Rare Rides: The Unfortunate 1998 Infiniti Q45

Corey Lewis
by Corey Lewis

We’ve spilled a lot of digital ink on Infiniti lately, primarily due to the grim announcement that the brand will become “Nissan-plus” in the coming years. While the brand produced a few bright spots like the G35 and FX over its 30-year history, most of its products were duds.

That got me thinking about one such dud product, and one that happened to appear for sale right as I was pondering. It’s the 1998 Q45, a disappointing flagship.

Infiniti launched its flagship Q45 at the same time as Lexus’ LS 400. But where Lexus spent years copying Mercedes-Benz ideas and creating a car designed to appeal specifically to the North American consumer, Infiniti took a different tack. It spent much, much less money, presenting a short-wheelbase version of its new Japanese market flagship, the President. The unconventional nature of the first-gen Q45 and its accompanying abstract marketing campaign didn’t go over well with American consumers. We won’t go into the first Q45 too far today, because it’s worth its own Rare Rides entry.

The President, as a traditional Japanese luxury sedan, enjoyed a very long model life. It remained in its basic 1990 guise until 2002, so in the mid-Nineties, when it was time for a new Q45, Infiniti had to reach lower. When the second-generation debuted in 1997, Infiniti clearly exercised much more caution, but still hadn’t spent a lot of money on its most expensive car.

The basis of the new ride was in Nissan’s Cedric/Gloria platform. Using the cheaper executive class car (instead of full-size), Nissan created a new sedan in Japan called the Cima, which was again very lightly reworked for North American duty as Q45. The car’s initial nomenclature reflected the large 4.5-liter V8 under hood. But naming remained unchanged for the second generation, even though displacement shrunk to 4.1 liters. Horsepower dropped from 276 to 266; 60 miles per hour arrived in 7.5 seconds.

All the expected luxury car trappings were present this time: copious ruched leather, wood trim, and a Bose sound system. A single CD was offered as standard, and optionally a multi-disc changer was installed in the trunk. Heated seats were also an optional extra. Focused on comfort (just like Lexus), Infiniti ditched the previous front multi-link suspension for struts, then made everything as soft as possible. Auto journos of the era took no pleasure in this Buick-like Q45, which disappointed after the taut, sporty-handling original Q45. But Infiniti stuck with its choice.

Changes over the years were mostly limited to a 1999 refresh. Changes included HiD lamps up front and smaller brake lamps at the back, which somehow made it look older than before. Optional throughout was a “t” sporty trim that added a spoiler and an optional adjustable suspension (standard on t from 1999).

The second-generation Q45 persisted through 2001, replaced by a new President-based Q45 in 2002. You’ll remember that one because it looked just like a large Altima. Perhaps a better description might be Nissan-plus?

Today’s 1998 Q45 is in spectacular condition in black and tan. With 57,000 miles, it’s about as new as they come and asks $8,950 on eBay.

[Images: seller]

Corey Lewis
Corey Lewis

Interested in lots of cars and their various historical contexts. Started writing articles for TTAC in late 2016, when my first posts were QOTDs. From there I started a few new series like Rare Rides, Buy/Drive/Burn, Abandoned History, and most recently Rare Rides Icons. Operating from a home base in Cincinnati, Ohio, a relative auto journalist dead zone. Many of my articles are prompted by something I'll see on social media that sparks my interest and causes me to research. Finding articles and information from the early days of the internet and beyond that covers the little details lost to time: trim packages, color and wheel choices, interior fabrics. Beyond those, I'm fascinated by automotive industry experiments, both failures and successes. Lately I've taken an interest in AI, and generating "what if" type images for car models long dead. Reincarnating a modern Toyota Paseo, Lincoln Mark IX, or Isuzu Trooper through a text prompt is fun. Fun to post them on Twitter too, and watch people overreact. To that end, the social media I use most is Twitter, @CoreyLewis86. I also contribute pieces for Forbes Wheels and Forbes Home.

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  • Bd2 Bd2 on Jun 07, 2020

    While much has been made of the current state of Infiniti (much less Nissan), things were already bad for Infiniti/Nissan sedans when Nissan let Mitsu sell the Fuga and Cima, but rebadged as the Mitsu Proudia and Dignity in Japan from 2012-16.

  • Ksilvers Ksilvers on May 12, 2022

    I think Infiniti gets a lot of unfair criticism. I've always felt they made engaging cars that were a good value. I've always preferred them over other Japanese luxury marquees like Acura or Lexus. I have a G35 currently and it is a really awesome car despite being 15 years old. I've owned quite a few cars and I'm really surprised by how much I like the Infiniti. For it's age it is very reliable and basically doesn't really require anything ever beyond basic maintenance whereas German cars are constantly falling apart unless they are newer. Lexus is boring, Acura is meh. Infiniti is where it's at but the future looks uncertain and it seems unlikely they can recreate the 'magic' of the G35 era.

  • El scotto No rag-top, no rag-top(s) = not a prestigious car brand. Think it through. All of the high-end Germans and Lexus have rag-tops. Corvette is really its own brand.World-leading engines. AMG, M, S and well Lexus is third-world tough. GM makes one of the best V-8s in the world in Bowling Green. But nooooo, noooo, we're GM only Corvettes get Corvette engines. Balderdash! I say. Put Corvette engines in the top-tier Cadillacs. I know GM could make a world-class 3.5 liter V-6 but they don't or won't. In the interior everything that gets touched, including your butt, has to feel good. No exceptions.Some think that those who pay above MSRP and brag about it are idiots. Go the opposite direction, and offer an extended 10-year 100,000-mile factory warranty. At a reasonable price. That's Acura's current business model.
  • Carrera 2014 Toyota Corolla with 192,000 miles bought new. Oil changes every 5,000 miles, 1 coolant flush, and a bunch of air filters and in cabin air filters, and wipers. On my 4th set of tires.Original brake pads ( manual transmission), original spark plugs. Nothing else...it's a Toyota. Did most of oil changes either free at Toyota or myself. Also 3 batteries.2022 Acura TLX A-Spec AWD 13,000 miles now but bought new.Two oil changes...2006 Hyundai Elantra gifted from a colleague with 318,000 when I got it, and 335,000 now. It needed some TLC. A set of cheap Chinese tires ($275), AC compressor, evaporator, expansion valve package ( $290) , two TYC headlights $120, one battery ( $95), two oil changes, air filters, Denso alternator ( $185), coolant, and labor for AC job ( $200).
  • Mike-NB2 This is a mostly uninformed vote, but I'll go with the Mazda 3 too.I haven't driven a new Civic, so I can't say anything about it, but two weeks ago I had a 2023 Corolla as a rental. While I can understand why so many people buy these, I was surprised at how bad the CVT is. Many rentals I've driven have a CVT and while I know it has one and can tell, they aren't usually too bad. I'd never own a car with a CVT, but I can live with one as a rental. But the Corolla's CVT was terrible. It was like it screamed "CVT!" the whole time. On the highway with cruise control on, I could feel it adjusting to track the set speed. Passing on the highway (two-lane) was risky. The engine isn't under-powered, but the CVT makes it seem that way.A minor complaint is about the steering. It's waaaay over-assisted. At low speeds, it's like a 70s LTD with one-finger effort. Maybe that's deliberate though, given the Corolla's demographic.
  • Mike-NB2 2019 Ranger - 30,000 miles / 50,000 km. Nothing but oil changes. Original tires are being replaced a week from Wednesday. (Not all that mileage is on the original A/S tires. I put dedicated winter rims/tires on it every winter.)2024 - Golf R - 1700 miles / 2800 km. Not really broken in yet. Nothing but gas in the tank.
  • SaulTigh I've got a 2014 F150 with 87K on the clock and have spent exactly $4,180.77 in maintenance and repairs in that time. That's pretty hard to beat.Hard to say on my 2019 Mercedes, because I prepaid for three years of service (B,A,B) and am getting the last of those at the end of the month. Did just drop $1,700 on new Michelins for it at Tire Rack. Tires for the F150 late last year were under $700, so I'd say the Benz is roughly 2 to 3 times as pricy for anything over the Ford.I have the F150 serviced at a large independent shop, the Benz at the dealership.
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