word document so they have a checklist and the mechanic signs off on it.)

The list:

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001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan, tranny fluid)

002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to be loose keeping the trunk from locking properly)

003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launch control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillars Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and dash meet popping open.

004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts)

005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing a short circuit.

006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimmer then the other).

007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door). As well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips.

008. Loose Rocker Panel “Chevrolet” causing it to peel off.

009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing.

010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective.

011. Bad radiator (leaks).

012. Hood release/latch issues (won’t unhook to open the hood).

013. Gap at base of ONStar Antenna.

014. Battery cable routing near the starter has been done.

015. Digital Speedometer is off. Also keeps going on and off.

016. Bottom pulley shakes and needs replacement per dealer.

017. Broken tranny.

018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car.

019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 of them).

020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly.

021. Bumper rubs with body

022. Trunk opens with switch and remote

023. Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color

023. Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door

024. Doors gaps /alignment

025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes

026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt.

027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty material

028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likely blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the car instead of beneath it

029. Clunking noise in changing gears

030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut key

031. USB drive and aux port works

032. Squeaky Breaks

033. GFX installed correctly

034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in bad condition/damaged)

035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedure

036. Check the locking mechanism of both doors

037. Scraping sound for a second when backing up

038. SS emblem on trunk is loose

039. Loose interior windshield trim loose

040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double sided tape

041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dark colored groove

042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn’t retract properly (just hangs)

043. Scratches in seats

044. Oil cooler leaking

045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side door is still locked, while

the locking knob on the door is in the “up” position

046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings)

047. Missing paint around the headlights

048. Bleed screw on clutch slave cylinder loose

049. Stickers on rockers peeling

050. Scratches on window pillars

051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centered properly (more to one side then the other)

052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems to sag below the dash interior

053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) only works when its toggled over to the passenger side

054. Door sill decals peeling up

055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door

056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when dropping the clutch

057. Tach Needle Sticking

058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard, slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)

059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5 seconds after engine starts

060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)

061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off

062. Uneven Dash (driver’s side dash is lower then passenger’s side)

063. Passenger/Driver’s side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in place)

064. Key won’t stay in folded position

065. Faulty Tail lights.

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Joeaverage on Jul 25, 2009
Johnny Canada: What the hell did these customers think they were buying? It’s a car from a bankrupt automaker screwed together by bitter CAW employees, funded by tax payer dollars. Sounds like a Soviet-era car factory doesn't it?

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Joeaverage on Jul 25, 2009
menno : Samuel said “It would be interesting to see a defect list for a new car from Honda or Toyota, just for sake of comparison…” 2002 Hyundai Sonata delivered new: No defects on delivery... Okay - I can play too. 1999 Honda CR-V EX 5 speed. Delivered to us new with two defects. The left rear wheel needed the camber adjusted, Visually out of whack. Rear hatch strut leaking oil. Currently has 180,000 miles on it. I have replaced the front brake pads replaced twice, rotors once, radiator leaked so I replaced that, .5 lb of Freon along the way, tires about every 60K miles. Never had the manufacturer's recall on the ignition switch performed. In fact after the initial purchase fixes listed above it has never been touched by anyone but me. Not even for an alignment which remains perfect. Yes the tire store has rotated the tires and installed new tires for me. Paint is still good, interior is still perfect. Original muffler, struts, axles, bearings, etc. Some scratches and dings from carelessness. Finishing a timing belt replacement this morn. Have replaced the timing belt, cam seals, crank seals and drive belts just in case. Ought to replace the water pump b/c it would be a real hassle if it gave up but so far so good. This is the third timing belt. This is about the fifth Honda product we've owned - cars, motorcycles and a generator. I would buy their products again without reservations.

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DenverMike When was it ever a mystery? The Fairmont maybe, but only the 4-door "Futura" trim, that was distinctively upscale. The Citation and Volare didn't have competing trims, nor was there a base stripper Maxima at the time, if ever, crank windows, vinyl seats, 2-doors, etc. So it wasn't a "massacre", not even in spirit, just different market segments. It could be that the Maxima was intended to compete with those, but everything coming from Japan at the time had to take it up a notch, if not two.Thanks to the Japanese "voluntary" trade restriction, everything had extra options, if not hard loaded. The restriction limited how many vehicles were shipped, not what they retailed at. So Japanese automakers naturally raised the "price" (or stakes) without raising MSRP. What the dealers charged (gouged) was a different story.Realistically, the Maxima was going up against entry luxury sedans (except Cimarron lol), especially Euro/German, same as the Cressida. It definitely worked in Japanese automaker's favor, not to mention inspiring Lexus, Acura and Infiniti.
Ronnie Schreiber Hydrocarbon based fuels have become unreliable? More expensive at the moment but I haven't seen any lines gathering around gas stations lately, have you? I'm old enough to remember actual gasoline shortages in 1973 and 1979 (of course, since then there have been many recoverable oil deposits discovered around the world plus the introduction of fracking). Consumers Power is still supplying me with natural gas. I recently went camping and had no problem buying propane.Texas had grid problems last winter because they replaced fossil fueled power plants with wind and solar, which didn't work in the cold weather. That's the definition of unreliable.I'm an "all of the above" guy when it comes to energy: fossil fuels, hydro, wind (where it makes sense), nuclear (including funding for fusion research), and possibly solar.Environmental activists, it seems to me, have no interest in energy diversity. Based on what's happened in Sri Lanka and the push against agriculture in Europe and Canada, I think it's safe to say that some folks want most of us to live like medieval peasants to save the planet for their own private jets.
Car65688392 thankyou for the information
Car65688392 Thankyou for your valuable information
MaintenanceCosts There's no mystery anymore about how the Japanese took over the prestige spot in the US mass market (especially on the west coast) when you realize that this thing was up against the likes of the Fairmont, Citation, and Volaré. A massacre.