By on June 1, 2009

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  • avatar
    ttacfan

    Closing Parma engine plant on the west side of Cleveland should even out the despair from closing Chrysler Twinsburg body plant on the east side.

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    motron

    It looks like Senator Corker’s lobbying on behalf of Spring Hill may have led it to being place in standby rather than closed.

    But, OMG!!! All the closures are in states that voted for Obama. This is obviously a anti-Democratic conspiracy of some sort (ala the great dealer-closure conspiracy).

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    “As GM strengthens its after-sales business, we’re aggressively pursuing strategies that allow us to continue fast parts delivery to our dealers and distributors, and improve our warehouse capacity utilization,” said Kevin W. Williams, GMNA Vice President and General Manager, Service and Parts Operations.” And then he closed three parts distribution centers.

  • avatar
    KixStart

    I smell a rat. Most of these closures are in blue states! Is the PTFOA out to destroy the Democratic Party?

  • avatar
    holydonut

    Re Bertel:

    Well, the quote does say that the only thing that will improve is warehouse capacity utilization.

    Come on man, you know how the spin works :)

  • avatar
    jpcavanaugh

    I had understood that the closure of Indianapolis stamping had been announced quite some time ago. So this particular plant closing is not news. I wonder if this is the case with any of the others?

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    Of the 17 facilities to be closed or mothballed, 7 of them are in Michigan. Another 3 are in Ohio. Will the “stimulus” and budget spending by Washington make any jobs to replace the ones that were lost.

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    NickR

    What exactly does standby capacity mean?

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    faygo

    @NickR

    “standby capacity” means they’ll cease production, but might either re-open with current products if demand warrants (yeah right) or re-fit the plant to build something, someday. the only something with any chance is the Viva, which replaces the Aveo & will be built in the US rather than in S. Korea or China where it might have actually had a chance to not lose too much money for GM.

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    psarhjinian

    Of the 17 facilities to be closed or mothballed, 7 of them are in Michigan. Another 3 are in Ohio. Will the “stimulus” and budget spending by Washington make any jobs to replace the ones that were lost.

    The whinging about Obama being beholden to Michigan and/or the UAW rings a little hollow, doesn’t it?

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    Lichtronamo

    Spring Hill is being put on Stand By because GM just finished investing in it to make it a flexible manufacturing facility. Meaning they can switch from the Traverse to the new B-segment car easily.

    Looks like the Solstice, Sky and Opel GT are going out of production in July. How many Solstice coupes will have been made?

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    menno

    It’s smart to keep some plants in reserve.

    First smart thing I’ve seen them decide to do.

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    jkross22

    The whinging about Obama being beholden to Michigan and/or the UAW rings a little hollow, doesn’t it?

    This is a stunning comment considering the billions that have been pissed away trying to “save jobs”.

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    mocktard

    +1 jkross22

    The fact that these plants are in such core “blue states” only underlines the $100 billion used to prop them up.

  • avatar
    moedaman

    jkross22 :
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    This is a stunning comment considering the billions that have been pissed away trying to “save jobs”.

    It’s becoming more apparent that this isn’t about saving jobs. It’s about keeping VEBA, the UAW leadership’s version of the Teamster’s Pension Fund, solvent.

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    John Horner

    GM has said that one of the closed plants will reopen at some point to make compact cars. I guess that means Spring Hill and Orion are going to duke it out for that work.

  • avatar
    Luther

    Get those Solstice Sky GT while you can!
    Little kill-joy Obama is cutting you off!

    Interesting that GM is moving Malibu production out of Michigan.

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    psarhjinian

    This is a stunning comment considering the billions that have been pissed away trying to “save jobs”.

    That was kind of the point. Not a day goes by when someone doesn’t post a comment about how Obama is in league with the UAW and won’t let them lose an inch.

    And here we have plant closings galore—in swing states too, explicit support for offshoring and requirements for GM to right-size, all from the Feds and none of which are things the UAW wants. So how, again, is Obama et al in league with the UAW?

    Answer: the’re not. What the government is doing is an orderly spin-down. Yes, it costs a lot, but that’s the price of stability. I would have preferred they’d taken an active stake in GM months ago; more libertarian posters would prefer they be left to die. The government, despite partisan bitching, is walking the middle ground.

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    LenS

    First, the Saturn plant isn’t in an Obama state. But more importantly, since Obama won in states like Florida, Va, NC and Indiana, there probably isn’t that many GM plants left in states he didn’t win.

    The simplest thing to do would be to close it all down and just give the UAW a $100 billion to fund it’s pensions and health plans. But politically that would be a tough sell. And doing so would take away the UAW’s total dependency now on doing whatever the President and Democratic Congress wants. This way they can keep UAW members working for them in many elections to come. Call it the Chicago Way — do what I say or else.

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    jkross22

    The government, despite partisan bitching, is walking the middle ground.

    By pissing away taxpayer dollars regardless of party affiliation (or lack thereof). The odds are GM will not succeed even though WE THE TAXPAYERS are forgiving billions of dollars in loans.

    For what it’s worth, I’m just as concerned about Republican and Independent tax dollars as I am with Democratic tax dollars. I

    What the government is doing is an orderly spin-down. Yes, it costs a lot, but that’s the price of stability.

    By the time this is all over, the taxpayer will have likely paid considerably more to save (or as you say, spin-down) GM than the value of its assets. This is money that could have been used to help the stronger players, retrain displaced workers and still have plenty left over from the billions Obama is spending on this endeavor.

    What a waste.

  • avatar
    BDB

    Damn, my mother’s side of my family is from Wilmington Del.

    I guess I’ll trade in the old Miata for a Solstice to get one of the last cars made in Delaware.

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    The whinging about Obama being beholden to Michigan and/or the UAW rings a little hollow, doesn’t it?

    Not really. Any closure of GM plants would necessarily impact the UAW. The UAW’s interests have been seen to by giving their VEBA a big chunk of the new GM’s equity.

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    The government, despite partisan bitching, is walking the middle ground.

    Spoken like a true partisan whose party is in power of the government.

    I’m still waiting for an exit strategy that explains how the government will divest itself of GM stock, should the company actually survive and be profitable.

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    gmfoundry

    A lot of the people out there don’t realize that the UAW wages is a industry standard to what ALL wages is based upon. Everything from McDonald’s to construction bridge builders, Alaskan pipe welders, and everything that helps build this country. If Americans and i mean true Americans would only buy American products then we would all have jobs. As long as people only want to get the cheapest price on everything then that’s what they will get in the long run a very cheap living. If you are hungry eat your import!

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    psarhjinian

    The UAW’s interests have been seen to by giving their VEBA a big chunk of the new GM’s equity.

    You mean the big fat chunk of nothing? Yeah, sure, that’s really helping the UAW. They get effectively worthless equity and no power whatsoever. Were the VEBA contribution actually worth something we wouldn’t be looking down the tubes at pension/healthcare coverage issues. But we are because the equity share is worthless.

    The UAW is getting effectively nothing. Their membership shrinks and their VEBA remains functionally unfunded. If Obama was really in it for the UAW, they’d be ensuring employment and blocking offshoring.

    Spoken like a true partisan whose party is in power of the government.

    Believe it or not, this is the middle road, you’re just so far from centre that it looks like radical leftism. The libertarian tack would have been letting the whole thing collapse in a firestorm in hopes that the market would correct (eventually, perhaps after a decade of misery); the leftist take would have been outright purchase of GM and Chrysler, turning it into the American Renault, which may or may not work either.

    American right-wingers are so lacking in perspective that they don’t seem to understand that what an actual leftist government would do. It would be an outright nationalization with explicit, direct control, not a wishy-washy bail-out. Think about what France did with Renault and you’ll get the idea. For the record, that’s what I would have like to see happen, and it’s definitely not happening here.

    What the Obama administration is doing is not even close to being that radical: they’re simply floating GM through bankruptcy and out the other side. The US hasn’t the stomach for a real command economy.

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    gss

    Oh, how the tables will turn. I hate to admit this because I never believed it. The UAW has been warning big business for the last 20+ years of shipping jobs out of the country. Well, I regret to say that they were right. “The bottom has fallen out of the bucket”. The next thing to happen will be the states that have been slated as having a GM facility closing will await the after-shock. The after-shock will do more damage than the actual quake. So for everyone smiling and thinking GM/UAW derserves what their getting, hold onto your socks if you live in one of the states that have closures slated. The only state that can possibly endure it is Michigan, because America/Americans turned their backs on them a long time ago. For the folks who live in the south and think they’re in good shape because they have transplants,, well your fore fathers all moved north for good paying jobs in the early days when Michigan was booming and the thought then was to get a job that paid above average wages to have a chance of a better life for their families. For some reason the attitude is that Americans don’t want to aspire into higher paying jobs they just want everyone at the same level. I still haven’t figured out why people secretly want to see people who make more money than they do, lose their job. This after shock is gonna be big and folks who make say 2/3 of what a auto worker makes,, well I’m sorry to say that your wage and job will be in trouble very soon. Whether we like it or not we are like the food chain, when the larger game is all killed off, the hunter is forced to go after smaller and smaller game. All the American jobs are linked together in one way or another. God Bless our children.

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